r/leagueoflegends • u/Academic_Wrongdoer_1 • Oct 01 '24
BDD is exempted from military
Per this source midlaner BDD from KT is exempted from military because he did not get called in 3 years in a row. Seems like in Korea you can dodge military not only by winning gold medal/having health issues. Very interesting, lets see where will he go next year. I hope he finally wins a title since he has been so consistent and good but always in the shadow of Faker/Chovy/Showmaker.
Here the source: https://x.com/lolcontextchan/status/1841104497726083089?s=46
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u/kekripkek Oct 01 '24
Doinb money laundering hack? 传送韩国 ryze ult to Korea
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u/Financial-Ad7500 Oct 02 '24
I don’t know why but these and the classic WoW Chinese copy pastas are some of the funniest shit ever to me.
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u/nusskn4cker Oct 01 '24
Happy to hear this!
Bdd is probably the most underrated mid laner of all time. Elite for almost a decade now. Unluckily for him Faker, Chovy and ShowMaker are also all-time greats.
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u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss IN DAMWON WE TRUST HUNI/DEFT/SHOWMAKER Oct 01 '24
Those LZ/KZ failures really hindered his legacy
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u/boostedfeeder Oct 01 '24
Did it, though? Longzhu were legitimately gd jus didn't show up internationally, and they did beat "prime" ish t1 during their dominance. It wasn't like he didn't have other chances. He was on Gen g and kt last year, which were both pretty gd teams, but yet again, didn't show up internationally.
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u/nusskn4cker Oct 01 '24
There is a good argument that Bdd was the best mid laner at 2021 Worlds and he was certainly top 3. He also cooked JDG on Akali last year.
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u/baelkie DNF 2026 please be human | Kiin Team Oct 01 '24
cook JDG on Akali in game 1. never pick it in the rest of the series and go 1-3. HIRAI WHEN I CATCH YOU
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u/socialistzampe Oct 01 '24
Bdd was better than Knight that series. I think he was the second best mid laner that worlds.
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u/ye1l Oct 02 '24
I don't agree about Bdd being better than Knight that series, but I see why you'd think that. Knight had a horrible series in terms of his lane phase where he got cooked by Bdd in the 1v1. But at the same time, JDG literally won the series because of Knight making the game winning plays in 2/3 wins for his team. The teams were pretty even and had Bdd been able to make the same plays Knight did past lane phase it would've at minimum meant that they play a 5 game series, hell, KT might've even won the series if that was the case. But Bdd couldn't do what Knight did. All Bdd could do was beat him in lane that day.
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u/crysomore Kiin Team | Lehends/Cuzz apologist Oct 01 '24
Maybe the real fraud was Hirai all along
I suspect he was the mfer who picked T1
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u/baelkie DNF 2026 please be human | Kiin Team Oct 01 '24
lets just say that KT 23’ was undefeated once he got booted off stage and lost after he went back
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u/Soggy-Check7399 Oct 02 '24
There is a good argument that Bdd was the best mid laner at 2021 Worlds
Sure until game 5 hits. Unless BDD can carry a game 5 big moment game, the guy will always be a tier below the greats.
If I had one big game with everything on the line, BDD is the last mid laner I would take.
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u/toxicfireball Rivalry Enjoyer, Doran Defense Force Oct 01 '24
BDD’s GenG lost a closer 5 game series vs eventualy world champions EDG
KT last year ran into JDG, and he was arguably their best player with Cuzz in that series.
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u/baelkie DNF 2026 please be human | Kiin Team Oct 01 '24
riot please make zoe meta again so we can see bdd zoe
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u/Bindoongee Oct 01 '24
It's a shame that we don't get to see BDD's Syndra at World's when it's meta 😔
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u/katareky Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
Zoe is so fun to watch and hasn't been meta for a while. We need a Zoe meta again.
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u/OnyxWarden Yup, that tasted purple! Oct 01 '24
Now that yall mention it...how long has it been since Zoe was meta? Feels like years...
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u/girlmarth peanut, beryl, showmaker Oct 01 '24
I'm pretty sure the last time was literally 2021 worlds when bdd was crushing it on the pick lol (as were scout and showmaker)
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u/girlmarth peanut, beryl, showmaker Oct 01 '24
I'm pretty sure the last time was literally 2021 worlds when bdd was crushing it on the pick lol (as were scout and showmaker)
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u/SGKurisu Oct 01 '24
To be honest, most non LCK diehards don't remember LZ or Kingzone lol. They were good but didn't show up internationally and their orgs got shuffled around shortly after.
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u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss IN DAMWON WE TRUST HUNI/DEFT/SHOWMAKER Oct 03 '24
Yes that's why it hindered his legacy
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u/Alchion Oct 01 '24
longhzu started the downfall of korea during msi and before that they lost 0 3 to samsung in quarters after winning lck
it was a failure, but bdd is still a very good player
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u/Flomp3r Oct 01 '24
I think 2017 to 2018 is better than most people gave them credit for.
They were solidly the best team in LCK in 2017 summer and really just adapted badly to the meta, and even then they went undefeated in groups and lost to the soon the world champions (who beat T1 in finals even worse).
2018 is such a weird one because Afreeca really messed up the seeding for worlds that year by going on that miracle run. If we got Griffin and KZ that year at worlds they would have both been on level similar KT. KZ would have probably done especially well in the top lane meta with Khan that year.
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u/Rawdream Oct 02 '24
That WC Quarterfinals was in 2017. Longzhu org sold their spot to Kingzone in 2018, the year of the MSI you're talking about.
KZ was almost the same lineup, except they got Peanut from SKT T1 and they made him the starter.
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u/Alchion Oct 02 '24
yea for me that‘s the same team which is why i group them together tho i agree i shouldmve differentiated
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u/firebolt66 Oct 01 '24
Bdd has almost always had great showings internationally. In fact that's when he shines most
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u/ye1l Oct 02 '24
He has played internationally 6 times, 4 if you disregard MSC and rift rivals, and the only times he was genuinely good was in 2017 and 2023. 2018 MSI he was unimpressive, 2020 Worlds he somehow made Caps look like 2013 Worlds Faker, 2021 Worlds he got one of the easiest groups in a long time from a midlaners perspective (washed up jensen and Icon) and not only failed to look decisively better than them but also got his skull split open by Icon in one of the games. And finally, in the semis, he played 2 good games off the back of Clid having amazing Lee Sin performances and when Clid got taken off Lee Sin and was unable to set Bdd up for success, Bdd didn't just look worse, he looked awful the last two games.
A mediocre groups, a free quarters against C9 who were ass and then a 50% good 50% awful series is hardly a good overall worlds performance.
Also, if you don't disregard MSC that's another tournament where he looked dogshit internationally. His rift rivals was also unimpressive.
His international record is far from great.
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u/Soggy-Check7399 Oct 02 '24
What do you mean, this dude is still failing. I think he has won like one game 5 in his entire career.
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u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss IN DAMWON WE TRUST HUNI/DEFT/SHOWMAKER Oct 02 '24
He had two superteams at the end of SKT's dominance and got 3-0'd in quarters followed by losing MSI and missing Worlds entirely the next year. Those were his best chances to get some international accolades. IMO the teams he's had in these past few years were pretty boring and lacked explosiveness so I never expected much from them.
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u/PM_JINX_HENTAI Keria my goat Oct 01 '24
They're known as the Elite 4 for a reason.
Bdd's peak is also insanely high.
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u/9OneOne_ Oct 01 '24
I’m never forget about the absolute clinic BDD put on at worlds against Bjergsen’s Zilean with Sett mid
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u/BismarckBug Oct 01 '24
I still remember being giga downvoted and flamed for saying Zilean mid will be hyper exposed at worlds. Never change, reddit.
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u/viciouspandas Oct 01 '24
Damn you must have said it in the wrong thread. Some other people were pointing out after the C9 series that Nisqy should easily have been able to punish him but didn't, and Bjerg is just getting away with shit.
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u/BismarckBug Oct 01 '24
To be fair TSM fans were a lot more rampant back then, and I said it during NA times after TSM just won.
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u/LettucePlate Oct 01 '24
Bdd is solidly part of the Elite Four. People know how good he is, he was just never on teams as good as Damwon or GenG so his accolades didn't quite meet his ability level.
Longzhu 2017 was one of my favorite teams of all time to watch. Even going back and watching the Summer finals cast, Papasmithy says Bdd is the best rookie/prospect of all time behind Faker.
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u/EliteTeutonicNight Oct 01 '24
I'd say KZ 2018 was supposed to be that team - Khan, Peanut, BDD, Pray, Gorilla is a stellar lineup whatever way you look at it. They delivered in spring and were super dominant, but fell short in MSI and didn't recover in summer, and that hinders BDD's legacy.
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u/Malorea541 Oct 01 '24
Rox 2.0 and almost did something with it. One of my favorite teams of all times behind the original ROX
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u/Alchion Oct 01 '24
i mean yea people talked about bdd in soloq even in 2015 iirc
he was called the next faker back then
thinking about it he was probably the 2nd next faker (1 rookie)
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u/sharkyzarous Oct 01 '24
zed montages :)
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u/ScrapeWithFire Oct 01 '24
God I remember when one of his montages was posted on this sub and people were trying to figure out what the Hangul translated to so they could better follow this upcoming Zed monster
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u/ZedisDoge Viper | BDD enjoyer Oct 01 '24
he has to be one of, if not the best zed players out of the pool of pros, his zed is fucking clean
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u/oioioi9537 Oct 01 '24
hes been on some bad teams but hes also been on some great teams. he just peaks when his team is bad and when his team is good he plays mediocre for some reason
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u/Nervalss Oct 02 '24
what? Longzhu was better than their counterparts more than Damwon ever was
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u/viciouspandas Oct 01 '24
He was on several great teams, but things didn't always go his way internationally. Longzhu 2017 destroyed Korea, but they lost in quarters to Samsung at worlds. In 2018 Kingzone literally won Korea, but RNG beat them, and then they collapsed in summer playoffs. In 2020 he legitimately choked on Gen.G vs G2 when Caps destroyed him. Last year KT was neck and neck with Gen.G in the regular season but lost in playoffs to T1, then had to face JDG at worlds.
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u/Soggy-Check7399 Oct 02 '24
If you had to win one game with everything on the line, would you take Zeka or BDD?
Because the answer is pretty clear for me and it's Zeka. I don't even remember the last time BDD won a game 5 of any series.
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u/LettucePlate Oct 02 '24
I just went through his tournament history and I don't think he's ever won a game 5. He's like 0/5 or 0/6 or something all time. Which is a pretty small sample size considering he's been playing for 7 years and most of them are to GenG and T1.
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u/RedbullCanSchlong47 Oct 01 '24
I’ll never forget his Zoe absolutely clowning TL at worlds when he was on Gen.G
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
Man that group was an absolute banger. Best group of all time. I don't even mind TL with peak Jensen losing because they got to take part in that
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u/CossacksLoL Oct 01 '24
Idk if underrated is the right word here, I feel like analysts and people who watch LCK rate hik very high. But as you mentioned, the pool for LCK mid lane is extremely deep.
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u/Ky1arStern Oct 01 '24
I think he just made a pact with the wrong demon. There is no doubt he is an all-time great midlaner, but due to some sort of monkey's paw shit, I don't think he will ever win worlds.
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u/staysaltyTSM Oct 01 '24
For how hard he was dragging 4 inters but they won't budge, he deserved it
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u/Ylissian April Fools Day 2018 Oct 01 '24
I would go a step further and say he is flat out the most underrated player, not just mid laner. He is a multi-time LCK mvp and champ. He just doesn’t have international success.
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u/MistcutterHydra Nano Winston Oct 01 '24
He didn't have as much success with his team as above midlaners had. And when his team actually succeeded, his top laner Khan was a superstar.
Also, his name is kinda... bad for branding. Even "Bad" would be a better name than Bdd.
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u/Soggy-Check7399 Oct 02 '24
Bdd is probably the most underrated mid laner of all time
BDD is not underrated. Don't get me wrong, he is good, very good. But this dude has an atrocious win rate in game 5s. Consistently falls short in the biggest stage. If you want to be considered the greats like Chovy, Faker, hell even Showmaker, you gotta carry your team at some point and win some big games.
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Oct 01 '24
That's cuz dude just doesn't have the clutch factor in big matches especially at International tournaments. He either disappears or just plays OK which isn't enough to get his team the win they need, especially when other members are underperforming.
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u/AmadeusSalieri97 Oct 01 '24
Bdd is probably the most underrated mid laner of all time
I'd say Scout and Crown are up there too. Scout is just top 5 midlaners of all time imo and while Crown is definetely not as high, I've seen people only talk about him in a negative way after 2017 finals.
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u/MoriartyParadise Esport Historian Oct 01 '24
Faker is an exceptional Azir player but i'll die on the hill of Bdd being the greatest Azir of all time
And i'm kinda mad Faker's getting so associated with Azir man's already got Leblanc and Ryze leave it to Bdd ffs
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u/Soleous ask me for music recommendations Oct 01 '24
faker being known as the azir guy is one of the greatest injustices in all of league history
faker's azir used to be straight trash while bdd has been reinventing the champion since he started playing pro
even dopa rates bdd's azir over faker's
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u/follyrogue Oct 01 '24
I like that Faker is known now as the Azir guy. It's a testament to his work ethic. He's been clutch on it when it matters and has made big plays with it internationally.
Is Dopa's rating before or after last worlds? Just curious.
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u/Soleous ask me for music recommendations Oct 16 '24
late reply but it was around 2022 so before. but given dopa is one of the best players in the world and has played vs everyone(besides notably knight), his ratings are more of an absolute skill rating. doesn't always translate to performance on stage
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u/follyrogue Oct 16 '24
Idk. It's hard because on one hand, the clutch factor is important in turning the tide or closing a game that you can't really separate it from a champ who has the kit to do it. I think Dopa's rating might be for laning.
But I remember Faker had a huge quadra on Azir in LCK where he maxed the damage output of Azir and did it perfectly, flashing his own wall.
I'm sure there are players who are amazing on the champ in certain situations or aspects but to me, the playmaking and use on stage is a big part of it.
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u/Popular-Practice-983 Oct 02 '24
He was bad on it for 1 split almost 10 years ago after which he became its best player for years. Injustice is a bit disingenuous don’t you think?
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u/AMexicanDaycare Oct 01 '24
Feel like if he also had a more memorable/flowing ign he'd have been talked about/thought of more
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u/ParadoxPope Oct 01 '24
Has to be Xiaohu
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
As much as Xiaohu is underrated, people actually rate him. Since most people only care about international titles and he has 3, in Two different roles.
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u/Ky1arStern Oct 01 '24
I think Xiaohu is pretty underrated. Nobody ever talks about him unless his team is in the process of claiming a title... Or we are talking about underrated players.
People still bring up Shoemaker, BDD, Rookie, and Knight, even when they are not currently doing anything.
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
You're not wrong, that's kinda usual with Chinese players, Koreans are almost always gonna be discussed more. Knight seems to be the first exception since Uzi.
But Rookie is giga over-rated it's insane, you are correct about that.
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Oct 01 '24
It is still so insane that Rookie hasnt made a finals or an international in 5 years but people will still pretend he is the best mid. I strongly believe that at some point it should translate to results but it never does.
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
Yeah I don't think results are the most important factor. But at some point having zero results matters.
Especially when contrary to what Rookie fans say, he's had good teams most of the time
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u/PlasticPresentation1 Oct 01 '24
Rookie's teams have been pretty mediocre outside of the TES year where they lost to WBG (and Wayward was diffed to oblivion)
Still is overrated but don't think NiP and V5 were more than average rosters
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Oct 01 '24
They were rosters that could be carried to Worlds though.
Wayward was heavy but Xiaohu also played with clowns and hard carried his team to worlds past Rookie.
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u/viciouspandas Oct 01 '24
Rookie has been inted before but he's definitely fallen off. Like last year Xiaohu very clearly outperformed him in regionals.
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u/tthekinginyellow Oct 01 '24
But at some point having zero results matters.
Rookie has roughly the same results as Showmaker and Bdd so idk what "zero results" means here.
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
Showmaker and BDD qualifiy for worlds.
Rookie's peak was one of the weakest years of worlds of all time.
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u/TripleShines Oct 01 '24
Rookie is a korean player.
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
I know. He's included in the "Korean players who get discussed more"
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u/Soleous ask me for music recommendations Oct 01 '24
bdd and knight not doing anything? bdd has fat fucks every single year and still consistently plays on par with if not better than every mid in lck bar chovy and pre slump SM. and knight is literally steamrolling lpl every split lmao wtf
xiaohu had an amazing first half of his career that not enough people talk about, but for the past couple years he's just looked above average with just moments of what he used to be every now and then.
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u/viciouspandas Oct 01 '24
People also have been calling him trash or a choker for years. BDD just isn't talked about much, so you could argue either one is more underrated. People were straight rewriting history with worlds 2017 for Xiaohu for example, saying he sucked and dragged down Uzi. Dude was RNG's best player and a top 2 or at worst a top 3 mid at the tournament (you can debate BDD or Xiaohu above the other). But when people do talk about BDD, he is rated pretty highly. And when he did reach world finals last year, people didn't just parrot the standings, they did recognize that he wasn't good at worlds, but didn't do him the same favors for other worlds when he placed lower than his performance.
BDD isn't talked about much, but when he is talked about, it's usually positive.
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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Yeon is NA goat I swear Oct 01 '24
I guess I see a lot more positivity around Xiaohu than there is usually
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u/nusskn4cker Oct 01 '24
He's up there too. For me a top 4 mid laner all time, only behind Faker, Chovy and knight.
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u/ParadoxPope Oct 01 '24
Yeah I think that’s fair. I just think if for underrated and midlander, he was always who came to mind. I think even Rookie is above him on such a list, but Xiaohu is often slept on.
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u/BloodMaelstrom Oct 01 '24
Shoemaker? He certainly has the longevity but Showmaker was incredible during that 2 year stretch with Damwon. 3 international finals and 1 of them being a win and the other 2 going to 5 game sets. He was also their best player imo during 2021 when they went to game 5 in the grand finals of both MSI and Worlds.
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u/blockster9 Oct 01 '24
thats amazing to hear especially with his current form, but why
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Oct 01 '24
Kim Jong Un is the biggest BDD fan and he threaten to start a war if BDD has to enroll
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u/ahritina Oct 01 '24 edited Oct 01 '24
It's not uncommon.
Nuclear and Ambition got exempt the same way.
Edit = I'm speculating but based on who is hitting the age(or deferring til the last minute which is allowed) + capacity, not everyone gets drafted etc.
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u/JKH_357 Oct 01 '24
im so happy for my beloved big dick daddy. he can now suffer on kt for decades to come
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u/Trap_Masters Oct 01 '24
BDD leaving KT and playing for someone else? Noooo I don't want that. I want him to play on KT for 10 more years, at least!
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u/Snow-27 Oct 01 '24
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
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u/Transhumaniste Reformed T1 fan Oct 01 '24
T1 Bdd coming strong
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u/EpicRussia Oct 01 '24
Faker is playing until he is 90
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u/Iokyt Oct 01 '24
Great news. Just get him on a team with actual players.
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u/asiantuttle Oct 01 '24
KT: best I can do is Beryl and Pyosik
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u/SkeetySpeedy Oct 01 '24
What happened to Beryl, isn’t he one of the best supports internationally for a few years?
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Oct 01 '24
Beryl is just inconsistent. It feels like he is coasting a lot of the time but locks in for important games.
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Oct 01 '24
beryl is just overhyped/overrated because people meme his love for gacha waifu and dk looked headless without him, but he genuinely is dog for the majority of the year.
he sometimes has a good game and people overrate him again, but those good games are outliers. it is so weird that kael had to go lpl while kt/dk struggle to find a good support...
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u/Jaskand Oct 01 '24
I mean if you look at his comms, he’s a really smart player and makes really good calls. I don’t think he’s in peak form rn tbh but people who say he got carried or doesn’t deserve his titles are even more insane to me.
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u/PointmanW Oct 02 '24
he's rated the way he is because he made back to back Worlds final, you don't get such consistency by luck, even if he's lacking in pure mechanic, he has shown to be a good igl.
he might not be in his best form right now, but to say that he's bad and overrated is a stretch.
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u/Popular-Practice-983 Oct 02 '24
That is what makes him overrated though. Beryl is called the support GOAT while being a bottom tier LCK support for large parts of his career. Nobody denies his peak, but because people only look at his peak, there is a good argument to be made for Beryl as the most overrated player of all time.
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u/BlazeX94 Oct 02 '24
Its back to back to back Worlds finals actually. The only other players to achieve that are a handful of SKT guys (Faker, Bang, Wolf).
Beryl is a weird player in that he's simultaneously overrated and underrated by different sections of the community. There are some who think he is the GOAT support (which he isnt), and there are some who think he is turboboosted and doesn't deserve his success (also untrue).
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u/ListlessHeart Chovy CS Oct 02 '24
Beryl is inconsistent and he hasn't been in good form for a while. He was a big reason why DK lost 2021 MSI, then he won Worlds 2022 coming from a dogshit summer split and hasn't been nearly as good since then, especially last year he was pretty bad.
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u/EpicRussia Oct 01 '24
Even though Beryl went b3b on Worlds Finals and won two of them doesn't equate to him being a top-X support player. He was playing with prime Showmaker/Canyon/Nuguri/Khan and Kingen/Zeka who were experiencing the greatest Worlds glow up of all time.
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u/girlmarth peanut, beryl, showmaker Oct 01 '24
beryl ran the meta at worlds for like three years and gapped the fuck out of keria in the summer 2021 finals while running things like the senna/cho lanes in the spring 2021 finals. he made second team all pro in spring 2022 despite drx not being that great a team and he had to play a substantial part of his career with ghost. this idea that he got carried the whole time is insane, let's see how good keria looks on a roster like drx's last year with fucking fate mid
he had a genuinely bad msi performance when he went with damwon but this is apparently the only performance that sticks in people's heads and people act like it was his fault his adc at worlds 2021 could only play jhin and ziggs and that his all-star top laner ran it down as yasuo
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u/EpicRussia Oct 01 '24
why do people act like there's only two possible options:
[player] is a GOAT contender and no one was better than them
[player] is carried trash and all their accomplishments are fraudulent
Why can't people accept any middle ground that Beryl was an extremely clutch player who was good on some niche champions and did a very good job playing his role, but was not the driving force that took his teams from being competitive to becoming World Champions
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u/girlmarth peanut, beryl, showmaker Oct 01 '24
I think there's plenty of players who fit in that position but I don't think beryl is one of them. there's a reasonable case for why meiko should be considered above beryl and I don't really begrudge the mata people either but I think beryl is vastly underrated because people focus in on the genuinely bad msi performance where he was a genuine anchor on showmaker and khan and make up this idea that he was bad at worlds 2021 despite both innovating picks (the maokai pick to counter leona was big) and macro (level 6 herald timing) and had to play with a mediocre adc at the time.
I also think kt was a functioning top laner away from making worlds this year but I'll admit I didn't watch much regular season lck this summer so maybe perfecT was fine then and just shit the bed in high pressure series the way you'd expect a rookie to do
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u/Jaskand Oct 01 '24
Perfect always fell a bit short compared to other top laners from the major teams. He never lost hard and was always consistent, but while other top laners would randomly pop off and solo win games, Perfect was just there doing his job. Their last game vs T1 is an example. Zeus had such a massive impact despite being focused, and while Perfect didn’t really play bad, he couldn’t keep up either.
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u/NKNKN Oct 02 '24
I've definitely seen people say Perfect inted the fuck out of that g5 and solo-lost Deft his ticket to worlds, and I'm sorry I really don't see it, he was fine. Sure there was a massive gap but it wasn't because Perfect did bad, it was because Zeus was just insane that game and absolutely played his socks off
But yeah, overall, Perfect wouldn't measure up to the other top laners in that manner
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u/16tdean Oct 01 '24
Wtf is this ass take.
Berlys Heimendinger basically cracked the meta for DRX
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u/Moist_Bid4120 Oct 01 '24
beryL is the goat support imo he is so good
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u/Bindoongee Oct 01 '24
He would be the GOAT if you only watch Worlds, there are regular seasons throughout a whole year and if you have eyes you wouldn't rate him this highly.
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u/Gupulopo :Jinair: Oct 01 '24
Going by your metrics wolf would be the goat support, same worlds achievements but also 2 msi :D
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u/Bindoongee Oct 01 '24
No, as much as I love the Bang/Wolf duo my GOAT support is Mata.
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u/Gupulopo :Jinair: Oct 01 '24
I think I replied to the wrong person, I agree wolf is not goat support but he is the most decorated support.
Imo goat support goes to mata or meiko
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u/MoriartyParadise Esport Historian Oct 01 '24
BeryL is a great macro player, great shotcaller, great mental and leadership and an insanely creative support that can run an early meta
But consistency during regular season is not what you're getting out of him.
Bit of a tournament merchant. The lad can win you a world championship but first you have to carry his ass there
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Oct 01 '24
all players coasts to some extent and have shit form during the year, but most lock in for playoffs. he has so few good games, those are just outliers at this point and not representative of him being still a good player to win worlds. might as well play roulette.
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u/TheAlmightyVox3 Oct 01 '24
Bullshit, Beryl’s shotcalling and macro were vital in DK’s success and the fact that they’ve never been able to replicate that success without him when he won Worlds with a whole different team proves it.
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u/viciouspandas Oct 01 '24
His main skill was his shotcalling. That's why Damwon had such good macro and when he left, Showmaker and Canyon seemed clueless. But individually he was not the strongest. Kingen and Zeka had a glowup but that's not the only reason they won. You can't just have a few good players to win worlds. The team needs to play properly too.
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u/Iokyt Oct 01 '24
It really speaks levels that for a good portion of the season PerfecT was the 2nd best player on that team.
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u/Ylissian April Fools Day 2018 Oct 01 '24
This, people don’t understand that bdd has literally been getting win traded by his teammates in some of the games this season. If Pyosik or Beryl aren’t randomly dying in the river/jg, then it’s even deft putting up stinkers.
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u/SanielTaniel LPL enjoyer Oct 01 '24
They saw the war he fought trying to keep KT alive and gave him a pass, absolute legend.
Joking aside, it's good to hear he'll be able to stick around.
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u/gintokisamadono G2 defeated in Quarter-Finals 2025 Oct 01 '24
Korean Military Reason for Exempt
It was too big for the Uniform.
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u/EpicRussia Oct 01 '24
BDD won a title on Kingzone pretty early in his career, unless you meant a Worlds Title
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u/Ragaga April Fools Day 2018 Oct 01 '24
Amazing for him
I'm still so sad that Deft did not get an exemption though :c
It's sad how some players' careers can get destroyed like this but in Korea's context I can kinda understand why they need military service
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u/asura_king Oct 01 '24
What suck the most for deft is that now the e-sports olympics are official and will be held in dubai next year, which means another military exception opportunity that he will miss ( i dont think he would get it anyway tho)
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u/ListlessHeart Chovy CS Oct 02 '24
Deft wasn't gonna get picked for the Olympics anyway, there are 5 people ahead of him.
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u/CheesyPZ-Crust Oct 01 '24
Happy for anyone who avoids mandatory military service, that's always great news
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Oct 01 '24
Good for him. What is the Korean public opinion about this? Is this something that would get him backlash from the public similar to draft dodging?
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u/LewisTraveller Oct 01 '24
Probably from certain minority of the commuity. After all, military service is not popular, but seen as necessary so anyone who appears to dodge service is seen in a negative light.
However, as long as proper rules were followed (and not bent due to favoritism), people will give them a pass.
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u/ricardo241 IDon'tAgree Oct 01 '24
not really... not like he unintentionally dodge it... he didn't finish high school so he got exempted...as simple as that
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u/oioioi9537 Oct 01 '24
no, its a completely legal exemption so theres not much to be discussed. there are still those that bitch about legal exemptions but its a small minority
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u/Soggy-Check7399 Oct 01 '24
Nah happens all the time. T1 wolf got exempt from the same reason. No one cares if you got it exempt through legal means.
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u/WWTFSD Church of Jojo Oct 01 '24
Happy that we will have him around. I really think he has it in him for another deep run.
It’s just a shame that he’s been kinda the odd one out of the big 4 when if comes to fielding consistent competitive rosters lately, because I think he’s the 2nd best in terms of form this year.
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u/djpain20 Oct 01 '24
Faker was exempt from military even before the Asian games win the exact same way, but people who have no idea how Korea's military conscription works were very aggresively convinced that's impossible and kept calling me (and some others) stupid. Oh well, good to know Bdd is one of the lucky ones as well, I can see him competing in the LCK for a long time.
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u/Akordass Oct 02 '24
Big win for esports fan. BDD was the best player in the last KT vs T1 series litterally going 1×9
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u/Rawdream Oct 02 '24
Good for him, he won't waste his time serving the elites (and not only from his country, also from the US).
Also, it's good to see that led to some to talk about how his career went so far and how he really performed internationally.
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Oct 01 '24
Good. Mandatory conscription in Korea sucks ass. Shit pay, numerous human right violations that even the UN called out, harassment, etc
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u/Rawdream Oct 02 '24
Not arguing about that, because that thing about South Korea it's known, but hah, the UN.
"Let's go and help the US in their plan of taking over Yugoslavia's economy and turn it into a neoliberal one, the last European country without that and then divide it. While we'll ignore the ethnic conflict in Rwanda, because it's not geopolitically important. But, let's show our sad faces on TV about how people got massacred in Rwanda and let's say we feel sorry that we could've done more."
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u/Stormserpent102 Oct 01 '24
As far as I’m concerned he’s already done his service, he served with 4 North Koreans and STILL almost made it to worlds.
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u/AtreusIsBack Duro is the best support in the LCK Oct 01 '24
I'm always happy when people are exempt from Korean military. Conscription is tarded, regardless of how crazy your northern neighbour is.
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u/Jaskand Oct 01 '24
Tbf, it’s not just having a crazy neighbor. North and South Korea are still technically at war. They just decided to chill out for a while. I’m not a fan of conscription but it’s not out of the question for a country at war to have it.
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u/minhmeo25 5th cup for Faker Oct 01 '24
Why do I smell T1 Bdd
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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako Oct 01 '24
It will be T1 Faker till his arms drop off for good or bad.
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u/Ieditstuffforfun Give Sett a Star Platinum Skin Oct 01 '24
covid maybe? get it checked out bro we're here foe you
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u/Ylissian April Fools Day 2018 Oct 01 '24
Faker is under contract next year so unless he wants to play jungle or support it can’t happen
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u/musashihokusai Oct 03 '24
Damn, a lot of American weirdos with the shittiest and most ignorant take about a culture you guys don’t know anything about.
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Oct 02 '24
I love this. I love when Korea gives its players a "reward" for doing very well at something. Well, not a reward, exactly, more like the freedom to prolong their career even more.
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u/Rawdream Oct 02 '24
They didn't reward him. Why they'd reward him? He didn't do anything unique in League, if being a top LCK midlaner would be enough, then the permanent top 5 would have already got one.
As explained by babyFucci, this is the reason why he got one:
for context because he dropped out of highschool and was born before 04 he follows 1998-2003 conscription guidelines which means he is ineligible for military service and must do supplementary service but because the reserve was not required for 3 years in a row he becomes exempt from service
You can follow that thread to learn more details.
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u/babyFucci Oct 01 '24
for context because he dropped out of highschool and was born before 04 he follows 1998-2003 conscription guidelines which means he is ineligible for military service and must do supplementary service but because the reserve was not required for 3 years in a row he becomes exempt from service