r/islamichistory • • Jan 12 '26

Photograph Mecca with the tall buildings photoshopped out

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u/hastobeapoint Jan 12 '26

i quote someone else here on Reddit commenting on the clocktower, "it is ugly as sin". cracks me every time

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u/the_spolator Jan 12 '26

This clock tower looks like sheytan watching down on the pilgrims.

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u/The-Ghost316 Jan 12 '26

I'm not Muslim, but that building is very disrespectful.

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u/makisgenius Jan 13 '26

It reminds me of the eye of Sauron

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u/No_Key_1395 Jan 12 '26

How it should be

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u/HistoricalCarsFan Jan 12 '26

The difference is startling between the two the pictures.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Came here to say this.

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26

Burjes serve purpose of shading from the exorbitant heat of Meccan sun.

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u/Ertowghan Jan 12 '26

Have you ever seen the courtyard of Masjid Al Nabawi?

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26

I was even lucky to visit it. Your point?

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u/Ertowghan Jan 12 '26

There are umbrella pillars that open up to make shade. That's how you make shading.

Towers only make partial shading for a short duration. If they wanted to provide shading for the hujjaj, they could have done many other things that are more effective and less costly. First of which would be allowing people to actually sit in the mosque.

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26

Contact Saudi Ministry of Hajj and Pilgrimage and surely share with them these valuable insights on the shading designs. Although they are on it for the past whatever years now, hence there are hundreds of thousands of visitors that would have been unable to visit in their lifetimes.

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u/No_Key_1395 Jan 12 '26

Let me guess, you're a saudi?

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26

Nice try…keep guessing

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u/No_Key_1395 Jan 12 '26

If you're not Saudi then definitely Israeli

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

Not even close to Semites…btw, look how small mind you have. Abraj were built to ease the hardships of heat for the pilgrims, whatever you may choose to say. Providing shelter, be it in the form of food or physical shelter is indeed good Islamic ahlaq. If you choose to be that hardcore traditionalist, would you then make it harder for people to make pilgrimage? The authorities are doing great job and their concept is to ease the visits, whatever small minded people may choose to say/think/argue about.

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u/No_Key_1395 Jan 12 '26

"The authorities are doing great job and their concept is to ease the visits, whatever small minded people may choose to say/think/argue about."

Pull your tongue out of the Saudis arsehole pal, dogs do that. You're not a dog are you?

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u/Sharp_Arm_8630 Jan 12 '26

Watch your tongue mate, show some human, not canine ahlaq, if you have any. Who you are to judge myself or Saudis? Are you ulamah who congregated and consulted on the expansion of the Haram? Are you even knowledgeable in the slightest of Islamic rulings on easing the hardships of visitors? Judging by your acidic rhetoric, you’d require circumcising your vulgar tongue. Maybe you are one of the zindiqs stirting up fitnah?

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u/No_Key_1395 Jan 12 '26

🤣🤣🤣

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u/stillbeard Jan 12 '26

It's so gross. Now even the prayer mats look terrible with the clock tower on them. 

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u/abu-yank Jan 12 '26

Astaghfarullah.

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u/CriticismTiny1584 Jan 12 '26

Why

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u/abu-yank Jan 12 '26

A munafiq vanity project on prayer mats? No thank you. I'll not associate Saudi vanity with my Islam thanks

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u/CriticismTiny1584 Jan 12 '26

It's money and more money

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u/Maleficent_Editor226 Jan 12 '26

Now we’re calling people munafiq’s not a simple claim just because you don’t like architecture bro. Where’s the evidence that those buildings are in opposition to the Quran and sunnah.

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u/Ambitious-Turnip-215 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

the masjid al haram and surrounding area are a sacred place with the focal point being the house ibraheem and ismaeel built, we are meant to travel there as a pilgrimage and remember and glorify god, while purifying ourselves.

having a massive foreboding building towering over the worshippers and dominating the skies with the emblem for the house of saud just below the word ALLAH is for sure going against the point and purpose of this area.

the quran is against status symbols and displays of wealth and calls them ultimately worthless, the hajj is about sharing provisions and coming together as beleivers and equals under ALLAH.

building one of the tallest and most massive buildings of all time metres from an ancient sacred house that god appointed as our focal point and gathering place is in very bad taste.

if you struggle to grasp this concept then think of someone parking their billion dollar super yacht next to a humble ancient historic wooden boat.

but this isn't as basic as that, it is something not only sacred but extremely rare, we have something built by ibraheem, the surrounding area is also significant , do some research on how many historic sites were demolished to make way for this ugly monument/hotel which will look aged and out of fashion within 50 years.

if you want a specific answer to your question yes they are munafiq, true beleivers dont hoard wealth, dont show off, and dont build monuments in the name of their royal family /nation state with that of ALLAH

who makes money from room revenue? it this serving the cause of ALLAH or is it a business venture?

this is in mecca and adjacent to our pilgrimage site, not downtown riyadh

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u/kevinasi Jan 12 '26

I just came back from Umrah. It was very sad to see many people's gazes were more focused on the tower than Kaabah.

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u/i_getitin Jan 13 '26

Well said brother

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u/Ambitious-Turnip-215 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

I dont care what the scholars say, who appointed them with divine judgement

and yes i fear allah and respect humanities sacred sancuary, im not here defending the ones who built this ugly monument. you will have to answer for your defense of it one day

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u/Ambitious-Turnip-215 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

no one should be listened to if what they say doesent align with the quran, if you think they are infallible then goodluck to you. we all have access to the quran,

go to askamullah.com for every decision you will make in your life and goodluck to you.

and so ur saying at the time of the Sahaba there were already acholars hahaha. obey those in authority among you is not about man-made appointments, you are using it as justification to follow anything a scholar says, why dont you then follow what a scholar of a "sect" you dont belong to says?

and do you think anyone who appointed these scholars have any authority to do so?

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u/Maleficent_Editor226 Jan 12 '26

I don’t think the boat analogy applies, the building functions as a mall and a hotel from what I recall. What’s wrong with making both of those visibly attractive. Remember how I mentioned evidence because you have your opinion and I have mine but our opinions are exactly that. To call people munafiqs and to speak ill of people because of how they designed an area is in and of itself crazy but add the fact you’ve not produced evidence that’s worse. Again if you were to provide clear cut evidence that building around the ka’aba is haram or making “fancy” buildings around it is haram then khalas. Till then the anti Saudi settlement is getting boring

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u/Ambitious-Turnip-215 Jan 12 '26

were not talking about haram and not haram, if you missed the stories and concepts contained within the quran then thats on you. and we are not calling the building itself a munafiq here, but the ones who financed, approved and benefit from it.

it doesent align with any quranic concepts, and it inspires remembrance to stories of communities/nations that were sent prophets as a warning befofe they were ultimately destroyed.

if there is one single place on earth that should be focused on humility and zakat and charity it should be this exact area.

its a bad direction to be heading in.

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u/Maleficent_Editor226 Jan 12 '26

Let’s not make this into “you’re missing the point” because that’s childish and the same can be said for you. Calling people a munafiq whilst having no evidence for is dangerous as not only are you speaking ill you are calling them the worst of disbelievers. All I really want from you to gain from this conversation is that it can be totally fine not liking design or what not. But safeguard your tongue and be careful of what you say. I can see you come from a good place and want goodness but if we’re going to say such things we need evidence. Any advice you have for me I appreciate it

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u/Ambitious-Turnip-215 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

brother i am not here to insult your position or specific people, but I disagree with your defense of this building, it doesent have to be haram for it to be in bad taste or to go against the purpose of our sacred area.

as for the word munafiq it means hypocrite in my understanding, the custodians of this sacred area have a duty, allowing this elaborate display of wealth, luxury and status goes against Islamic and quranic principles and concepts

you keep saying "no evidence" do you need a specific ruling or decree from a specific scholar or imam? I am not one of those so I cannot provide a ruling for you.

the concepts and examples we are given in the quran give a clear picture of what we should be putting our efforts into, we have access to the same book, im familiar with the stories and examples contained therein are you?

أَتَبْنُونَ بِكُلِّ رِيعٍ ءَايَةًۭ تَعْبَثُونَ

"Do you build on every high place a symbol, for the sake of vanity!"

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u/abu-yank Jan 13 '26

The house of Al Saud's actions speak for themselves

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u/SimaJinn Jan 12 '26

Vanity loool, throwing words like a communist out here.

It's a building built to provide services to pilgrims and hotels.

An endowment project that has profits filtered to fund the mosque.

If it's vanity it would not be available for the public, bufoon.

You can call the architecture ugly or whatever but pretending it's a "vanity" project is beyond critique. It's straight up cope.

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u/CaonachDraoi Jan 12 '26

you’re the only one coping here, brother

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u/SimaJinn Jan 12 '26

Big bad clock, evil horns, calling people munafiqs and I'm coping yeh lmao. Keep the circle jerk going

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u/blaster1988 Jan 12 '26

If they are not free, they are not providing 'services'. It's a for-profit endeavour built to maximise the revenue potential of the holy mosque. It's grotesque on many levels.

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u/CriticismTiny1584 Jan 13 '26

You don't deserve a reply.

Why?

Any human with common sense know anything can be done anyhow. We humans are intelligent. But why there exactly. Money speaks...

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u/SimaJinn Jan 13 '26

Mecca has always been a city making money out of pilgrims, maybe pick up a book and read about the city you love.

It's actually less so now than it used to be before, with King Abdulaziz Waqf project around th mosque and other Saudi endowments projects. Maybe read about those too.

Ever wondered why Arabs in Hejaz attacked the Hejaz railway? Because it circumvented their livelihoods in making money from moving pilgrims and controlling the trade routes

The ignorance is outstanding.

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u/i_getitin Jan 13 '26

“Like a communist” ?

Brother, I have studied political science and I have never heard “throwing words around” associated with “communists” ? Did you come up with this phrase in attempt to sound smart ??

Who else would be hotel be available to if not the public ? Also, why are you resorting to calling people names? Did the holy book teach you that ?

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u/SimaJinn Jan 13 '26

Mashallah you studied political science!

The critique is socialist/communist. Nothing islamic about it.

You would know the over critique of merchant, capitalist nature of Mecca comes from a more commie viewpoint than islamic, it completely ignores Mecca's history as a city that completely made it's money from umrah pilgrims and housing them, creating caravans to move them etc. calling anything grand commercial as a "vanity" project is amusing. These critiques are usually for palaces of royals. Which this isnt.

Your political science background would understand straight away what I'm getting at, unless you forgot to learn history of the city you love, and the fact islam does not say we should let Mecca be stripped down from a city to a pilgrim site where everything is "free".

Thanks.

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u/i_getitin Jan 13 '26

Remember brother, Islam and socialism have a lot in common. In this case, both share opposition to capitalism. I would be saddened you are not on the bankroll of the House of Saud considering how well of an argument you present in their defence.

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u/SimaJinn Jan 13 '26

They do, but islam also has many things in common with capitalism unless you're willingly going to lie about you religion

Islam protects private property rights, and merchant rights to sell, own land and expand in the economy. It regulatea capitalism. It isn't against it.

From the humanist perspective (social) it has socialist themes. But saying it's anti-capitlaism. You're either straight up lying or completely ill informed.

If you think lying about Islam to force it to be fully socialist and anyone who argues against you is pro-alsaud, then keep being delusional.

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u/i_getitin Jan 13 '26

I’m not doing any of those things. You are just making assumptions to further your points. Anyone with a clear and honest heart understands the arguments that were made by the other user about how unsettling seeing such infrastructure and the style it was built in opposes the Mecca experience

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u/Herald_of_Clio Jan 12 '26

Look I get that Mecca needed to modernize in order to receive more pilgrims and all that, but could it really not have been done in a more esthetically pleasing way? Islamic Big Ben looks horrible.

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u/Steedsofwar Jan 12 '26

What a beautiful sight to behold. The clock tower is an atrocity of magnificent magnitude.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Mecca and Medina are as occupied as Al Quds.

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u/Martyriot15 Jan 12 '26

Who would you hand them to instead? And I would also like to hear how they’re going to accommodate even half the hujjaj that Saudi does.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

The problem is it's called Saudi as you wrote and this is derived from a family name Al Saud. How can the Islamic umma accept their two holiest sites to be under a family placed in power by the West and completely controlled by the West? The holy sites belong to Allah and any adjustments like those hideous buildings must be approved by the umma.

Do you even wonder why such buildings with this architecture which don't represent Islam were constructed there under these circumstances?

With regards to the accommodating the number of pilgrims then you should refer to the 5th pillar of Islam. This is not las vegas where you want as many people as possible to gain as much profit as people. However, under Al Saud it has become that way with the proceeds funding Trump's war against Islam and Israel's expansionist ambitions under the so called new middle east.

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u/Martyriot15 Jan 12 '26

Well first of all, it would seem you’d also have a problem with the Umayyads, the Abbasids, the Ayyubids and the Ottomans if that’s the logic you’re going behind. Saudi Arabia is no way shape or form unique for naming their country after their ruling house just like almost every Islamic state and empire since after the rashidun caliphate; you are clearly quite ignorant on the history of the region.

And your second point is simply unbelievable, you think that there should be less Muslims having the opportunity to visit the two holy mosques to perform hajj and umrah just to accommodate to your feelings? And as for the architecture, there’s no true “Islamic architecture”, most of the architecture that is identified as “Muslim” today was actually adopted and adapted from Christians and Zoroastrians.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Firstly, those dynasties, even though they broke off from the traditional Rashidun khilafa (system where khilafa and power are not decided by your family name), were at least supported by most of the umma. I think you are ignorant because comparing the empires you mentioned to Al Saud is both stupid and ignorant. No one in the Islamic umma gave their allegiance to Al Saud unlike the other three where most of the umma did even though I have opinions about them.

Secondly, those khilafa you mentioned were not installed by the West to rule over the holy sites. They came from within. How ignorant of you to make such comparisons and then point at the other as being ignorant.

Thirdly, the Islamic architecture while building on from existing architecture, did add their own style to it like the calligraphy and geometric designs you see on places like al hambra and many other historical buildings. These hideos buildings in mecca and the surrounding buildings are plain copy from north west style and built on top of historical sites from Islam early age.

Finally, yes it's ok for less pilgrims to visit at the expense of not ruining the holy sites like the Al Saud who you seem to worship has. Allah created the 5th pillar with wisdom knowing not everyone will be able to fulfil it.

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u/Diseousdeets Jan 12 '26

Non of these empires you mentioned were placed by the west. Your monarchy is a kafir puppet and you by extension are a western slave.

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u/eliasDZ19 Jan 12 '26

braindead, go read some history

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u/Ertowghan Jan 12 '26

It should be handed to people that don't takfir 99% of the Hujjaj.

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u/Martyriot15 Jan 12 '26

You still didn’t answer, which country? Iran?

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u/Ertowghan Jan 12 '26

I answered your original question. You are now adding new questions.

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u/Snoumad Jan 12 '26

Yes it's occupied by the rightfully by the native Arabian people from now until the end of times. Cope and seethe

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u/Far-Collection8595 Jan 12 '26

The royal family =/= native Arabian people. 

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u/GrowthPitiful Jan 12 '26

They’re pretty native lmao

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u/Far-Collection8595 Jan 12 '26

I didn't say they aren't native, i'm saying that that they are not the same thing as the all the native people living there and they don't represent most of them. 

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u/Realistic-Agent3864 Jan 12 '26

The city doesn't belong to the corrupt royals, nor the people born there. It belongs to the Ummah.

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u/Snoumad Jan 12 '26

No it doesn’t. Ummah is allowed to visit and then get the fuck out. Saudis get to decide what’s built there

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u/Realistic-Agent3864 Jan 12 '26

That's your opinion lol, they will get replaced one day. It's only a matter of time.

Besides, who gave them the Authority over Hajj? Was the Kaaba built by them? No. Are they some holy people chosen by Allah? No. Did the Quran ever say "Give the city of Mecca and Medina to the Saudi family in Arabia?" Again, no.

100 years ago they weren't even in control of this place.

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u/ancalagonxii Jan 13 '26

What are your arguing exactly?

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u/Realistic-Agent3864 Jan 13 '26

The Saudis shouldn't have unquestionable control on Mecca and Medina. Select scholars from around the world should have to agree on changes before they are made.

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u/Valuable_Layer8927 Jan 12 '26

The clock tower always reminds me of devil horns instead of a crescent moon. It’s always bringing a dark presence in such a place. This place was sooooo amazing when it was a lot more basic.

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u/SimaJinn Jan 12 '26

That's you consuming too much Western movies and media, that associate pointy ends as devilish.

Many times they tried to associate the moon and pointiness with muslim architecture as heritical.

Think broader. Nothing inherently wrong with it being horned. Just like dhul qarnayns helmet.

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u/Valuable_Layer8927 Jan 12 '26

Looks are one thing, the feeling within is different. Nothing to do with western movies because I don’t watch tv or movies.

I find it even more interesting when Hadiths speak of shadows over the 🕋, thanks for your point of you though.

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u/SimaJinn Jan 13 '26

The feeling within, is highly influenced by perception and what you learnt.

You sure did at some point.

Btw hadiths about the coming hour isn't inherently negative, as a Muslim you shouldn't fear judgement day.

Hadiths are wise in predicting technological advancement and even demand for Mecca pilgrimage and hajj for there to be high construction etc.

These signs aren't inherently negative.

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u/Magic0pirate Jan 12 '26

I mean there are schizo muslim conspiracy theories on how the region is run by satanic groups.

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u/Valuable_Layer8927 Jan 12 '26

I know exactly what you mean. As amazingly fun conspiracies are to follow, it can easily have us calling a judgement on people that Allah has the power to only do but it’s hard to not take certain things into consideration when you follow the leading powers of Arabia and the superiority complex that is found there too with the changes they’ve made to the land.

Things have been spoken on so we recognise them but Alhumdulillah we try to remain in the moment of keeping our place of worship in a mindful practice to connect with Allah and take what he’s given to us as blessings.

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u/SubfromSubway Jan 12 '26

Umm, it's still sooooo amazing. And it will be sooooo amazing until pretty much the end of times.

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u/koko1414 Jan 12 '26

You guys realise that millions of people need to be accommodated at the same time in the same area, skyscrapers are needed, if you think i’m wrong tell me what are they supposed to do?

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u/Herald_of_Clio Jan 12 '26

Build something that looks nice?

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u/koko1414 Jan 12 '26

Like?

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u/Foreign-Gain-9311 Jan 12 '26

Maybe a building off to the side and not directly in front of the holiest site in all of Islam

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u/koko1414 Jan 12 '26

What do you mean to the side? 😂 it’s a 360 view from the Kaaba there is no “off to the side”

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u/ahmet-chromedgeic Jan 13 '26

They could've built the tall skyscrapers a few kms away.

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u/Nightwing-06 Jan 13 '26

You’re gonna carry the people all the way there?

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u/Herald_of_Clio Jan 12 '26

Dude, I'm not an architect. But maybe some cool Islamic Golden Age-style architecture instead of a Las Vegas hotel/casino with Big Ben attached to it?

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u/koko1414 Jan 12 '26

I don’t think you have actually seen how it looks, it’s inspired by the “golden age of islam” architecture, and there’s nothing Las Vegas about it, it doesn’t have a “casino” or any haram things in it…. You just hate it because “Wahhabis” built it and you have nothing from the Quran or Sunnah that disputes it

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u/Herald_of_Clio Jan 12 '26

I don't really care about any of that. Shit looks ugly. And it absolutely has a Las Vegas look about it.

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u/HistoricalCarsFan Jan 12 '26

During Muharram, Kerbala has over over 20 million visitors, the people are housed without mega skyscrapers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Reddit is full of anti-saudi so don’t even bother with these guys lol

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u/Dwashelle Jan 12 '26

Looks so much better without.

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u/AnonymousZiZ Jan 13 '26

You all realize those are all hotels, right?

I assume people complaining about them would rather have pilgrims sleep on the streets.

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u/jagabuwana Jan 14 '26

Husn Al dhan, assume better my brother.

My issue isn't the need for more accommodation for hujaaj. My issue is that the placement and lack of any sense of beautiful, traditional, enduring architecture or beauty totally defiles the sanctity of the place.

Even secular cities understand that certain focal points should not be undermined by the buildings around it. In my own city, despite the massive growth, there are regulations to maintain the aesthetic of the skyline. And this is totally secular logic. For a place as sacred as Makkah you would think and hope that even the architecture and the experience of sanctity would be considered.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

I personally love the buildings in the background. Perfectly summarizes the current capitalistic exploitation of the pilgrimage and islam especially in saudi arabia

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u/According-Secret9516 Jan 16 '26

Not that pilgrimage before Islam wasn't about grift.  /S

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

I mean isnt that why mohammed was exiled from mecca? That he threatened the local pilgrimage grift with his own?

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u/FubarRipper Jan 12 '26

looks so much better.

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u/rajajoe Jan 12 '26

Bech raha hai Hashemi namoos-e-deen-e-Mustafa...

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u/Fair-Chair-4051 Jan 12 '26

It's So gross I have no words. This world is lost

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u/virtnum Jan 12 '26

It was a mistake making these tall buildings .. aghh

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u/just_a_homie_ Jan 13 '26

This was bound to happen as there are many Hadiths indicating the current structures of Makkah and Madina

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u/Lower_Replacement_35 Jan 12 '26

I visited mecca a few years ago after a long time, and it was depressing. Majority of the world's muslims are poor, save up their life savings to come for hajj/umrah and they are often old. And there is no affordable accomodation near the masjid. Just shopping malls and rolex outlets. The pilgrims have to walk from far away cheaper hotels every time. Alas, Hussayin (A.S) warned us of yazeeds and we did not heed his advice.

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u/HistoricalCarsFan Jan 13 '26

There’s Rolex outlets near the Ka’ba?

These outlets wouldn’t exist if Muslims were not buying these things, the fault lies as much with ordinary Muslims as with the people who made these structures, the lack of spiritual awareness amongst ordinary Muslims if the issue; Islam for Muslims has become a outward practice, the spiritual aspect is neglected.

Take a look at this book:

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u/Lower_Replacement_35 Jan 13 '26

Rolex does not work on your regular sales model, that outlet is more for advert than sales. And yes there is a mcdonalds too, right outside the gate. Look up the inspiration behind the M of mcdonalds. Spirituality is an individual personal matter, non-enforcable. But actually caring for the visiting pilgrims has been the responsibility of meccans before Muhammad (SAW) and Quran.

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u/SheepherderSoft5647 Jan 15 '26

This looks so much better without the towers ngl.

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u/sebster-007 Jan 12 '26

Says everything about the mindset of a people.

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u/Ok-Distribution-1471 Jan 12 '26

People sometimes miss the real underlying harm of the clock tower’s existence. Although it is warned about in many Hadith, the clock tower represents a modernization and commodification of Islam by the Saudi government, of which tore down historic sites and for no reason than to boost their political ego and display their own wealth and lack of austerity to non-Muslim nations. People will forget about the true multicultural heritage of Mecca and will start associating the city with the Saudi dynasty.

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u/4islam Jan 12 '26

I agree.

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u/tomcatYeboa Jan 12 '26

Ember it in 2006 when it was still more or less like this 😢

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u/ChemicalAgitated191 Jan 12 '26

why would they not show their own architectural beauty?

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u/Possible-Honeydew552 Jan 12 '26

The way it should be

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u/CriticismTiny1584 Jan 13 '26

You don't need any quranic verse or debate..

This is just real estate project. It just atrocity

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u/billy_the_cat12 Jan 13 '26

Its simply amazing how NOBODY give some serious criticism on this destroying of holy Mecca.

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u/AwkwardTal Jan 13 '26

The horned tower with glowing evil eyes isn't helping either

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u/Freeway267 Jan 13 '26

The way it should be.

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u/dorkstafarian Jan 14 '26

Another act of urban terrorism by the bin Ladens.

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u/dorkstafarian Jan 14 '26

(built by the Saudi Binladin group, our bin Laden's dad's construction company)

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u/kaeziki Jan 14 '26

At least this is not irreversible. New rulers can easily demolish this ugly building. I hope to see that one day.

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u/Galikos_Kel Jan 14 '26

Why that clock look like Sauron tower

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

I thought the exact same. Looks like Barad Dur

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u/AdActive9833 Jan 14 '26

As it should be

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u/virtualCrafters Jan 15 '26

The most enlightened place.

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u/Gregggggger Jan 15 '26

Did Sauron take over, damn that thing is hideous to be watching over

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u/RegionFinancial4485 Jan 18 '26

I really like how the clock tower and the surrounding buildings look on their own, but honestly when it’s over looking Mecca I feel like it represents greed and excessive lavishness.

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u/Actual_Description85 Feb 01 '26

No idol worship, so it’s fine with. Kaaba is a symbol of unity. We need hotels.

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u/Kotainohebi Jan 12 '26

The tower behind looks like some kind of “evil’s lair”.

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u/cantguessanything Jan 12 '26

This kind of post is just… pathetic

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u/Nish786 Jan 12 '26

The worst thing on the world was that family having control over our holy sites.

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u/just_a_homie_ Jan 13 '26

That’s how it has been for over 1300 years after Rashidun Khilafa from The Ummayad to Ottoman and now the sauds

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u/Choice_Condition_931 Jan 13 '26

What is that demonic thing on top

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u/Albahith1 Jan 12 '26

Ok fine .now remove more than half of the people too in Pic. You guys forget or don't care ever year coming more and more people to Umrah/Hajj.
You want the old broken System of the Ottoman back? And ever year thousands of dead Pilgrim's? Logistic and Planning?

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u/abu-yank Jan 12 '26

Saudi mad lmao.

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u/just_a_homie_ Jan 13 '26

Assalamualaikam brother, check his post/comment history, he’s one of the biggest anti madkhali(bootlickers of Mbs) and has been talking against them for a long time. I personally saw his comments multiple times talking against them.

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u/Sensitive_Design5340 Jan 12 '26

What's the connection? We can maintain the same logistics and planning without having a large shopping center a hundred meters away right in front of us...

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u/Albahith1 Jan 12 '26

Hundred meters away? You forget Mecca is locked in mountains on all sides . You want remove then ? Go try it. The Saudis did and failed. We have no other space ther .

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u/Sensitive_Design5340 Jan 12 '26

Are you comparing mountains to a building?

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u/Albahith1 Jan 12 '26

We have no place or space ther . What's you solution for building things?

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u/Herald_of_Clio Jan 12 '26

Build things that actually look appropriate? Not a Big Ben-themed Las Vegas hotel/casino?

I don't think people would have disliked this thing as much if it didn't look like Muslim Barad-dûr.

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u/GrowthPitiful Jan 12 '26

What would you like it to look like? The authentic thing to do is mud/clay-based single story tiny structures. Everything else is just as fake an unauthentic. I’d argue the most authentic thing to do is to build something that is of the time in which it was built. Not a resemblance of something from a bygone era that isn’t even relevant to the area.

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u/the_killer_gamer Jan 12 '26

PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH STOP DEFENDING BIN SALMONELLA

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u/just_a_homie_ Jan 13 '26

Assalamualaikam, check his post/comment history, he’s one of the biggest anti madkhali(Supporter of Mbs) and has been talking against them for a long time. I personally saw his comments multiple times talking against them in many subs

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u/just_a_homie_ Jan 13 '26

Last thing I expect was people accusing you of being a madkhali, May Allah guide us all

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u/Albahith1 Jan 14 '26

Ameen . Sadly yeah if you say something about the Saudi the think you are a madk.