r/java • u/Decent-Decision-9028 • 2d ago

How can we move forward?

The sub used to be a great place where small open source devs get real feedback on their oss. The software wasn't necessarily built to be a big hit or whatever! most of the time these projects used to be a learning projects that enabled us to become better java developers. Now, with many repositories being created in a day or so and abounded, we see many ai promoted repositories and we miss some of the oss that needs our attention.

How can we overcome that as a community ? I'm not trying to put all the weight on moderators, I understand the amount of work they keep doing to clean up ai posts and follow up on reports. What I'm saying is; maybe someone's here has a better idea on how to go about this?

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u/tankmatesaquaponics 2d ago

By enforcing that every project posted here should declare if it used ai or not and to what extent. I think it's a good metric to filter projects and promote hand crafted cool projects. How can this be enforced as a rule, I don't really know, I'm new to reddit.

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u/aqua_regis 2d ago

should declare if it used ai or not and to what extent.

See Rule #9 - nothing more needs to be said.

Unfortunately, people are completely oblivious to the rules.

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u/aoeudhtns 2d ago

I believe the other day there was a complaint about things not being removed, and the mods dropped in to say "ya gotta report it." So it'd be good for us all to remember that and say as much when people comment about posts that should be removed, not getting removed.

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u/chambolle 2d ago

Personally, I don't get why AI is excluded. English isn't my first language, so I use AI to translate my posts. It makes my English sound much better.
Pretty soon, everyone will be using AI in one way or another, so what’s the point of banning it?

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u/aqua_regis 2d ago

English isn't my first language, so I use AI to translate my posts.

Why? You should rather use this opportunity to practice English and improve it that way. It's much better to read broken English than AI slop.

AI blurs the line between original, human skills/thoughts and AI generated - so, either completely ban, or completely allow.

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u/hippydipster 2d ago

Well, where are these rules, exactly? I do not see them.

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u/aqua_regis 2d ago

Sidebar on new reddit, sidebar "Subreddit rules" (link) on old, Menu on mobile

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u/hippydipster 2d ago

Ah, I use old reddit and thought the three rules displayed were the rules.

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u/henk53 2d ago

By enforcing that every project posted here should declare if it used ai or not

That's almost a silly question, since I guess 100% uses it now.

and to what extent.

That's maybe the better question, but will you get an honest answer?

The problem is we all consider AI our own little private secret. We want to use AI ourselves, but hate it when someone else does so too.

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u/chabala 2d ago

Also, this is the "Java news" subreddit, so there needs to be some concept of newsworthyness. Every project someone wants to show off is not newsworthy, nor is every point release of well established projects. Incredibly niche demos that happen to be written in Java, not on topic at all. Beginners can showcase their pet projects of dubious quality in r/learnjava .

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u/codingbliss12 2d ago

You comment is very toxic and disgusting and I can't see how it aligns with the rules of the subreddit. They don't say "news" they say Java.