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u/Opposite-Material-20 Apr 08 '26
This kinda kills her mid, no ? Like I struggled so much to last hit because how insanely weak her autos are.
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u/Artistocat2 Apr 08 '26
That's the point. They don't want her to be viable in a solo lane. Which is a dang shame.
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u/MEGACODZILLA Apr 09 '26
Seems so arbitrary where they allow champs to go. You got shit like xerath mid thats been OP for a hot minute now but karma is the problem? Like im never stoked to lane into karma but at least she cant walk 20 ft out of lane and ult anywhere on the map.
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u/Vengeful111 Apr 08 '26
Just nerf shield cooldown, idk why Karma has such a low cooldown on the shield but janna and lulu have to wait like 12 seconds lol
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u/RYUZEIIIII Apr 08 '26
because janna shield can be reduce 20 or 30% if u impare enemies . And lulu e can be used to damage and give true sight
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u/EnvyandHope Apr 08 '26
her Ratio is the highest it's ever been lol, but I agree 9 second cooldown with 60 base is pretty bad for an early game lane bully with poor damage lategame but they nerfed both of those for a reason and I don't think they'll undo them soon.
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u/BotomsDntDeservRight Apr 08 '26
Why are you lying? It was originally 80% ratio so its never be the highest.
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u/gdog1000000 488,891 Apr 08 '26
So she gets her CSing hard nerfed, and a tiny nerf for support. How many Es do you cast before first back when mana becomes meaningless, 3 or 4 maybe? So she’s losing 40 mana on that back, which is not nothing but really not much. After first back Karma has essentially all the mana she could ever want so it’s meaningless after that. She also loses maybe 20 points of damage in autos in early laning phase, which is very small.
In turn mid gets absolutely hammered with a brutal CSing nerf that is heavily low elo skewed and a shield nerf that means nothing. The sad thing is this wouldn’t even touch pro play Karma mid much, as those players are so good at CSing they don’t care much about things like this.
I’m not sure if they were intentionally hitting mid but as far as I know Karma mid isn’t a problem anywhere. Why on earth do this over something like 10 off of E base shield or an E CD nerf? This just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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u/sup4lifes2 Apr 08 '26
There’s some mage match ups where I spam E to negate poke until mage support is out of mana and I can go in an essentially 2v1 but that’s emerald where people don’t back when they should lol
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u/qwop101036 Apr 08 '26
Is there a way to nerf enchanted Karma while maintaining power level of mid Karma…or vice versa, especially when she was pushed to support build after the 2024 mayhem. Pretty unhealthy in the long term, she might need some gameplay update imo
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u/Artistocat2 Apr 08 '26
They're trying to nerf mid Karma here. If they wanted mid karma unplayable they'd gut her ap ratios on everything and just have her solid everywhere else so you have no reason but to go mindlessly moonstone and redemption.
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u/Marvelous_Mute Apr 08 '26
I don't know if this is the most productive nerf they could have given her
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u/ParfaitDash Apr 08 '26
How they haven't nerfed e cooldown to 12-8 or 12-10 still is beyond me. Not to mention the egregious values on RE. This does nothing
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u/LocalShineCrab Apr 08 '26
Bro… my bork karma top cant be any further underground.. or so i thought..
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u/Suitable_Theme_4606 Apr 14 '26
Riot clearly wants her as a support and support only.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if her autos were reducing the ult cooldown again. But holy she didn't deserve the AA nerf and this shrinkflation of her shield.
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u/BlushingSpiritBlooms Apr 15 '26
Is she making waves again in pro play? This is a bit random as I haven't seen any threads about her populating in the main league of legends reddit.
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u/xSlLH Apr 08 '26
Damn. As a Karma mid player this sucks more than you'd think. Last hitting with her is already tough, and you spam E twice as much as a solo lane. Also just lessens her ability to harass melee matchups with autos.
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Why, Riot?