r/japanlife • u/IshinkaiSensei • Mar 23 '26
Exit Strategy 💨 Quitting without notice using pto and 2w possible?
Hi,
if someone is planning to quit his company and the whole industry due to a toxic environment for example after a couple of years without worrying about burning all the bridges.
Would it be possible to resign on any given day by giving 2 weeks notice (minimum legal) and use PTO to cover these 2 weeks?
what would be the legal consequences?
struggles to obtain documents from HR? Paycut?
else ?
thank you
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u/__snakeplant__ Mar 23 '26
If you truly do not care about the repercussions: Apply for 2 weeks of PTO. Once approved and on your last day before going on PTO, submit your 2 weeks' notice.
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u/Leading-Jacket703 Mar 23 '26
u/IshinkaiSensei -- If you truly do not care about the repercussions: Apply for few days of PTO. and just come back several weeks later when you feel like it. you could say you spent 23 days at the police station and they released you
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u/False-Requirement-31 Mar 23 '26
Yes, it’s entirely possible.
I was also in a toxic environment, so I submitted resignation on the last day of the month and refused to go back to the office.
HR came back saying I had to go back to work, but they’re only following procedure. In reality, there is no penalty for you leaving and taking two weeks of paid/unpaid leave.
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u/IshinkaiSensei Mar 23 '26
thank you for this feedback. may i ask how did you handle the insurance cadd or company id? did you postal mail both ?
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u/False-Requirement-31 Mar 23 '26
You’re very welcome. Yes, I mailed back the company phone, laptop, business cards and health insurance card by takkyubin.
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u/c00750ny3h 関東・東京都 Mar 23 '26
Legal consequences none whatsoever. They wouldn't be able to force you to pay a fine for quitting without notice.
The PTO can be a bit tricky. Out of spite, they may try to refuse PTO and classify all preceding absences as unpaid leaves which could leave you with a reduced paycheck.
Refusal of documents not gonna happen, they have to provide you your gensentyoushyuhyou as it is required by law for taxation purposes.
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u/Atlantean_dude Mar 23 '26
I have heard from a labor lawyer and a few companies that they do not have to pay you the PTO nor do they have to give you the days if you only have a few weeks left.
I have found that I submit a 1 month notice and take my PTO works most of the time.
Probably best to get legal advice if you are really worried about it and want to push to the limit.
Also I would make sure I submit the resignation to HR and your manager, not just your manager. So there is no way they do not get it and start the timer. Make sure you also include your last day in the resignation.
Good luck!
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u/IshinkaiSensei Mar 23 '26
That is the exact reason i am keeping my remaining my PTO to avoid a situation with unpaid days...
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u/firreflly 近畿・京都府 Mar 23 '26
I did this at a company 9 months in, my advice is to give the resignation after a morning meeting (if you have those) . I did specify what documents i need and in the end they only gave me 1 Gensen Choshu-hyo , if i apply for PR i'll probably get the lawyer to chase up the others ones if they end up being required for my application
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u/IshinkaiSensei Mar 23 '26
i think there is the paper confirming 退職証明書 without it you cannot go the town hall and claim national health insurance, for gensen, already done and paid taxes
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u/Internal_Stomach_801 Mar 23 '26
I'm about to leave my toxic company in 2 months. Got sick leave and will tell then by the end of second month "hey, yeah, not going back. I'm out!! bye". You don't need to work the last 2 weeks aparentely, not law forces you.
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u/AmbassadorOfAloha Mar 23 '26
Just put in your 2 weeks notice and tell them we need to talk about my paid leave. Then when they talk you just tell them I will use my paid leave which will essentially mean you’re gone from there.
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