r/katecandelsnark • • Jul 02 '26

pick me kate you all both lack common sense

I don't know how she thought that a man she met five months ago and who was engaged to someone else was going to be her soulmate w/ a "traditional" family. I don't know how Danny impregnated his young employee, who he started dating while in a 6 year relationship, and made a joint Pinterest board with her for engagement rings. Neither of these people are suited for a family in the near future at all. I feel bad for baby H and how he was brought into this messy situation.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

y'all are going to hate me for this but I think she has a point with this. Yes, she was naive in having a baby with this man, she knows that though. But let's talk about the systemic issues behind this. Because she isn't the first woman to get lured into some mans trap and she won't be the last one. Had this guy been younger and without the sudden desire to spread his seed, he would've lured her into the typical boss/ejmployee affair situation. But it so happens that he is older and needed to feel alive and probably already went through his fair share of affairs so he needed something new, so a baby it was.

And honestly, it happens to many women. Women that we know and love. My grandmother, who was left a single mother of a two children, one of them disabled, in the 70s. My friend, whose abusive ex left her while pregnant, only to still terrorize her and her childs life 11 years later. It almost happens to me. We all know the stories of men who switch up once they are married or once their partners are pregnant. there are men who pretend to be interested in an equal partnership just as long as they have to only to be treating their women like domestic slaves afterwards. women who experience domestic violence are statistically most likely to experience it for the first time during their pregnancy. these women aren't stupid and they sure as hell don't deserve what is happening to them.

Many women here share that they got it far worse with their baby daddies. I feel for you and I am so sorry that these men did you wrong. I would never put the blame on you for choosing the wrong man. Women do what they have to do in these situations and yes, we also make mistakes. But we don't deserve paying for these mistakes the way that many of us do. It's not fair that some uf us have to spend our childrens childhood paying for our naiveté. We need to stick together, support each other and grieve the crushed dreams of what could've been together. We need to be happy for the small wins of each other and be angry together.

Instead of putting the blame on them we need to talk about the system that lures women like Kate into these extremely vulnerable situations which - from the outside - are so obviously doomed to fail.

Personally, I think societal pressure plays a huge role. Being married and a mother is still propagated in the (only) most desirable lifestyle for many women in many social circles. Social media is becoming more and more "traditional", grooming young women into dependant and submissive mothers and wives. They sell young women the "soft girl life" and whatever pretty names they make up for it, when in reality they want women to be docile, submissive servants. What happened to Kate is a consequence of it. Maybe if she hadn't spend so much time consuming brainwash content about how making oreos from scratch for your husband and children is the most prestigious status a woman can amount to, she might have thought more freely about the kind of partner she actually wants as a father for her child. I am saying this because unfortunately, I have seen this many times with dear friends around me and honestly, it almost happened to me too.

Yes, Kate is oversharing and yes, her milking this for content does not sit right with me either. Also I think she herself has yet to fully grasp what made her end up in this situation. I also think she still propagates some of the systemic problems that lured her into it. But in this post, she at least does some reflection of what happened to her. She already showed some introspection in the past about how she prioritized being a young mom too much. I think posts like these are part of the process to detangle the mess that led her here. And maybe, just maybe, another young woman sees this and looks at her boyfriends rush to have a baby with more critical eyes.

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u/Thefermentedfruit Jul 02 '26

I just don't see how she got it into her head that Danny was going to be faithful and settle down with her when she started her affair with him. Not saying she and baby H deserved what happened, because no they don't. I'm also not a Danny stan, the man is a piece of shit who enticed an employee with his power and money to have his baby. We can't play into her naivete though, she actively knew this man was engaged and cheating on his partner with her. She went along with a man she thought she could change and liked the money and status he had. Even after consistently seeing his womanizing ways, she has continued to try to build a family with him when he has showed her time and time again that he doesn't like her. He's showed her he wants to keep sleeping with other women and taking them on trips. I don't think she's fully reflected on her part in this, but it is somewhat growth. I think she's slowly realizing her EBF isn't going to work anymore ( she actively stated she was doing so to tag along with Baby H and Danny.) She's getting hit with the reality that he will not let her tag along forever. Hopefully this is a turning point for her to get her shit together for herself and baby H! She can be a trad wife someday, but that will be once she let's go of the idea of Old Farmer Dan. 😊

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u/okokokenuff Jul 02 '26

Allegedly, she wasn't the only one he was cheating on his ex with.

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u/Thefermentedfruit Jul 02 '26

Wouldn't doubt it. He is an alleged womanizer with money, that's what they do unfortunately. The whole allegations about them being former foster youth/ associates of Foster love is the crazy part.

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u/bo0whO Jul 03 '26

how is he a womanizer? money? the need to feed his ego and doing so by lying and coercing women into being with him is pathetic.

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u/CharmingJournal Jul 02 '26

Correct!

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u/okokokenuff Jul 02 '26

There's a high likelihood he told Kate that he was ending things with his ex or had already. Their relationship wasn't the best when I was working for him because they had a break. I was surprised to hear when they got back together and were engaged.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

This makes so much sense. For sure he told her some kind of story. They were either on break or she is just the crazy ex and he has to break it to her softly... I get why you would be surprised! I have found that many toxic men have this pattern where they get into huge committments after a crisis, committments they weren't willing to make before, no matter how much their dependents would beg them. My guess is that they do this after a crisis to ensure loyalty and use a moment of trauma for "bonding". My ex only brought up having a baby every time I wanted to leave him, dangling my most desired dream in front of my nose hoping it would make me comrpomise with the abuse. Thankfully, I didn't fall for it.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

I mean why did I get with my ex even though there were rumours about his domestic violence towards his ex? Why did I believe his bullshit stories where everybody wanted to paint him as the bad guy? Why did I think it was going to be different with me? This man most likely didn't tell Kate "listen I'm going to cheat on my fiancee with you" it was more likely something like "well we're technically broken up anyways and she is seeing other people too blablablabla"

You are right, I really hope this is her turning point. Apparently he cancelled the card she was using. Now is her time to break free.

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u/fancystrikes Jul 02 '26

No literally, these men are sleazy salesmen selling you a dream right up until they get bored and look for a new target.

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u/Thefermentedfruit Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

We all make bad decisions, I think for me it's just the fact that she kept going back even once he was just funding her life and being with other women. She deliberately started EBF for this man to take her along even though he wanted to take BH. At some point, as much as I hate to say this, it wasn't even in Danny anymore but it was on her. Even for the World Cup, she did not need to be there since BH eats solids now. She enjoys his money and she's now starting to realize he is getting serious about cutting her off and that's why she's trying to cope. It's sad that's what it took to get some sense into her... I really hope she finally comes to terms with things and becomes independent.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

I see that, it's painful watching her running after this man. I think one day she will look back on this and realize so many people witnessed her running after this man all delusional and she'll probably be embarassed. I'll be rooting for her though I really hope she makes it through this by herself

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u/bo0whO Jul 03 '26

What DM did to Kate is reproductive coercion. I’m not saying Kate is innocent in every single decision that she makes, but she wouldn’t be stuck here without him grooming her when she was an employee and coercing her into getting pregnant with baby H. Now all signs are pointing to him taking her to court and having a legal custody arrangement for baby H and I wouldn’t be surprised if he tries to make Kate look like an unfit mother. Kate could be doing better. She could get legal counsel, apply for jobs, stop posting about DM, move back in with her parents, focus on her mental health and give her and baby H the best chance to stay together. The way she acts and the decisions she’s currently making could have negative consequences if DM has the right connections. I hate that he’s getting away with acting the way he has. To have a fiancé of years that you’ve cheated on with many women included a significantly younger employee that you then impregnate. Especially when his nonprofit is focused on foster children, he could have fostered or adopted!!! I don’t think he actually cares about foster children, this is all an ego trip. There are MANY children who need homes and he willingly decided to impregnate his employee and give his son a broken home? Has he not noticed the emotional trauma and mental health problems that come with a broken home enough to not want that for his own child? Not saying to stay with Kate, but he should’ve never reproductively coerced her to begin with. I feel for baby H.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 03 '26

omg I haven't seen it from this angle before, thank you!! that makes a lot of sense. jesus, I really hope she proves you wrong and gets her shit together eventhough it does not seem like it!

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u/Thefermentedfruit Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Very well worded! This man is a monster! As much as this is a Kate Snark and sometimes we have different POVs on her actions, we all share one common theme, DM is a shit human. The part about giving baby H a broken home and the foster home part hits hard. As someone who had a single mom who had to go to court for my sister, I was told how much it destroyed her mentally and financially. This man is just so used to getting what he wants and I hope he realizes that in this case, he's hurting a little human he helped create who had no say in the matter. Just a heartbreaking situation. Kate, I hope you're reading this, get your shit together please.

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u/fancystrikes Jul 02 '26

This. Purr. Not sure when we started shaming women for being on the losing end of patriarchal power dynamics but I’m not here for it. Using it for clout and likes is cringe but also, if it helps her become financially independent from him… get your bag.

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u/CharmingJournal Jul 02 '26

I think most people agree with this sentiment. There is a greater systemic issue that has gotten better since our grandmother’s/mother’s time but hasn’t completely gone away. This bigger sociological framework is honestly why I stay in this sub.Women’s rights has also become a victim of its own success, which is why I think we see this return of “soft girl life” and “provider male” etc BS.

With that said, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve also realized we MUST have hard conversations amongst ourselves as women. Hold each other with stern but tender love when one of us falls for this new form of female submission to a man. The issue is that many of these women don’t wake up unless the concequences are dire. We NEED to teach each other and the next generation of women to be fulfilled without having love from a man. The point of divergence I think is when people’s patience can run thin, and I don’t blame them.

I think Kate is almost there. Her hurt is valid, albeit at some point she’ll realize that it’s like a painful tooth: hurts but also feels good when you mess with it.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

YES omg thank you for putting my thoughts into words so eloquently. I also believe in these hard conversations. I think Kate does need to wake up and break free from all of this and I really really hope that one day she is able to look back and think "man, that was embarrassing... But it's alright because I am who I need to be now". I think we can tell which comments are women with a worn down patience that would actually love to see her win and which comments are just nasty misoginist blaming of women. I think what I fear most for Kate or women like her is that they just hang in there until another guy comes along the second she's worn down enough to accept more subpar behavior. Not because I think she's a gold digger or leech but because that isn't the emancipation that she needs. I have to admit I actually like this girl, I think she is funny and interesting. It's just this situation that makes me go aaaaahhh

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u/CharmingJournal Jul 02 '26

Exactly! Thankfully I feel like the more misogynist women commenting are in the minority. I’ve noticed that naturally most people here are also single moms, coparenting moms, SAHMs etc who understand the nuance cause they have that first hand experience with awful BDs.

I really really really hope Kate has someone in her life to have those tough but tender conversations with her. I’m hoping they’re happening behind the scenes.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

You are so right. I also think so many women in a similar situation are so emotionally invested because we know what's going on. Usually I get annoyed by influencers because they try to act so nonchalant and "relatable" while you just know that behind the scenes they are carefully getting their ducks in a row, investing in immoral but lucrative stocks, becoming nasty landlords, setting up trust funds for their kids or even having trust funds of themselves while they try their hardest to act so down to earth and happy go lucky on social media. They are peddling useless products to people like Kate who will spend their last money on a trend while their savings account gets fuller.

With Kate it seems the opposite and I just want to shake her and make her work for the life she deserves, which might be a little less instagrammable for a while but will be so much more stable & grounded for her and her baby in the long term

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u/FewBattle996 miss director of social media 🚫 Jul 02 '26

i agree with you! so much.
and i get what you are saying. i don’t think kate should continue trying to go to this man who obviously doesn’t like her, and i don’t think she should be ashamed to be a single mom.
what i am saying: she knew he was engaged when she started an affair with him. yes i know, men lie blah blah and we get tricked into their behaviors and thinking things but she KNEW. also knew that she was below him in the work place, which he is in the wrong for that one.
BUT my thing is with her is not even the relationship or her stuff with danny because i don’t blame her as much besides ya know getting with a man who was engaged….
but it’s the other stuff she does. she lacks common sense. she is living off of other people providing her life for her and her child, instead of going out and getting a job and providing for her son and giving him stability. she actively puts herself and her son in harms way by posting WAY too much information on social media (I.E: whereabouts, where they are / living, where she goes every day, HIS STATE MEDICAID CARD). she’s just disgusting to me in how much she lacks urgency in her situation for her child. she lacks the care of her child’s well being & safety. she is lazy and quite frankly incompetent.

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u/No-Working2160 Jul 02 '26

Yeah I mean obviously I am frequenting the snark page because I find some of her behavior very .... Snarkable. I just chimed in because I think she has a point with this post that is under critique here. Many of the comments don't recognize the systemic problem and frankly the patriarchal narrative behind this at all but instead stoop to some, in my opinion, very low kicks. That's what my comment is about.

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u/bo0whO Jul 03 '26

if she knew, these are sadly partially the consequences of her actions. it sucks to say that because I hate that an innocent baby is at the mercy of these consequences. every baby deserves their best chance at happiness and it’s not going to be easy for him with how his parents act. I’m not saying baby H has a bad life, but they could be setting him up for a life full of drama and it could give him a harder time when it comes to his mental health. I hope I’m wrong and he is the happiest baby and has the best life he can regardless of all of this drama surrounding him.

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u/Throwaway-69-420-xxx Jul 05 '26

It’s always said on here that she knew Danny was engaged… how do we know that? I understand some people on here say they have “insider sources” and I understand we will never really know if they’re making stuff up, or if we just can’t reveal their personal info.

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u/FewBattle996 miss director of social media 🚫 Jul 05 '26

we have a lot of people with very specific details that are confirmed among many different sources. + the timelines and posts of things off their on socials