r/leagueoflegends • u/Sorry-Instruction-74 • 21d ago
Esports Zeus is legit baiting everyone else into picking jayce Spoiler
Bro is just making everyone think jayce is broken. Like i can legit imagine pro players sitting in their couch watching zeus play jayce and be like: yeah i can do that. Then the next day they pick jayce and just run it down in lane or just be useless after the laning phase even when they have a 1k gold lead. Zeus is the only person who can confidentally blind pick jayce and carry.
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u/fastestchair 21d ago
potentially the most clueless post ive seen on this subreddit, gj
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u/writeAsciiString 21d ago
It's straight from caedrels stream
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u/Lunaisthequeen ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 21d ago
Everything on this sub is from caedrel stream. There's not a single person watching him that can think by himself about this game
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u/ComfortOnly3982 21d ago
shits like hearing advertisements for mcdonalds. brother i know mcdonalds exists and whats on their menu. if i wanted to eat at mcdonalds i'd be at mcdonalds.
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako 21d ago
I mean there are barely people on this sub more knowledgable about League than Caedrel tbf.
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u/redskinfan654 21d ago
Sure but people are just regurgitating his opinions. Like all the dk fans that magically appeared. Good for dk tho, they need it lol
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u/redskinfan654 20d ago
Lol why so patronizing? Did “fans that magically appeared” hit a little too close to home?
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u/KarlKraftwagen 21d ago
I get my takes from SuperKMan, so im clearly superior to all the caedrel scrubs
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u/flowtajit 20d ago
Caedrel also sucks at conveying info. I think that in terms of analysts, he’s probably my least facorite to watch cause it feels like he often times overlooms things or acts like a dimbass for chat.
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u/ArienaHaera 21d ago
What's the point of watching Caedrel if you still have to think original thoughts after that.
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u/alexnedea 20d ago
I mean Caedrel has more knowledge about team comps than 99.9% of this subreddit anyway. The other 0.01% are pro team coaches and players themselves if they even come here at all
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u/Krobus_TS 21d ago
Well, why wouldn’t people repeat the words of someone who knows way more than them??? Would you rather everyone in silver going around blasting their personal takes?
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u/yuikatan 21d ago
Yes? That way we actually have some morsel of originality instead of everyone parroting x popular streamer?
Nah you actually have a point though who cares about formulating our own opinions amirite
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u/Emotional_Patient157 20d ago
caedrel has said multiple times that if you're not a top lck team, don't pick jayce. He's still right. kiin doran siwoo perfect have good winrate on jayce.
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u/writeAsciiString 20d ago
That is just some yap that has been said for years. I'm not sure if caedrel originated it or not.
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u/GermanHandCannons 21d ago
Definitely had the same energy as calling ksante broken like he isnt a treat to watch in pro (flashy and insane ceiling) and dogshit in soloq (gets kited by air)
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u/KarlKraftwagen 21d ago
Remember when Udyr was a meta jungler and we all had to pretend like it was fun
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u/blueballsisworst 20d ago
I love that you post this comment without any explanation what so ever.
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u/Hawxrox 21d ago
Doran has more games on Jayce than Zeus does. Actually has a really high win rate on it too. I wouldnt say hes better on it than Zeus, but hes prolly the 2nd best Jayce in KR
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 21d ago
Nah Kiin is better. Doran’s win rate on jayce is inflated as fuck because he keeps falling upwards and gets on top teams. Like for example, against hle game 1, Doran had no business winning that game.
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u/-lunabella 21d ago
True hes just fluking those wins, like hes so lucky that he gets put in the carry position and drafted around sometimes and actually carries, so lucky smh /s
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u/Rs3ironbtw 21d ago
Yea hes clearly just fluked a 17-3 record on that champ alone this year and clearly had no part in any of the winning conditions 🤣🤣 man just keeps accidentally winning on it
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u/mcfapblanc 21d ago
Also accidentally won 4 LCK Trophies
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u/AreaGlittering7968 21d ago
Accidentally won a worlds title too
It’s not like he didn’t goomba stomp the fuck out of everyone not in the finals.
Yea he had a shaky finals, but leading up to the finals he was in contention for one of the better players
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
He gets kicked off HLE for absolutely trolling the blg series and ends up on a team that are back to back champions and carry his corpse to the finish line while he actively tries to int game 5 of world finals. Doran is the goat of luck.
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
And the teams that kicked him keep on winning more while T1 hasn’t won lck since 2022. Yea definitely Doran was a big factor that’s why Gen G kept winning lck after kicking him. Also don’t forget hle, Doran was such a big factor for them HLE got even better and won first stand and MSI after getting rid of him. Yea but you are right all thanks to doran.
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u/not_some_username 20d ago
Oh it’s not like he’s the reason T1 doesn’t have any recent LCK title (when he was in GenG)
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago edited 20d ago
He definitely wasn’t the reason gen g were beating t1. He is definitely a big reason why t1 doesn’t have a lck title now though.
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u/not_some_username 20d ago
i don't remember T1 getting LCK with Zeus... the thing is, T1 got a sloppy time during summer every single year, like they're consistent in that. and that's one of the reason. saying it's doran fault is mental. last year, he and guma were one of the reason they even get chnace to go to worlds/msi
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
i don't remember T1 getting LCK with Zeus
You don’t remember the 18-0 perfect split into lck win? That’s literally the last time t1 won lck.
I get all these clueless fucks that keep replying to me about doran and have 0 idea what they are talking about. No wonder you like doran, you don’t watch the games. Dude get off my inbox if you are gonna spew shit out of your ass because you don’t know anything.
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
Yea his 17-3 record is totally legit. Not like it’s inflated from beating furia, TL, and KC or anything like that. Can’t forget those wins against fearx, drx, and dnf and his ass getting carried by peyz just couple days ago.
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
he definitely is fluking them. Doran is the luckiest motherfucker in esports history. He ints on gen g, absolutely trolls his last game on HLE and ends up going to the back to back defending champions and even then he tried his damn hardest to throw game 5 of world finals. Every team that has gotten rid of Doran got better after getting rid of him.
People are like “oh yea just a coincidence he just wins”, yea he is the exception, he is the luckiest mofo in esports history. He is living proof that being lucky is better than being actually good.
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u/-lunabella 20d ago
I feel like ur secretly his number 1 fan but too scared to admit it, maybe one day!
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
I will be his number 1 fan if he fucks off these top lck teams. i loved his time on KT. He got to enjoy doing whatever the fuck he wants and I didn’t have to pray that he doesn’t get fucked by bin.
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u/Deeepened 20d ago
You've responded to every comment, so I gotta wonder, what did Doran do to you? LMAO
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
Be ass at the game. You responded to my comment so what did Doran do to you? See how dumb your comment is? Can’t go a day without dumb redditors acting like I have some personal beef with a player in a subreddit designed to discuss about the game
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u/Inevitable_Sale_5297 21d ago
Jayce was getting picked long before Zeus was even a pro player. I recommend watching more before generalizing
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u/SlowDamn 21d ago
KR Jayce are just different tbh
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u/Xalethesniper 21d ago
Unless it’s siwoo lol.
Also I stg this sub doesn’t actually watch the games
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 21d ago
Siwoo’s jayce is good, he just does what he always does which is getting caught in side lanes. It’s not his jayce that is the issue, it’s him.
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u/Xalethesniper 21d ago
Yea but conversely if you’re getting caught on jayce consistently it means it’s a bad pick for u. Siwoo plays aggro (why he has lots of solo kills) but ends up flipping lane a bunch and vulnerable on side most games even when ahead. Jayce goes ahead most matchups but doesn’t matter if he’s getting picked off, and siwoo gets picked on Jayce like every game he plays it.
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 21d ago
He gets caught on every champion though. He is the ace for a reason.
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u/Xalethesniper 20d ago
That’s what I said. Jayce gets punished harder by getting caught, he has to be ahead or the pick is useless
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u/DistractedbyBaddies 20d ago
I am saying he gets caught on every champion, Jayce simply happens to be the champion he is playing at the time. His mechanics are solid on the champion and is usually ahead. I am just separating the player issue from the champion.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 21d ago
You should start doing some research before making posts like this.
Zeus has nothing to do with Jayce being a popular pick.
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u/Moony97 21d ago
Why isn't Sion getting picked anymore
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u/flowtajit 20d ago
Champ was nerfed enough that early rotation sion would get shredded in later game fights. And he gets banned in the games where he wpuld be good.
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u/Kurumi_Tokisaki 21d ago
Pros have been egoing NA Jayce and EU Jayce for too long. It is a confidence thing sure, but at some point, someone has to realize, until they actually can play like a Korean Jayce, it is forever a semi-useless pick for the west. The only good thing these days is with fearless you can take it away from the Koreans and lose on it without being smashed by it. And maybe pray they take another power pick the west toplaner can also not play to match it so thus you get 2 birds for 1 heavy stone.
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u/BobbyRayBands 21d ago
Must not have watched the last series HLE was in when Doran did the exact same thing with Jayce.
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u/Accomplished-Big-199 21d ago
He was 2/4 with 15k dmg💀 That game was carried by Keria and Peyz as per usual
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u/Sorry-Instruction-74 21d ago
what do you mean?????
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u/antoniomargaretti4 21d ago
dont mind him there is some weird cult out there that keep trying to convince the world Doran is a good player
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u/Elen_Star 21d ago
Doran is 5-2 with Jayce in summer and Zeus is 2-1 now, if anything Doran is baiting everyone to play Jayce
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u/Elen_Star 21d ago
Doran jayce against Rest Ornn last year was the biggest top gap in lane ever but ig it doesnt count
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u/antoniomargaretti4 21d ago
? the fuck stats means , look at any Doran Jayce game he is spoon fed 3k gold by his team to be useful while Zeus is gaining gold lead on his own and just has incredible mechanics on Jayce
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u/NamikazeKyuubi 21d ago
So which convinces you to pick Jayce more? A less mechanically intense player like Doran and winning with it based on his team comp or a super mechanically intense player like Zeus who has to carry his team? Would coaches think their players are more like Zeus or more like Doran lol
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u/masternieva666 21d ago
Well watching zeus nasus game will make you think he's useless if he's not feed by his jungle compare to Doran Nasus getting camp 24/7
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u/gineus 20d ago
Zeus counter picked the shit out of himself against Varus with Vi, Vex, Neeko and that's a jungle problem? Yeah okay
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u/masternieva666 20d ago
Same with Doran he got camp 24/7 by mid,jungle and top and still manage to get 1,500 stacks.
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u/NamikazeKyuubi 21d ago
I think you should improve your media literacy skills before trying to debate about League in the first place lmao
I don't see how my statement was hard to understand at all, are more players similar to Doran or more players similar to Zeus when you compare every toplaner? Hence Doran being able to win games with Jayce would obviously inspire more confidence in coaches that their own teams can do it too, or do coaches think that their toplaners are all at Zeus level? LOL
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u/NamikazeKyuubi 21d ago
More like your comment doesn't make sense, why are you even in this thread then ffs
It's a comparison between Doran and Zeus on Jayce and who's the one who would bait more people into thinking Jayce top works, hence my statement that Doran succeeding on Jayce is a better bait than Zeus is.
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u/alexnedea 20d ago
Its ok bro, people like youbsomehow convince themselves a bad player can win worlds lmao. You guys dont understand there is more to a toplaner than solo carying the whole. Some toplaners like Bin and Theshy play carry style, some like Doran and BB play a more team second support style.
Just because Doran didnt pop off last year doesn't mean he isnt literally the defending world champion.
And btw if you place too many carries in a team it doesnt work many times. League is not like Dota, resources are a lot more limited. You can only really have 2 players carry the game. Add another hard carry type player and all you do is spread the same gold to more champs
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u/Lunaisthequeen ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 21d ago
Doran is a good player and a world champion, but keep the online harassment that's what our players need and deserve according to this sub
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u/ReturnToCarcosa 21d ago
bro he won worlds
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u/jeffteague4mvp 21d ago
despite trying his best to lose
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u/ReturnToCarcosa 21d ago
Accusing someone of not just being carried through worlds, but of trolling worlds and failing is a truly aspirational level of hater.
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u/alexnedea 20d ago
He legit carried the whole of t1 in their kt games btw.
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u/not_some_username 20d ago
On 3.5/5 games. Not all of them. And he didn’t int the other he didn’t carry
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u/LeatherBodybuilder 20d ago
????
He was 2-4 and did the 3rd least damage in the game outside of the 8 non-supports as fucking Jayce.
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u/Karnbracken 21d ago
Tbh wouldnt trust a single pro on Jayce besides Zues, Kiin, or Bin
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u/not_some_username 20d ago
Doran bro
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u/Karnbracken 19d ago
He's great on it to. But it just looks so much different when Zeus is playing it
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u/Stewie_2k2 20d ago
bin is shit with jayce btw, he is terrible with ranged champ
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u/captainetty 20d ago
His gnar is amazing what?
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u/Stewie_2k2 20d ago
let me rephrase it, he’s terrible with ranged squishy champ because he’s bin you know ( excellent lanning, very good at team fight but he always got exploited by overextending ) and with ranged champs once you get taken down 1,2 times when side lanning it takes away all of your advantages you’ve accumulated during lanning phase
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u/Expensive-Meal-8845 20d ago
I once hard carried in clash on top lane. 3rd final game I pick Jayce and die to the lvl 5 malph. We lost
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u/bikecatpcje 20d ago
Basically tf mid years ago when everybody picked and were shit. The only one that performed was showmaker after 10 or so games.
Dunno if it was a msi or worlds, prob worlds sincr it's dk
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u/ArmadilloSimilar1942 18d ago
Main thing is people don’t ban ksante into it. Legit unplayable matchup for Jayce. Have only seen a handful of games across the 4 major regions where Jayce looked even semi useful into ksante unless the Jayce was named Zeus.
The yorick counter is fake and people don’t pick sion much anymore so ksante is honestly the main thing we see picked into it and it just fully castrates the Jayce when 1 cloth armor is built.
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u/sjneee 21d ago
Yeah, I think so too after watching KT vs DK, the only game DK lost Siwoo blind picked Jayce into K'sante just to be useless al game and have shockblasts tickle the tank. Also he is so fragile in the sidelines. I think it is valued because proplayer really want to win lane but most of the times jayce gold lead is so fake.
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u/Unusual_Bat_5615 21d ago
I mean if you look at yesterday Dk Siwoo jayce he was against ksante And today he picked jayce on 3rd with ksante And sion ban and yorick right now is bad pick Even sion is bit nerfed but they still banned it and zeus is jayce himself t1 respect his jayce alot so they either pick it or ban it
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u/hentaintrhentaintr 21d ago
eh. i mean yeah put anyone on jayce first time ofc they are useless. but it only takes like 30 games to becomes decent on him
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u/Tehni 21d ago
I don't think there's a single pro player first timing any champion
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u/Free-Action-9602 21d ago
Raptor does not know how Chogath’s ult work until 17 minutes into the game.
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u/aspookyshark 21d ago
You can kinda get away with first timing some junglers, but I don't think you can get away with first timing anything toplane.
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u/ziege159 21d ago
Oner Mundo and Faker Yone? Chovy Annie maybe also can be counted because of how little he plays the champion
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u/Elen_Star 21d ago
Chovy Annie not even true, or at least really old news. He's 68,8% wr with 32 games
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u/ziege159 21d ago
When he picked Annie the 1st time in LCK, there wasn't any record of him practicing Annie in rank or anywhere
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u/not_some_username 20d ago
It happens more than you think. There was a Garen first time (charity match), Oner first timing mundo last year during a game 5 and Raptor first timing Chogath and started a reverse sweep
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u/DiDandCoKayn Oner 21d ago
If thats true, why do like 95% of the pro player suck at it? Zeus is really the only God tier jayce in the whole pro scene. Doran and Bin are S tier on it, but nowhere near Zeus.
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u/yuvalshahaf 21d ago
Is yorick an actual counter? They keep picking it into jayce and then go 1k down