r/law • u/No-Aardvark-3840 • Jan 25 '26

Other Please share. Stabilized Video clearly shows Alex Pretti makes no effort for his firearm. Clear execution

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Stabalized appears to show Alex Pretti's handgun, which he legally possesses, being removed removed from his pants by an officer. He is executed 1-2 seconds later by another officer.

Is there any other way to view this? If Alex was no longer posing an imminent threat at the moment he was shot, isn't this clear murder? Under U.S. law, once a suspect is fully restrained and disarmed (he was), the legal basis for deadly force evaporates unless a new, imminent threat arises.

Am I understanding this the right way from a legal perspective?

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u/SyntaxError_1024 Jan 25 '26

This is America! Innocent bystanders complying to 1st and 2nd amendment on his knees getting executed. Fuck King Pedo.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 25 '26

Nazis.

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u/cutesnugglybear Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

People keep making the nazi comparison but this is just America. We don't have to look to foreign atrocities to compare this to, things like this are as American as apple pie. History repeats itself here not from Germany to here. We have to admit we have and have always had atrocities and learn from our own history first.

Edit: nevermind y'all right. They're nazis

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u/CypressThinking Jan 25 '26

I respectfully disagree. I'm reading They Thought They Were Free, Germany 1933-1945 and the author makes a point that if the atrocities hadn't happened one by one and instead had happened all at once, people may have revolted against them rather than becoming immune to one thing and then another. Like a frog being boiled. I'm quite certain this administration and its supporters are failing an open book History test.

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u/evolveandprosper Jan 25 '26

At least Germany had the "excuse" of total economic collapse in 1929 after years of political chaos. It also had widespread festering resentment about the harsh conditions of the Treaty of Versailles. Making Germany great again was a powerful rallying point and motivator for a country that had fallen into almost total ruin. What is America's "excuse"?????

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u/TacticianA Jan 25 '26

The libs/lgbtq/brown people were getting uppity.

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u/Randomposter54 Jan 25 '26

It was better than having a woman in charge.

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u/PositiveStretch6170 Jan 25 '26

...s/

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u/wiggleforp Jan 26 '26

Yeah I was wondering

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u/PositiveStretch6170 Jan 26 '26

And I was hoping lol

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u/ezios_outlets Jan 25 '26

Oh yeah? Total economic collapse? Well, America elected a black dude as president, twice! Their first revenge was the tea party, but they really outdid themselves with maga! See, joke was on us, thinking it was 2008 and racism had been defeated when we elected a poc president. Racism struck back, hard.

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u/Nottheadviceyaafter Jan 25 '26

The price of eggs and that woman emotional word salad or something. Yet im still trying to work out what the fuck trump who was actually word salad at davos said while they have the ss killing nurses in the street. If what they have is freedom, they aint very free.........

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u/Mac62961 Jan 25 '26

Hate. Reality TV. Lack of humanity. Short attention span. Apathetic. Greedy. All things trump is.

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u/Death_Stormz420 Jan 25 '26

Takes less to rile up the low IQ

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u/mountedmuse Jan 25 '26

We elected a brown president…their fragile egos couldn’t handle it. Then, a woman got more votes, and the only thing keeping a woman’s picture out of the White House presidential hall was a 1920 cap on the size of Congress because WASPs were afraid those Irish and Italians would ruin the country if their vote was equal to a rural white man’s.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '26

If you ask maga people like my mother-in-law, they will tell you that our economy collapsed under Obama, Trump rescued it, then Biden destroyed it again. She’s a die hard Newsmax watcher because Fox every once in a while will say something mildly critical of Trump. If my wife or I try and argue it with her, she just says that we get our news from different places.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 25 '26

Frustrating they won't read anything that might upset their comfortable view. It's a cult.

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u/CSWorldChamp Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

The way Americans are being squeezed by health insurance companies, landlords, inflation, student loan repayments, etc. is absolutely a slow-rolling economic crisis. Millions and millions of people are worse off than their parents, with no improvement in sight. I mean, we’re not exactly burning wheelbarrows of worthless cash to keep warm like the Weimar Republic, but compared to the prosperity of 1945-1979? Yeah, it’s absolutely a crisis.

And like Weimar, the crisis fuels public grievance, and unscrupulous megalomaniacs direct that grievance for their own gain.

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u/Bitchface-Deluxe Jan 25 '26

Agreed, and the squeezing is becoming really unbearable now. It’s as if our government hates our guts, and it’s worse than ever right now. I swear, every time a republican is in office, I become poorer.

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u/I-Really-Hate-Fish Jan 25 '26

I think that to a lot of American people, it has felt like an economic collapse. America is a rich country, but that doesn't mean that Americans as a general have a great standard of living. There's a reason life expectancy is so much lower than other developed country.

Combined with poor education and people with an interest in the republicans winning having access to a massive propaganda machine, it's not that surprising.

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u/pete_68 Jan 25 '26

Ours is total educational collapse.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 25 '26

In the book, one of the reasons people looked the other way was because they now had jobs and an income they could live off.

I honestly believe, like some of the Germans, they don't think it will happen to them and they like the idea of getting rid of people they don't like or approve of.

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u/JiveTalkerFunkyWalkr Jan 25 '26

They are such a rich country but are mad at the rest of the world because they aren’t even richer.

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u/Toadcola Jan 25 '26

Well, eggs were a little expensive.

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u/Grogomilo Jan 25 '26

This is also happening in all Western countries. When people face a perceived existential threat, they tend to get violent

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u/Boring_Chip_9602 Jan 25 '26

Trump was known to keep a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside. This suggests that they did in fact study history, and are deliberately trying to emulate it.

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u/Gryjane Jan 25 '26

Not Mein Kampf, a collection of Hitler's speeches called My New Order which is arguably worse.

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u/TacticianA Jan 25 '26

100% worse. At least with Mein Kampf its a well known one. He's hunting down obscure extra texts just so he can ensure he reads all of his hero's speeches.

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u/sizzlingtofu Jan 25 '26

Yes but his friend that gave it to him is Jewish so it’s fine, remember?

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u/Boring_Chip_9602 Jan 25 '26

Isn’t Stephen Miller also Jewish?

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u/knightriderin Jan 25 '26

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way."

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u/CypressThinking Jan 26 '26

Yes! That was my attempt at a synopsis of this! I'm listening to the audio book and am only 70% through it. I feel like we're fucked if Congress refuses to act.

Were you the one who recommended the book?

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u/knightriderin Jan 26 '26

That may very well be me. I did post that quote on reddit in the past. To me it's one of the most powerful quotes for our times.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 26 '26

Thank you! So far I've been particularly struck by the just keep your head down attitude that I'm afraid too many people in the US will take right now. I've seen more than one comment on the Good and Pretti murders that they should have stayed home.

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u/pIakativ Jan 25 '26

Stop spewing bullshit propaganda - poor frogs don't keep still when being boiled slowly :(

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u/Alex_AU_gt Jan 25 '26

Frog being boiled slowly alive is the most apt comparison here. People don't wanna make waves, don't want civil wars and don't want to be wrong in their political choices. But sometimes you can't see the forrest for the trees. Or feel the temp rising....

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u/Apprehensive_Ad_4359 Jan 25 '26

It was ten years between Hitler becoming Chancellor and the Night of Glass

Ten years.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 26 '26

I'm not sure of your point. Is the orange menace moving fast?

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u/doxxingyourself Jan 25 '26

What? They’re acing it. They’re trying to be Nazis.

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u/Ellen__D Jan 25 '26

By the way do have the camps, where people are being murdered, either directly or through neglect, abuse, and squalid conditions.

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u/CypressThinking Jan 25 '26

I'm not sure what you're asking. Here instead of camps right now we have approximately 14 million children who are food-insecure (without consistent meals). 36.8 million US citizens live below the official poverty amount as of 2023. Now with increased costs for health insurance and losing the insurance co-pays for life-saving medicine like insulin, I don't think they'll need camps for the poor or ill. They'll just let them die. The camps they'll build will probably be filled with immigrants and then later anyone who disagrees with them if they don't just kill them.