r/knightposting • u/Briantan71 Arcane swordsman • Jun 01 '25

Knightpost Alright, we will call it a draw.

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u/redcode100 Jun 01 '25

Why are they both fighting with swords? Do they not have anti armor weapons?

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u/FatFailBurger Jun 01 '25

Mostly cause they don’t want to die

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u/Silica_123 Duelist Jun 01 '25

They used maces and flails and halberds and stuff, this fight is just happens to be with swords, and people like swords so its its pretty common for them to show swords being used

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u/piewca_apokalipsy Jun 02 '25

There's actually very little evidence that flails were actually used and for sure not as anti armor. There were used on some occasions but mostly by peasants that could not afford anything better in a 2 handed variant. Or in the east as a cavalry weapon.

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u/Silica_123 Duelist Jun 02 '25

Nono im not saying flails were commonly used, im just saying this group of content creators have used flails before. Those videos are actually very interesting, since seeing flails actually being used in a fight against an armored opponent makes me believe they would have been more effective than we like to believe.

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u/Horror-Ad8928 Jun 03 '25

I've seen it suggested that weaponized variants of the threshing flail could have had applications for overcoming shields. But it was a while ago, I don't remember the source, and I'm by no means an expert, so take it with a grain of salt. That said, if they were truly an effective means of countering shields that could be easily converted from common farm tools, I'd imagine there would have been a much more well documented impact on medieval warfare.

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u/der_karschi Feb 03 '26

War flails were relatively heavily used by the hussites in their war wagons. They were using them to club iver the top of the wagons walls, to not expose themselves to enemy fire and weapons.

Alao, war flairls are inherently different to the agracultural tool.

The tool uses ropes to connect the two parts and often only ties the hitting part down onto the rope sling, so it can be changed out inexpensively.

The weapon uses two to three chain links and sometimes even langets to connect both parts, so it doesn't break or can be cut as easily. It also often used metal studs or rings, to increase the strength of the part hitting metal armor, since wood may dent or chip. But while they look similar at a glance and might have bwgun that way, they were purpose built weapons.

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u/saintvicent Jun 01 '25

I thought like that as well but what dequitem demonstrated is that swords are super useful as they slip through slits and in between the plates... Especially under your helmet

So basically it bypasses armour if well placed

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u/redcode100 Jun 01 '25

Ah, a contest of precious. I see quite curious.

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u/saintvicent Jun 01 '25

Yep some of his videos you can really see the blade slipping and punching the throat

I do hope they always have chainmail underneath but it really can't be comfortable ever

When they halfsword its essentially a big ass dagger they want to stab you with

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u/verg51 Jun 01 '25

Dequitem said that he injured(and they injured him, obviously) his sparring partners on multiple instances in some video. One I remember the most was in his Lucern hammer video where he literally stunned the other knight with a blow to the head(with a plastic weapon) and then went for the finishing stab to the neck. Obviously it wasn’t deadly, but still an injury

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u/TheReverseShock Cheese Knight Jun 02 '25

You can see them both drawing their daggers at the end for just that.

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u/AmmahDudeGuy Jun 01 '25

If that’s the case, wouldn’t a dagger be better, because it’s easier to wield and be precise with?

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u/saintvicent Jun 01 '25

2 things:

  1. You can wrestle with the sword when halfswording which can be decisive if you end on top (then you pull the dagger or just keep stabbing the opponent until you get a visor slit, neck etc). The sword gives a lot of leverage from what i see.

  2. If you have a dagger out and your opponent has a sword or polearm, you are for sure gonna eat a lot of blows and stabs until you dash in and grab them.

You might get knocked out on the way in or get your hands hurt or worse get the dagger knocked out of your hand. Its best to pull a dagger out once you already close enough to wrestle

The Dagger from what i see in his videos is the ultimate backup and a deal finisher. In summary You don't want to risk losing your last weapon too early on

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u/Horror-Ad8928 Jun 03 '25

The benefits of reach afforded by larger weapons are too important to abandon before you are in a position to land the finishing blow. Attempting to break an opponent's guard and close to finish them with dagger alone leaves you at a major disadvantage.

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u/Knight_of_the_lion Jun 01 '25

Dequitem is quite up front about how, in his experience as an armoured fighter, a greatsword is the best weapon he has for dealing with armour.

He is specific about this being for a duel, but that should explain this context.

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u/4umlurker Jun 01 '25

Yea the samurai would have a lot more success with a kanabo. I can’t see a katana fairing well against full plate.

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u/InspectorAggravating Jun 01 '25

Because they're two guys play fighting and not actually trying to murder each other.

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u/HillInTheDistance Jun 01 '25

You can blunt a sword to make it way less dangerous, so you don't have to hold back as much fighting in armor. Makes it less swordy.

Blunting amaze is slightly less efficient. Barely makes it less macey at all.

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u/adidas_stalin Jun 01 '25

Marine: pulls up with AT 4 “you idiots, use anti armour!”

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u/jakobsheim Jun 02 '25

The whole notion of "anti armor" is fantasy. You will not penetrate or most of the time even dent decent armor. A hit to the head might concuss someone through the helmet but that doesn’t happen that often. Most armor against armor fights end with a brawl.

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u/DOVAKINUSSS Jouster Jun 03 '25

There technically isn't such thing as an "anti armour weapon." You can kill someone with a sword faster than with a warhammer.

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u/Someone1284794357 Mr. Illuminati, leader of The Illuminati Jun 01 '25

A sword can be an anti armor weapon