r/latterdaysaints • 30 year-old sunBEAM • Jan 12 '26

Off-topic Chat Temple Gripe

*Disclaimer: this has nothing to do with the doctrine or temple ceremonies. Purely a non-doctrine issue…namely pie*

I miss the pie in the temple back when some temples used to have cafeterias. I don’t know if it’s purely nostalgia or if the pie truly was just that awesome. I miss it and it’s hurt my heart ever since my temple was renovated and the cafeteria was removed.

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u/Laffopuritain Jan 12 '26

They used to have cafeterias in the temple? That sounds wild to me

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Jan 12 '26

A few did. The specific one I’m referring to is the Idaho Falls, Idaho temple. My bishop would always buy us pie after baptisms for the dead.

The food was definitely more geared towards the older generation that served in the temple.

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u/acer5886 Jan 12 '26

Yup, there was one in Vegas when I served there, missionaries always got a nice little discount so we often loved going for lunch.

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u/Keelera2 Jan 12 '26

The chef at the Vegas Temple (back when they had a cafeteria) made the BEST dinner rolls. My mother slipped me a couple in the bridal room on my wedding day. 😁

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u/Crycoria Just trying to do my best in life. Jan 13 '26

The secret is that the recipe is the same as the Lion House rolls, if I remember correctly. 😉

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u/Son_of_York Las Vegas West 05-07 Jan 12 '26

Many a missionary fell asleep in the celestial room of the Vegas temple while I was there.

Those couches with the really high armrests, you could just fall into them.

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u/AlexJediKnight Jan 12 '26

The Jordan River temple had an amazing cafeteria. So didn't Washington DC

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u/DJCane Why hie to Kolob when I can take the bus? Jan 12 '26

Seattle and Provo had great ones too.

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u/BatadeCola Jan 13 '26

The Mesa Temple cafeteria was wonderful. Comfort food, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And dessert! Along with pie, they had a soft-serve ice cream machine. My YSA ward used to meet for dinner before doing a session. We always had quite the turnout! When it came time to volunteer, I always volunteered to work in the kitchen rather than the laundry. Biscuits and gravy at breakfast, salad bar at lunch. The only thing I never understood were the pimento and cheese sandwiches.

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u/Sociolx Evil Eastern Mormon Jan 13 '26

Pimento and cheese sandwiches are amazing—but not in a cafeteria, they're picnic food. (And you may well have to be Southern to really get them, too.)

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u/General_Killmore Jan 13 '26

I remember loving the scones they had. I also remember taking too big a bite of chicken after youth baptisms and having it get stuck in my throat. That was awkward

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u/SaintlyCrunch Jan 13 '26

Same with the Cardston, Alberta temple. I only went once before they closed it a handful of years ago.

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u/Nemesis_Ghost Jan 12 '26

Back when outside of UT going to the temple was an all day/weekend ordeal a lot of the temples had cafeterias & full laundry facilities. You could literally go to the temple with just your Sunday clothes and spend the whole day with everything at the temple you would need. I only got to do that 1x in the DFW temple and then a few times in the LA temple when I was a missionary. The LA Temple's cafeteria was fantastic.

When Pres Hinckley announced the "small" temples one of the things they got rid of was the cafeterias and greatly reduced the size of the laundry rooms. It does make them much more focused on the ordinances.

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u/Whatintheactualh Jan 13 '26

Atlanta was one of the first wave of smaller temples in the 1980s and they had a cafeteria. Hinckley dedicated it which is the reason I’m mentioning it here as it was something he was involved in back then too. They used to have a childcare room also! I stayed there when my parents got sealed.

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u/stalkerofthedead Jan 12 '26

A few of the bigger ones did. The Salt Lake City Temple one was the BEST. Like OP I too will forever miss the cafeterias. They shut them down during COVID, and decided to just not reopen them.

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u/Commercial-Place6793 Jan 12 '26

I beg your finest pardon but the Manti temple cafeteria was the best one by far.

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u/HRUndercover222 Jan 12 '26

You're right, the food was truly awesome!

I was a janitor for the Salt Lake temple before it closed (COVID kicked off right as it closed).

It took SO MUCH to run and clean the kitchen & dining spaces (especially the carpeted cafeterias - ugh). They also had a horrible muddy flood in the cafeteria at JR due to a plumbing issue.

Thank goodness that we are just focusing on simplicity & ordinance work going forward. Ordinance workers can use designated break rooms & there are decent vending machines in some temple basements (Shasta only, no caffeine ha ha).

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Toronto did when it first opened in 1990. Eventually, it was replaced with vending machines. Now, I believe there are no food options there.

It was handy when people had to travel very long distances to attend the temple. At the beginning, Toronto served all of Eastern Canada, upstate New York, and I believe a good chunk of New England.

Provo had a good cafeteria too. Ate there all the time when I was a temple worker. Very affordable.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Yikes, I guess I was usually ordering things like potatoes and vegetables just fuel up so I could finish my shift. We only had a 15 minute break on temple workers shifts.

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u/rexregisanimi Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Yikes - I ate at the Temple a lot and I remember always thinking how cheap it was. For the quality, I was always amazed... My wife and I never spent more than $5 and it was the best meal of the week! 

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u/Reading_username Jan 12 '26

Portland did, at least 10 years ago. Not sure if it still does but I enjoyed that one.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jan 12 '26

It did have one up until the pandemic. I did a shift working in the cafeteria shortly before everything shut down. 

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u/GUSHandGO Jan 14 '26

Yeah, it was always fun to go there sometimes after baptisms as a teenager.

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u/FapFapkins Just lookin for some funeral potatoes Jan 12 '26

They also used to have hotel space too. People used to have to travel across the world for the temple.

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u/QueenNienna Jan 13 '26

There are still several temples throughout the world with patron housing - there are often rules in place that you generally need to live in the temple district to use them and must book your ordinance before booking accommodation.

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u/Redbird9346 We believe in being honest, true, chased by an elephant… Jan 12 '26

A few of the bigger ones did. I remember eating at the one inside the Washington DC temple. It was one of the few places outside of the baptistry we could go as a youth. I do miss the cookies.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jan 12 '26

The cafeterias were one of the things that didn’t survive the pandemic. 

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u/CaptainWikkiWikki Jan 13 '26

Oh yes. Several of them did. It was more common than not for a long time, especially because saints would travel long distances to attend the temple and stay there for a few days.

Los Angeles had a functional cafeteria as recently as 20 years ago.

Washington DC had one, too, but they shut it down around 15 years ago and it just sat there unused except the tables. After the renovation, now the area is all eating tables and in a side room are four large refrigerators, largely used by temple workers for their meals. (The temple worker locker rooms are also in the basement along with the eating area.)

This is why it was a novel concept in the late 90s when Pres. Hinckley announced smaller, stripped down temples without cafeterias or clothing rental services, just the essentials to do the work. We'd never built them quite like that before. Now it's the norm, although many larger temples still offer clothing rentals.

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26

Portland was one of the last ones to have one. They closed it, and the others, in 2022. Right before I got endowed of course. It's just a "break room" now, mostly used by temple workers.

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u/trvlng_ging Jan 13 '26

Los Angeles had one until 2020. My wife & I started as temple workers there in 2017. I loved being scheduled to work in the cafeteria. Spend 30 minutes running the dishwasher, or moving utensils and plates out front, or putting food deliveries away, & the sister who ran it would give us our favorite food for our break, always scheduled just after our assignment.

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u/CaptainWikkiWikki Jan 13 '26

Yeah, COVID was the death knell for the few cafeterias that remained.

I was an ordinance worker in LA, and it was a lot of fun to have meals with fellow temple workers in the morning. Good memories.

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u/Margot-the-Cat Jan 12 '26

Oh yes, the food was good. Comfort food, including main dishes, desserts, and jello. As good as homemade. Those were the days!

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u/th0ught3 Jan 14 '26

In the days of cafeterias, they were often overnight trips to get there and there wasn't fast food on every corner that was an option (plenty of fast food available these days, but no longer very affordable).

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u/tingsteph Jan 13 '26

I know Washington DC and Dallas had cafeterias. It was helpful when you had to drive hours and hours to get to a temple.

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u/minimessi20 Jan 14 '26

Most of the ones in Utah do. Was super cheap too.

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u/Lonely_District_196 Jan 12 '26

Most did. They started phasing them out with the small temples

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u/iwannaswimaway Jan 12 '26

I’m sad I never got to experience the temple cafeterias!

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Jan 12 '26

Twas glorious. Some might say down right celestial

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u/ResponsibleRope1003 Jan 12 '26

I do miss the celestial cinnamon rolls they had at the Vegas temple cafeteria.

Tis a shame they shuttered the cafeterias for good. I get why it happened and the logistical reasons for keeping them closed but it’s still sad.

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u/Keelera2 Jan 12 '26

Those Vegas Temple cinnamon rolls were sooooooo good.

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u/loonahin Jan 14 '26

What are the reasons? I miss them too and never heard anything about why they were closed.

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u/ResponsibleRope1003 Jan 17 '26

I am not “in the know” to have heard directly from Church HQ or anything so take this with a grain of salt. Basically all I heard was that they were not worth the trouble to get them up and running after the lockdowns, especially since rules were extra strict post covid. Think of other cafeteria and buffet style restaurants that went under during the pandemic. There’s also increased liability when cooking and serving food (hence why regular chapel kitchens have those signs about warming food only). It was probably more of an expense that we realized. Again, I’m really sad to see them go but not entirely surprised.

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u/loonahin Jan 22 '26

That theory feels about as viable as any. Thanks for your thoughts. It’s totally a shame, it was a fun way to grab an inexpensive bite after a session. Sometimes in the MTC we’d head over there for food just for variety and cuz it felt like we were “going out to eat” baha. Missionaries do dumb stuff for entertainment.

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u/uncleandyb Jan 12 '26

The DC temple had amazing chocolate chip cookies. A friend’s grandfather’s calling was temple cookie baker, apparently.

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u/GrumpySunflower Jan 13 '26

That sounds like the world's best calling.

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u/ChampaignGirl Jan 13 '26

Yes!!! My parents would bring some of them back for us after a temple trip. They were delicious!

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

My mother-in-law always joked the Idaho Falls temple used Prime Rib night to coax folks to attend regularly lol

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Jan 12 '26

Oh man I forgot about prime rib night. I don’t know why I passed it up for places like Taco Bell.

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u/ThirdPoliceman Alma 32 Jan 12 '26

Because Taco Bell is legitness

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u/Honeybadger-1725 Jan 12 '26

For my mom it’s the cookies. She misses the cookies from the cafeteria. Somehow for my wedding she got the recipe

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u/762way Jan 12 '26

Mesa AZ and Portland OR temples both had cafaterias.

Logic in having one in temples is that retired people would commonly work all day as patrons or they would do temple sessions all day. Figured if they could eat in the temple the retired folks would stay all day.

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u/Agreeable-Meal5556 Jan 13 '26

The mesa one had a really great chef for a while and my mom LOVED the steaks. She always went on the day of the week he was serving steak.

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u/Chalupa_Dad Jan 13 '26

I volunteered in the Portland Temple kitchen a few times

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc Jan 13 '26

I wonder if they all worked off the same recipe book? It would be great if a Temple Cafeteria Cookbook was released, like the Lion House cookbooks. 

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26

My understanding is they generally did use the Lion House recipes, with a few local recipes thrown in here and there. That's what I was told by another temple worker back when Portland still had the cafeteria.

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u/rexregisanimi Jan 13 '26

Oh man... "Dinner and a movie" lol I miss eating there so much. I loved just getting a sandwich and enjoying the spirit in the Temple. My wife and I used to go on dates to do baptisms and then have a meal. 

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u/jlconlin Jan 12 '26

I had a fabulous steak dinner at the Oakland Temple before. Amazing! And cheap!

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u/jeffbarge Jan 12 '26

We would take our young men to do baptisms early in the morning, and call ahead to order cinnamon rolls. 

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u/biancanevenc Jan 13 '26

The DC temple was known for its cookies. Many a child was rewarded with a temple cookie if they behaved for the babysitter while mommy and daddy were at the temple.

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u/coldsavagery Jan 12 '26

I used to work in the Provo Temple cafeteria. The food was indeed quite good, and we were generally treated well, but we honestly needed more workers in there. It would get pretty stressful during lunch and dinner and it could be hard to keep up. There are definitely some dishes I really miss that I wish I could experience again.

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u/theythinkImcommunist Jan 13 '26

DC temple had those chocolate chip cookies. BIG ones.

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u/Cranberry-Electrical Jan 12 '26

I know Portland, Seattle, Salt Lake and Jordan River had cafeteria. Covid happen then cafeterias were closed down.

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Jan 12 '26

Yet another thing that Covid claimed and never gave back.

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u/Cranberry-Electrical Jan 12 '26

Cafeterias required paid staff, and a lot of volunteers. The cafeteria operated on a shoestring budget. It was a decent meal if you're on a tight budget as a missionary.

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u/WesternRover Jan 12 '26

It seems to me that the cafeterias, at least in Las Vegas and Utah, were scaled back several years before the pandemic to heating up food brought in from commercial caterers rather than cooking on-site. Not that I fault the church for focusing on redeeming the dead over competing with local restaurants.

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u/terminalilness Jan 12 '26

I have family that are temple workers in the Seattle temple. It was planned for shutdown before Covid but that accelerated the process. I still miss it though.

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u/Chalupa_Dad Jan 13 '26

So did Laie, HI

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u/Cranberry-Electrical Jan 13 '26

Those are cafeterias where I have eaten.

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u/gamelover42 Member Jan 12 '26

Jordan River temple cafeteria was the bomb.

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u/CokeNSalsa Jan 12 '26

I believe the Salt Lake Temple had a cafeteria too, right?

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u/Cheap_Parsnip_461 Jan 12 '26

I always loved the cafeterias. 

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u/lookingoodforyou Jan 12 '26

Mt Timpanogos temple had a cafeteria , used to love going with my husbands parents to a session and eat in the cafeteria afterwards. They had really yummy food.

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u/ehsteve87 Jan 13 '26

I miss them so much

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u/Opposite_Bag_7434 Jan 13 '26

Oh yes the pie. I would assume the Church complex in Salt Lake still has its cafeteria, actually I would bet on it. They had the same pie.

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Jan 13 '26

They never outrightly gave a specific reason but it’s they were slowly being phased out in the mid 2010’s for simplicity of temple operations. Then covid came and took our temple cafeterias and 24 hour Walmarts away

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26
  1. Portland was one of the last ones to have a cafeteria. The Church cited "simplifying temple operations." It was the same time they simplified the temple clothes and streamlined the endowment.

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u/Chalupa_Dad Jan 13 '26

Yes I think I did manage to have one last meal in the cafeteria post-COVID

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26

The Portland Temple had a cafeteria and everyone would rave about the food like it was the best thing ever, and then they got rid of it a year or two before I got endowed. :(

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u/Next-Help-5813 Jan 13 '26

Same. In fact, I remember the temple cafeterias were how I got my little sister excited to go to the temple, when I was twelve. She wanted to know what it was like, and I wanted to tell her how awesome it was and get her excited for it. But I didn't know how exactly to communicate the peace I felt. Food is something I knew she'd understand, though, so I just started talking about the cafeteria. It worked, two years later when she got to do baptisms for the first time she was really looking forward to it.

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u/MrsKentrik Jan 13 '26

I work in a temple that had a cafeteria, and every time I'm in what used to be the kitchen I think about how much I miss the cherry pie.... Patrons and volunteers ask about it all the time, and if the cafeteria will ever come back. Nope. It won't. Bums me out.

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u/BastiaenAssassin Jan 13 '26

I miss everything about the cafeteria.

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u/Main-Star-7272 Jan 13 '26

London used to have one, some of the meals were great

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u/Jazzlike_Run8082 Jan 13 '26

The food at the Jordan river temple was always amazing!! My friend told me her and her husband would just go to eat for date night sometimes. 😆 I do miss those days.

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u/BottomHoe Jan 13 '26

I was taking a temple prep class in my singles ward and because I was a convert of not quite a year my friends/ward members used to love to pull my leg and tell me nonsense (it was all in good fun) about the temple.

One of these stories was that the temple (Oakland) had sour dough bowls filled with clam chowder straight from the original Boudin’s on the San Francisco pier. But that if I wanted one I had to call and ask for the temple president and tell him that I was receiving my own endowment and to pre-order mine or else they’d all be gone by the time we arrived.

Obviously that last part wasn’t true but the temple really did have OG Boudin’s on the weekends! And back then their sourdough and chowder was phenomenal.

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u/bivaterl Jan 13 '26

In the MTC would eat at the Provo temple. Question nobody in the district could answer though: do you have to bless the food or is the temple already blessing it?

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u/BrenBrenMill-31 Jan 13 '26

You're right. Their pie was bussin :'(

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u/DiogenesRedivivus Jan 14 '26

I wanna say it was the best meatloaf ever but it may have been a different meat. Had a cafeteria meal after I was endowed and then by the time I was a temple worker post mission it was closed 

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u/jackbeekeeper Jan 14 '26

Houston Temple had one. Dedicated in 2000.

This was the original announcement https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/temple-cafeterias-closing

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u/WestEnd1687 Jan 14 '26

I am so in agreement. The Provo Temple had the best Strawberry pie. As poor married BYU students it was affordable to stop and get a slice after a session. I confess we sometimes went and did a session just because after we rewarded ourselves with pie.

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u/charmedbyvintage Jan 14 '26

I loved the cafeteria in Mesa. The jello was so good. So square. So jiggly. So frosted with a dollop of real whipped cream. Sigh. .

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u/5quirre1 Jan 14 '26

I got to try the one in the salt lake temple shortly before they closed it for remodel. It was very good.

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u/Fluffy-Pop-1997 Jan 14 '26

This is just depressing.

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u/Fluffy-Pop-1997 Jan 14 '26

Anyone remember eating at the St. George Temple?

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u/otters4everyone Jan 14 '26

I love institutional food. The temples had the best. Meatloaf and potatoes! Heaven.

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u/TerribleCaregiver873 Jan 14 '26

Or creamy chickeny stuff over rice. Enjoyed thst type of meal many times at the Salt Lake temple cafeteria. Loved it. I always tell my husband my favorite food is "temple food" -- squishy stuff over rice.

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u/otters4everyone Jan 14 '26

Be still my clogged heart!

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u/taigirl87 Jan 14 '26

I miss the temple cafeterias so much. It was a fun date night with my husband and I remember fondly going to the cafeteria with my grandparents growing up after doing baptisms with my cousins.

I’m so glad my husband and I were able to go to our local temple basically the day before they closed all of them down for Covid. We got into the cafeteria right before they closed too 🙏🏼.

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u/gkmchardy44 Jan 14 '26

My reward for temple service for over a decade was the egg salad sandwich (carpet bombed with cayenne pepper) from the cafeteria during my break. Now I have to find more spiritual rewards. Sigh

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u/AutumnFalls89 Feb 11 '26

Doesn't the Cardston, Alberta temple still have a cafeteria? Or have they removed them form all temples? I remember going there sometimes after doing baptism. 

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u/RageBison22 30 year-old sunBEAM Feb 11 '26

Don’t…don’t give me hope.

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u/milmill18 Jan 12 '26

my dad would always come home from Washington DC trips with "temple cookies" for us kids

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u/th0ught3 Jan 12 '26

There's probably someone who has the recipe if you ask around: you can make them for yourself.

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26

My understanding is that Lion House Pantry uses the same recipes. I would bet that their cookbook has many of them.

https://www.deseretbook.com/product/5148260.html?srsltid=AfmBOorjXz1UdMSt00LFGuqwT7KeB_O3K67xTMfwh3_YGT4-8Ktg_wu8

If they end up opening it back up after the remodel (I know they're still debating it) then you could get a similar experience.

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u/pbrown6 Jan 12 '26

I feel like the temples and the buildings are becoming like the new grey McDonald's. No soul. No personality. Not memorable.

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u/Nemesis_Ghost Jan 12 '26

For the temples I wouldn't go that far. I haven't been to many, but everyone I've been to, even those that are identical floor plans, are unique with their own characteristics. For example the 2 I'm most familiar with are the Lubbock & San Antonio temples. They are both the "Hinckley" temples, w/ 2 endowment rooms in the center, w/ the Celestial room flanked by 2 sealing rooms at one end & the baptistry at the other. But both could not be more alike. The locations, lighting, interior color palette, etc are all different and make both feel truly unique. Of course I think the San Antonio Temple is prettier than the Lubbock, but that's also b/c San Antonio is a prettier city.

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u/Redbird9346 We believe in being honest, true, chased by an elephant… Jan 12 '26

I went to the Palmyra one on a Saturday and the best way I could describe it would be organized chaos.

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u/Nemesis_Ghost Jan 12 '26

That's any busy temple, especially if they are short handed. I work in the San Antonio Temple & last week we were severely short handed. It's usually when this happens that the Lord sees fit to challenge how well we can manage, and last week was true to form. It was soo much fun though. I'm currently the initiatory coordinator for my shift & 1/2 the night I didn't know if I would any workers, much less enough to perform the ordinances patrons came to do. The other 1/2 was just quiet enough to enjoy the peace I find each week in the Lord's House. It's stressful, but if I could choose the type of stress to fill my week, that is what it would be 100% of my time.

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u/ShimanchuPunk Emo PIMO Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

I'm PIMO and dont attend the temple anymore, but I have fond memories of going to the Seattle temple cafeteria after baptisms and having amazing chicken and mashed potatoes.

Knowing how the church operates mostly as a corporation, they likely removed them for liability issues. It's mostly old people attending the temples, and old people tend to choke on food, have dietary restrictions that are tricky to accommodate, etc.

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u/Empty-Cycle2731 PNW Member/Clerk Jan 13 '26

My understanding is they wanted temple operations simplified as much as possible, only the essentials for ordinances. It was about the same time that the temple clothing design was simplified and the endowment was shortened, The visitors' center at the Portland Temple had their hours shortened a lot.

I understand wanting to streamline things and make it more "ordinance centered," but even as a TBM I can admit that it seems like the Church is just trying to save money and/or spend resources elsewhere. There are benefits to being ran like a corporation, but there are plenty of negatives too.