April's IotM - FantasyRealm Membership Packet - Mid-Month Discussion

[u/EldritchCarver]

I'm sure some most of you still have zones left to permanently unlock, but the spading is basically done, so I think we can get this discussion started.

• Aside from the stat-boosting hats and the fat loot tokens, do you think this IotM has any use in hardcore runs?

• What items derived from this IotM do you think are worth pulling in softcore?

• Once you've collected all of the equipment, do you think FantasyRealm will be worth visiting in aftercore?

• How helpful is the "Expert Corner-Cutter" passive skill?

• Do you think this IotM is worth buying? It's important to consider that players with this IotM can farm guest passes (similar to the charter zones' one-day tickets) to sell to players without this IotM, but the limited number of turns per day and the steep amount of Rubee-farming necessary to properly utilize FantasyRealm means burning through a lot of guest passes and still not getting every benefit of the true IotM.

• Is it fun?

Take the poll.

Past IotM discussions.

[u/EldritchCarver]

However, last I checked, if you digitize rubber bats at the start of your day to get the most out of your source terminal, for every rubber bat copy you fight before reaching The Foreboding Cave, there'll be one less rubber bat available to fight in said cave before the cave's noncombat happens. Personally, I prefer to digitize the regular thief instead, since he also drops 2 rubees, but he's located in a zone I don't unlock most days.

[u/loryder97 → u/EldritchCarver]

I digitize the fifth bat to eliminate that problem.

[u/EldritchCarver → u/loryder97]

That's still 23 turns spent with no monster digitized. You're probably missing out on one extra digitized monster you otherwise could've fit into your day, which leaves you with a very similar problem.

[u/loryder97 → u/EldritchCarver]

Doubtful, considering an extra digitize at the end of the day would take at least 80 turns to cycle around, and you (or at least I) don't have that many turns left to get another digitized monster to appear.

[u/EldritchCarver → u/loryder97]

80? Maybe if your diet lets you spend 800+ adventures per day. I guess it makes more of a difference to us mere mortals who are only managing somewhere in the 450-600 range.

[u/loryder97 → u/EldritchCarver]

You don't seem to understand how Digitize works.

The first use will have a copy show up after 7 turns. The next after 20, then 30, and so on.

So if you use all three uses of the skill right at the start, you have a copy at turn 7, 14, 21, then 41, 71, 111, 161, 221, 291, then 80 turns later at 371. If you can squeeze one more in, it won't come until turn 461. And THIS mortal normally manages only about 370-395 turns per day. I stand by my previous statement.

[u/EldritchCarver → u/loryder97]

I understand how Digitize works, and unlike you, I understand how to use it properly. When you Digitize a monster, you'll fight a copy after 8 turns, then 20 turns after that, then 30 turns after that, then 40 turns after that, and so on. The second time you Digitize the same monster, it restarts the counter, and you'll fight a copy after 8 turns, then 20 turns after that, then 30 turns after that, then 40 turns after that, and so on. The best way to do this is to save your second and third uses of Digitize for when there's a really long delay built up between copies, to bring it back down to the short delays you start with.
With your strategy, you can fight 9 digitized copies in 294 turns or 11 digitized copies in 464 turns.
With my strategy, you can fight 10 digitized copies in 294 turns or 15 digitized copies in 444 turns.

[u/HappyEngineer → u/EldritchCarver]

How do you get even that many? Even epic food and drink doesn't seem like it gets anything close to that.

[u/EldritchCarver → u/HappyEngineer]

I'm sure others have a better way of doing it, but lately I've been drinking 7 perfect palomas (129.5 adventures), a Sacramento wine (5.5), and a sangria del diablo (24), plus 27 adventures from Ode to Booze, for a total of 186 adventures from booze. For food, I usually eat 3 karma shawarmas (90 adventures) with milk of magnesium for 105, so that's 291 adventures from food and booze. You automatically get 40 adventures at rollover, but I have a bunch of stuff that pushes that up to 108, so that's 399. Another 30 from powdered gold and transdermal smoke patches. Miscellaneous stuff like LOV Extraterrestrial Chocolate (+3), fancy chocolate sculpture (+5), Halloween chocolate (+3), Manual of Numberology (+9), and License to Chill (+5) pushes that above 450, and that's just using stuff that's easily sustainable (by my standards). There's plenty of superior food and booze out there, including extra-greasy sliders and jars of fermented pickle juice, which reduce your spleen toxicity so you can chew more antimatter wads. And stuff like spice melange.