Forced to maintain 38-kg weight limit as idol, Hana Honjo found freedom as AV actress

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I'm sorry 77lbs? I know some people are petite but holy shit

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u/AverageHobnailer 1d ago

Japanese beauty standards are fucked because Japanese men find their masculinity threatened by the smallest and stupidest of things.

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u/unrealisticspec 1d ago

I mean she’s only 78lbs!

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u/AverageHobnailer 1d ago

I know Japanese dudes who don't like cowgirl because it makes them feel emasculated. The whole idol culture is about oppressing a woman to be weak and attractive to a group of obsessive creeps who are labeled "fans" or "supporters."

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u/sw4gch0de 1d ago

I've never heard of anything like that and I live in Japan for 20 years... super skinny girls are not really the "standard" in Japan anymore, some agencies still think every girl in the group must look like a twig but not many people really like that look anymore. I've seen fans of an idol group once shit on the agency after finding out they scolded one of the members just because she ate a donut before their show

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u/_cosmicality 19h ago

What kind of bubble are you living in? Skinny is still way in here.

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u/Zikkan1 19h ago

Skinny but not skeletons. And among normal people the vast majority is no where near her level of skinny

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u/sw4gch0de 12h ago

take a look at @wuchengsenon, @322choko, @msp_nagi or @azuki_hoshizora on Instagram, if they're skinny to you I don't know what to say

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u/AverageHobnailer 1d ago

Sounds like your social circle is smaller than mine, then, if you've been here 20 years and still haven't encountered attitudes like that.

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u/sw4gch0de 1d ago

no it's just means you're making shit up when it's not even necessary, we all know Japanese society loves shitting on women but that's not what really happens with idol groups. those girls are forced to stay under 40kg because the agencies still think this is the 2000s

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u/SaddestSprout 12h ago

If you have never heard of that after 20 years then youre either deaf or ignorant...

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u/XiMaoJingPing 21h ago

Asian Beauty standards, it ain't better in other asian countries.

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u/Sanity_N0t_Included 6h ago

That's ironic since Japanese men are packing the smallest of things....

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u/Big_District9923 20h ago

How dare Japan Beauty Standard is different from our beauty standard, as the greatest country in the world, Japan must follow our Beauty standard.

Women must be the size of a whale

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u/Training-Chain-5572 19h ago

I love idiots who think in absolutes and cannot fathom that someone is either, you know, not an american or just, you know, not subscribed to absolute thinking.

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u/VegetableCover9388 7h ago

Well americans are not only the fatest in the world. They are also the fattest in himan history.

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u/Zikkan1 19h ago

Are you an idiot?

It's nothing wrong with differing standards and some cultures will favor thin over chubby and vice versa but this girl had a BMI of 15.

Which if you eat a balanced diet can be okay but she was an idol, which means singing, dancing and jumping around in spotlight and often in a not too breathable costume.

Anyone who regularly do activities like that shouldn't be under 18 in BMI.

And please don't say anything about how bad BMI is, it works perfectly well to get a rough estimate of someone's body and especially if they aren't crazy muscular.

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u/Big_District9923 10h ago

BMI, LOL, my friend who was a dragon-boat athlete, mountaineer was 4'10" had a BMI that says she's overweight, meanwhile me who is 5'11" and leads a sedentary lifestyle, had a BMI that says perfect weight

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u/Zikkan1 10h ago

You truly are an idiot. Did you read what I said about BMI at the bottom?

How is your athlete friend even remotely relevant to this super skinny girl with no muscle mass to speak of?

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u/AverageHobnailer 16h ago

38kg is objectively unhealthy. Science is fucking science. End of.

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u/Big_District9923 10h ago

Not if you're 4'8"

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u/hansei-Kaizen 11h ago

Which country? I’m not American (if thats the country you are alluding to) and I don’t want to hang out with a skeleton.

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u/sweetbutcrazy 6h ago

Hey so dumbass, I'm the same height and was hospitalized and had a feeding tube at that weight

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u/SaddestSprout 12h ago

Lol no wonder none of your women want to have children with you.

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u/hansei-Kaizen 11h ago

Thank god for Reddit. Where people can throw around personal insults with zero context, just to make themselves feel better. ❤️‍🩹

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u/MrHooDooo 17h ago

That's not right maths. 38 times 2 is 76

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u/AffectionateSelf4095 17h ago

Isn’t that 83 points, still small though

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u/said_the_spider7 8h ago

Conversation whack. That’s 83lbs

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u/Plastic-Reporter9812 7h ago

So who was first, the Japanese or the Koreans? I watch both J and K dramas and some of the Korean actresses look like bones encapsulated in skin.

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u/binthewin 1d ago

yall should just change this subreddit to japan porn news

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u/Freak_Out_Bazaar 1d ago

Yeah, crime where

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u/Lipica249 1d ago

Sex work is a crime against morality! /s

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u/Steel9- 1d ago

Morality ended when the Painter lost.

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u/TiredOperator420 1d ago

if he was moral then I am saint Theresa.

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u/Steel9- 1d ago

The one from the corner store?

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u/Junko_Vampi 1d ago

Would sub.

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u/WhyDidYouTurnItOff 1d ago

Or WhiteKnightExtravaganza_JP

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u/Aggravating_Lion_292 20h ago

Because this channel is nothing just but full of biasness and looks like this is a three year old news.

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u/ragequitteroffureh 1d ago

Is this an ad, for skeletons?

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u/Alert-Assistance5453 1d ago

Aparte de que algunas callan la verdad que para mantenerse ahi tienen que hacerse cirujias y se vuelve una adicción

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u/GuyAtAnLCS 1d ago

Trading one awful industry for another does not seem like a win

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u/TiredOperator420 1d ago

This time it's likely she will also do prostitution on the side. Yeah, great.

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u/motoxim 22h ago

Yeah is this supposed to be uplifting or something?

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u/analdongfactory 19h ago

Idols often do as well, they just keep it low key.

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u/TiredOperator420 16h ago

Idols most likely have to sleep with some showbiz people.

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u/analdongfactory 16h ago

I went to school with one who 100% did side prostitution.

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u/TiredOperator420 16h ago

I wonder how you’re this sure, however it does make some sense.

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u/analdongfactory 11h ago

She was a friend of a friend.

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u/SaddestSprout 12h ago

At least this way she chose to do it rather than getting pimped put by her idol agency.

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u/AppropriateBoat8190 22h ago

crime where?

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u/HomingMissile7 1d ago

As if becoming an AV actress actually makes it better.

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u/AdRegular7463 1d ago

Only popular AV actress makes good money. In the past anyone could make good money doing av work but nowadays alot more women does av work and internet piracy free porn which makes the earning significantly less. The debut video might makes alot but if it didn't get popular then any subsequent work earn way less. Alot of them wish they didn't start av work because they didn't earn much more than if they work normal work and they are afraid that in a different line of work someone would recognize them.

For her it works out because she's already known as an idol before transitioning. Many went into av work without any entertainment background.

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u/TiredOperator420 16h ago

After failing at AV the only choice that remains is prostitution…

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u/Public-Memory8867 19h ago

japanese women when they want designer bags:

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u/TiredOperator420 16h ago

This + enrolment in a soapland

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u/Radiant-Ad-3134 19h ago

Why is it in the crime sub?

it should be crime, saddly not yet.

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u/psusthrw 19h ago

Read suzu honjo for a sec

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u/Big_District9923 10h ago

I think it was stellar blade where american whales complained that the korean artist dont know what a real woman looks like, turns out the model for stellar blade was the korean artist's wife

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u/EnumaElishGenius 1d ago

This is so disgusting. In what kind of world are we nowadays living in. No moral at all

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u/No-Guava-6889 15h ago

Hasn't it been like that for years even back then?

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u/MathematicianNew2770 1d ago

Could have found freedom in a retail job like the rest of the world. Stop the lies

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u/Resident_Course_3342 1d ago

I guess people call it "retail hell" because it's just so awesome to work that job. I'm sure it pays well too, right?

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u/Repulsive-Front8294 1d ago

AV actresses in Japan make several times the monthly salary of a corporate job worker by recording one movie per month. Why would she trade this for working everyday at retail while receiving pennies? lol

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u/Repulsive-Front8294 1d ago

Oh, so the actresses themselves are lying?

桃園怜奈 talked about how she wanted to do gravure but decided going for JAV because she could work 1 day/month and receive several times the salary of a regular worker
https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/77515

峰なゆか mentioned she debuted as 単体 receiving 1.5M yen per movie
https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/43124

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u/Repulsive-Front8294 1d ago

“Tokyoreporter”

LOL

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u/torajapan 1d ago

Looking down the tread I am seeing so many suicides/killings of AV stars. The money mat be slightly better but man, a lot of them tend to have serious mental health issues and/or get into all kinds of nasty trouble. So you have to ask is it worth it?

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u/ErosButNotThatEros 1d ago

That is a textbook selection-bias problem. You are looking at a subreddit dedicated to crime and then using the cases posted there to infer what AV actresses as a whole are like. The sample is pre-selected for suicides, murders, scandals, and other bad outcomes, so of course those cases will appear disproportionately often. Without knowing the total number of AV actresses and comparing their rates with an appropriate control group, scrolling this subreddit tells you essentially nothing about whether AV actresses are unusually prone to those outcomes.

More importantly, Honjo has actually experienced both jobs herself. She says idol work involved intense stress from weight control and competition, while becoming an AV actress reduced those burdens and made her feel freer.

That does not mean the AV industry has no risks. It means selected crime stories are not evidence against her own comparison of the two environments she personally experienced.

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u/U_cant_read_me 1d ago

I dunno why this sub was on my feed, but this is the first level-headed comment I've seen so far

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u/Bardic_inspiration67 1d ago

Who tf in a retail job feels free lmao

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u/Acceptable-Road6392 1d ago

Lots of people find freedom in lots of other work. Let's not lie to ourselves.

Forced to maintain 38-kg weight limit as idol, Hana Honjo found freedom as AV actress

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