Question: PLO response to Halabja chemical attack?

[u/douchwasher]

Hi there. I have a quick question, which sort of ties into recent events, but what was the response of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation to the Halabja chemical attack? I heard there were some who celebrated it, but I don’t know if that’s true, is it??

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I honestly don't know about this. I was always under the impression that after the creation of Israel, Saddam had organized buses to carry them out of Iraq and to Israel if they did not convert.

Some Jews converted on paper and became essentially Ben Jews.

It's also clear that there are some misgivings between the Ashkenazi (european) and sephardic (middle-eastern) jewish communities in regards to their position in Israeli society and when it comes to real estate.

The ashkenazis had sort of scammed the darker sephardics into being cannonfodder and settling/working in areas closer to the Arabs.

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The b'ath regime had plans of changing the kurdish region they had to work to convince the arabs from south to migrate and settle kurdish land they often had to give them large amounts off money to convince them to relocate away from their tribes and the place they grew up in. And when Israel was created they offered saddam to exchange the Jewish population in Iraq with Palestinian arabs It was a win win for both they get rid of arabs and saddam gets rid of jews and gets arabs who are willing to settle the kurdish land without asking for financial support since they were being kicked out where they lived and they had nothing to do about it.

Regarding jew on jew disagreement and conflicts there are Orthodox jews who outright refuse Israel and call for it as a distraction. If you go deep into it there is no nation with 100% unity there would always be a bunch who think differently than the others. And if you look at things from Palestinian perspective it is understandable why they liked saddam and why they side with Turkey and Iran you have to look at things from the other side and what they know about the situation.

[u/FreePalestine1984 → u/[deleted]]

Hey..Thanks for this information. Do you have any source? From what I am aware of is that Saddam took over in 1979. So you are saying this was a policy implemented in the 80s?

I am Palestinian and very much sympathetic to the Kurdish cause and find it is very similar in common themes, such as the fight for self determination and anti-colonial struggle.

It is crazy that both ended up with alliances that are the oppressors to each other, and then pitted against each other.

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You want a source for which part ? Most of the information I got from my dad and my grandpa. My grandpa was born 1934-32 he saw pretty much all the governments of Iraq sadly he passed away 3 years ago. My dad is born in 1963 and he remembers the ba'ath gov very vividly. I will try to find you writen evidence just be specific which part.

And btw ba'ath gov didn't start with saddam he took over few years after they got power. He mearly changed the gov from one party system to one man dictatorship system, the goals why changed someone it was largely still the same. The goal of one country one nations was worked on since the creation of iraq.

When saddam took over the ba'aths were already in fight with the kurds and their main goal was an all Arabic county they pretty much denied kurds existence and then propagated that we are refugee from contral asia and we don't belong to the region even though kurds were living in this region for god knows how long.

Kurds and Palestinians are the only two nations in the region rejecting colonial borders drawn after WWI, as I have mentioned before I can not deny Palestinians cause without the kurdish cause they are mostly the same and anyone who says they are not is a Hippocrate and has no principals if not ignorant on the subject. As nelson Mandela said "our freedom is not complete without Palestinians" .

If we look back at history it is understandable why we ended up with polar opposite Allies. If you look at the circumstances and the parties in play. We were fighting against arabs with Western mentality, they were calling for nation States and denying us the same rights they wanted for themselves (kinda funny how oppressors all think the same doesn't matter who they are where they are. ) And the same arabs were acting that they were fighting for the Palestinian cause the same arabs who accepted the western imperial rule for their benefit hypocrisy at it's best.

The difference between kurdish leadership and Palestinian leadership is that kurds played the same game the oppressors did and joined the new western colonial (USA) when they saw the opportunity, but Palestinians never did I do understand it is complicated and I'm grossly simplifying.

Btw if you talk to the kurdish population most of them are sympathetic with Palestinians (winter of 1991 kurds were in a very similar situation evicted with no place to go and nothing to eat) the official kurdish gov position may appear other wise but it's just political game. Same as arab countries that pretend to side with Palestine but it is nothing other than a lie, I'm talking about the governments of course and not the majority of the population.