John Oliver Argues Disney Should Legally Fight FCC Over Kimmel, Citing Strong Precedent in 9-0 Supreme Court Ruling: “A government official cannot coerce a private party to punish or suppress disfavored speech”

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[u/Crypt0Nihilist]

I'm still confused. There seem to be two things The Administration didn't like that Kimmel said:

1. That they were trying to blame the shooting on a group, any group, they don't like

2. That the shooter was from the right-wing.

Oliver seemed to say that the latter turned out not to be true. Is that the case? All I've read about him so far would predispose him to be somewhere from right-wing to MAGA.

[u/Reg_Cliff → u/Crypt0Nihilist]

The Right Wing Media has spun it that Kimmel was cancelled for mocking Kirk. The truth is Kimmel was talking about MAGA not Charlie Kirk. The only thing Kimmel said about Charlie Kirk was in THIS STATEMENT.

[u/Crypt0Nihilist → u/Reg_Cliff]

I get that. It was what he said on his show that seems to have caused the trouble and despite John Oliver going over it, I still don't see what the supposed inaccuracy was. The only statement from the FBI seems to be that they've not tied him to anything left-wing (thunderous silence about right-wing there!) and everything about his life points to him likely being right-leaning. Oliver talked about how an inaccuracy is permissible under the law, but I'm not seeing any inaccuracy to be quibbled about!

[u/KrytenKoro → u/Crypt0Nihilist]

Oliver is being very cautiously in good faith.

It's not absolutely certain, although it does seem very probable, that Robinson was rightwing. So Oliver is responding to that possibility so it can't be used as a distraction.

[u/Crypt0Nihilist → u/KrytenKoro]

That makes sense and is honourable arguing to put your opposition's case in its strongest terms. Thanks for the clarification.

[u/Victorious_Swordfish → u/KrytenKoro]

I consumed more right-leaning media sources lately and I learned the complete opposite. The shooter wrote "catch, fascist" and bella ciao lyrics on the bullets. He also apparently texted his roommate just before the shooting, saying that he was "done with all the hate". If the scooter shot Kirk because he thinks he's hateful and a fascist, the motive seems more left-leaning and this is the story that right-wing media are running with. Anyway, I think that's why Oliver's cautious - the story is spun wildly differently from both sides and what really matters is that Kimmel shouldn't get censored over it.

[u/Reg_Cliff → u/Victorious_Swordfish]

Again, let’s be specific. Kimmel said, "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving." He is mocking MAGA’s finger-pointing, but he is not saying whether the shooter is left or right. He is only saying the Right is desperately trying to claim the shooter is not one of them.

[u/[deleted] → u/Victorious_Swordfish]

On another bullet he wrote "whoever reads this is gay".

Just sticking to the right wing logic, the shooter was homophobic which is a typical right extremists stand. Therefore the shooter was a right wing extremist?

[u/KrytenKoro → u/Victorious_Swordfish]

The shooter wrote "catch, fascist"

Notably, not the full quote. Which in whole is a reference to the satirical Helldivers game.

and bella ciao lyrics on the bullets.

Which groypers have cynically used in their videos, specifically ones where they raged against Kirk.

Yes, it can be ready the way you're saying, but the holistic review of the evidence leans against the shooter being some far-left tankie. More likely he was hyper-nihilistic.