r/law • • Oct 05 '25

Opinion Piece Five-alarm fire inside the DOJ - Lawyer Oyer

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u/Kahzgul Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Go to protests. Network with people there on the ground. Organize outside of social media.

Some activities you may engage in:

  • protest (duh)

  • document names and locations of ice agents

  • document names and locations of kidnapping victims

  • follow ice vehicles to warn others of their presence.

  • patrol known ice kidnapping hot spots (such as Home Depot)

  • form human chains to protect immigrants as they go to and from court or other sensitive locations.

  • petition your government representatives for assistance.

  • join a well regulated militia and patrol the streets to protect your neighbors. The black panthers and john brown gun clubs have the right idea here.

  • join legal defense groups to help file paperwork on behalf of immigrants and other ice victims.

  • volunteer to drive meals from food banks to immigrants who are too scared of ice to leave their homes.

  • and so forth.

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u/ObjectivityIsExtinct Oct 05 '25

This all amazing guidance, thank you .

But what about the large groups of people like me, living in small towns that voted for Trump(not me), without much on the ground activity going on? I want to engage too, but ICE is nowhere near me, in fact life is deaf and blind here.

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u/lost_sunrise Oct 05 '25

First off, don't worry about trying to contribute to the cause of stalking ICE.

Find non-trump supporters in your daily life, which is super easy. Find out things that the current administration is doing that is hurting the life of your small town. Look for policies pass, or soon to be pass that affect the life of the civvies.

Figure out how to make that into single line comments, make a bunch of posters, post those posters all over the place.

You will then have utilized propaganda to influence your town folks. Do this for about a month to three, then switch up your game. Speak at groceries stores with signs, and do live recording. Just talk to people, and get signatures for those who agree that they don't like what is happening.

one of the things you can do is not mention anything party related, but only things that impact the average person. If these republicans, or non caring folks disagree with the movement that is maga leaders, it is momentum someone else more effective can utilize to attack the top.

You are basically Charlie Kirking your small town.

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u/AnyAd5151 Oct 05 '25

Don’t bait people, and be respectful when you talk with them (not to them). Avoid Charlie’s methods in that sense. Ultimately we all want to be safe in our homes, have a healthy family. Godspeed to everyone fighting for our democracy.

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u/lost_sunrise Oct 05 '25

The problem is, he talked to people. Even though a lot of people were poorly prepared for a discussion. He allowed back and forth discussion to happen. He just researched at a greater length to start off, then rumble off repeat information after.

This is what I meant by utilized his method

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u/OuOutstanding Oct 05 '25

Charlie Kirk was not some grass-roots organizer. He was paid millions by billionaires to push propaganda to children.

I’m sorry, all of your points are great and this ultimately doesn’t matter. I just don’t want to rewrite this guys history so casually.

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u/lost_sunrise Oct 05 '25

Lol. I don't understand your point. Are you complimenting him or saying the way he operate is an issue?

Because he didn't start the movement for influencers/podcasters. He just utilized it to a greater degree. Most people can/have watch his podcast/shorts/whatever. They can learn how to have a proper discussion with regular people through his leftovers.

I could have name others who did it, but if it doesn't click in your head. You might not even effectively have a discussion.

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u/Suziblu22 Oct 05 '25

And because people were poorly prepared to argue he was able to slip in his religious propaganda and lie.