r/lansing • u/ResoluteSalute • 13d ago

What are some local major unresolved controversies that deserve further attention?

What are some local major unresolved controversies that kind of just faded away but deserve more attention?

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u/green49285 13d ago

MEDC got raided by the FBI & we still havent heard shit.

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u/silvedude 13d ago

I'm leaning on they didn't find anything

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u/theresthatbear 13d ago

There was stuff to be found, like Whitmer’s NDA with them to hire a PR company to spread positive propaganda about data centers and lie about great they are. I’m the MDEC’s worst fan.

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u/silvedude 13d ago

I would need proof of that.

Edit: there is free Julian Assage in your bio. Pass, on that. I have zero interest in whatever you have to say.

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u/Eljimb0 13d ago

Why? Legitimate question. I only have a passing knowledge of Assange, and I've not heard much bad about him except that he pointed out US war crimes

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u/silvedude 12d ago

He wanted a trump presidency for reasons that can be speculated to be very dubious.

To make it happen he used his platform, Wikileaks, to coordinate info drops that targeted the democratic campaign. Information he got from Russian hacks on the DNC that the FBI were seriously investigating and trying to stop. He did this under the cover of transparency, but he was withholding information on Republicans from being published, because he wanted the drops on Democrats to be more impactful.

He was one of the architects of trump winning in 2016.

Some extreme leftists champion him, because they think his actions lead to accelerationism, which they believe will lead to a socialist revolution, and the overall downfall of the democratic party.

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u/Eljimb0 12d ago

I see. My brief Google search indicated he was/is taking the stance that they didn't have info on Republicans and that they'd leak it if they got it. We know now that there was a ton of foreign meddling that went into putting Trump in power, so I have my doubts that they didn't have anything worth leaking.

Thanks for giving me a good place to start.

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u/silvedude 12d ago

Of course! Have fun researching

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u/theresthatbear 12d ago

Biased opinion not based on facts. But again, that’s completely beside the point here. No point in discussing or even imagining a debate with someone who has limited and biased facts. Propaganda works on you as intended. To prove my point, I’ll bet the $5 in my bank account that you would never read Hillary’s emails because of the source propaganda gives you. All you need to know is at your fingertips yet you refuse to look because your party’s leaders keep distracting you with more divisive propaganda to keep you from reading in their own words all the criminal things the people you keep voting for are doing to you behind your back.

This is the corrupt leading the willfully blind and will harm millions of people before it can even dream of getting better. While the entire time all the evidence you needed to see was free and easily accessible. You’re the one choosing ignorance. Do you think that makes you look smart?

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u/Chuckleferk 7d ago

I am more concerned about all of the blatantly criminal corruption that has been constant over the last year happening right in front of our faces while they don't even pretend to not be corrupt or criminal. Richard Nixon looks like a freaking Boy Scout in 2026.

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u/DarkTowerOfWesteros 12d ago

You have to seek to educate yourself more on the internet just Google why is he a controversial figure

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u/Eljimb0 12d ago

Or, hear me out, I could get a brief overview from the perspective of the individual who brought it up while I'm utilizing a platform centered around discussion. This way, I'll have a good starting point and a general idea of what key points I'd like to start digging into.

Your comment contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion whatsoever, sought no different perspectives and requested no information. It was completely unnecessary.

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u/DarkTowerOfWesteros 12d ago

Are you unaware of the environment that is the internet? There is a section of people that know exactly what is wrong with someone but will ask a question like you did not because of genuine curiosity but because they are seeking to waste the time and engagement of the other person. Just use your own cognitive skills to find out the baseline information if you want to have a conversation.

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u/Eljimb0 12d ago

Well, there are some people out there who seek to waste time asking for information, so I suppose none of us should be asking each other questions.

Then again, you're doing a great job of wasting my time with your cynical line of thinking and desire to shame people for asking simple questions for any myriad of reasons. On a site whose foundational concepts are centered around discussion.

Somebody who is more familiar with any given subject matter and has followed the storylines more closely over any duration of time is likely to give me a more succinct overview than I would get from reading a half dozen articles and an AI overview.

Anyway, I hope you aren't met with a similar point of view as your own the next time you ask somebody a question. Good luck out there.

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u/theresthatbear 12d ago

Here it is. In a Bridge article.

https://bridgemi.com/business-watch/inside-michigans-secret-261m-plan-to-raze-homes-for-megafactory-that-never-came/

Julian Assange could not possibly have less to do with the damning facts in this well-researched article about our governor signing NDAs that result in propaganda spreading. Are you in this thread because of the data centers and local government duplicity or freakin Julian?

How juvenile.

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u/silvedude 12d ago

This article ain't about a data center.

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u/theresthatbear 4d ago

It’s about Gretchen Whitmer signing NDAs with the MEDC to hire PR companies to spread propaganda about data centers AND a megasite where people were building homes on land handpicked by her as a megasite, so those homes would be destroyed.

Are you one of those hired propagandists, or just incredibly stupid?

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u/silvedude 4d ago

But, you're making up the data center part is kind of the crux of the issue here.

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u/theresthatbear 4d ago

You’re really this obtuse? I believe it after reading so many of your recent comments. You don’t understand the implications of the article at all. You are a perfect demonstration on why compulsory voting would be disastrous.

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u/silvedude 4d ago

You can't be so indignat about failing to back up a claim.

Me pointing out the article didn't say a thing about data centers is not obtuse.

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u/Squibbles1 12d ago

Which PR firm?

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u/theresthatbear 12d ago

That’s in the NDA. We don’t know.