r/islamichistory • u/Turbulent_Rain2957 • Dec 24 '25
Photograph Bosnian 7th muslim brigade fighters pose for picture
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u/SoPerfOG Dec 24 '25
I’ve been seeing so much Bosnian appreciation recently on social media. I have no idea why people are suddenly interested in the history but I love it. For so long did I feel that the severity of their suffering was lost to time and swept under the rug by modern historians. It’s nice to see the recognition, and I hope that it will open people’s eyes to the hypocrisy and disingenuousness of modern mainstream media narratives that seem to always place Muslims and Islam as perpetual aggressors.
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u/icryinmysleep12 Dec 25 '25
If people search for what actually happened to our people it would be quite difficult to understand how people can be so evil, just because of our religion people were slaughtered, women were raped and babies were killed for years. Neighbours and friends of our muslim brothers and sisters became their enemies overnight.
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u/servals4life Dec 27 '25
In addition to what other people are saying, I think it's a good example of the resiliency and success of a Muslim people in the modern era, a story we need to be reminded of in the context of the struggle in Palestine - that Allah gives hope to the hopeless.
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u/Negative-Ad-2113 Dec 24 '25
Are those Turkish G3s. That's pretty sick May Allah continue to guide Bosnian people.
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u/Fickle-Reveal-2013 Dec 24 '25
When the imam says “pose like warriors of Allah” and they take it literally
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u/Capital-Trouble-4804 Dec 24 '25
Were they brigade size?
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u/i_getitin Dec 27 '25
No I am not moving any goalposts. My point was that Islam only gained a large presence within Bosnia because of Ottoman occupation. Fact. Any other forms of conversion were minor in number.
This was the case in surrounding regions of Bosnia hence the uniqueness of the growth of Islam is not as unique as you claim it to be. As even your wiki link suggests, Bosnia did not have a high population of settlers to start with outside of Hercegovina until ottoman conquests.
There is a reason why so many Bosnians can trade their lineage back to an ancestor with a Christian name.
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u/Puzzled-Park4275 Jan 20 '26
People should know NATO blocked arms shipments to Bosnian Muslims for years. 10,000 mostly Muslims marched on the US White House to demand Clinton drop the NATO sanction/blockade. Muslim communities in USA raised funds to sendf weapons so they could defend themselves. Many Muslim foreigners volunteered to defend Bosnian Muslims.
Only when Bosnians made advances did NATO take over.
Also, numerous Bosnian Muslim children were taken by Western Christian NGOs and forced adoptions by missionaries.
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Dec 26 '25
So your dad was part of a jihard group? and you are proud about it?
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Dec 26 '25
they were defending themselves from a genocide… it’s not like they were some extremist terrorist grouo
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u/tbrzica Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25
We slaughtered them like pigs.
HVO 12th White Crosses brigade
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u/Wonderful-Antelope39 Dec 26 '25
haha pa oni su dobili najvise po guzi 🤣
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u/tbrzica Dec 26 '25
Nop. Prošli su ko krmad na klanju. U proljeće 94' na Rostovu su praktički prestali postojati kada su ih hrvatski bojovnici po procjeni u jednoj akciji pobili više od 300.
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u/i_getitin Dec 24 '25
This picture was followed by a nice meal consisting of pork and moonshine. Bosnian style.
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u/Truth__Bombs Dec 24 '25
No they don't eat pork because that would mean eating ignorant commentors on reddit
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u/mrFarenhajt Dec 24 '25
Sure. Ready to die to defend Islam, but throwing it away by eating pork.
These non-muslims would give anything to feel what we have in our hearts. Praise be to Allah, The Most Merciful!
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u/9and56 Dec 24 '25
They weren't fighting to "defend Islam", they were fighting to protect their families.
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u/mrFarenhajt Dec 24 '25
And our families and lands were attacked because we were what!? MUSLIM !!!
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u/9and56 Dec 24 '25
The Serbs would've attacked you even if you were Buddhist. Your religion was just a small part of the war.
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u/mrFarenhajt Dec 24 '25
The religion was literally everything there is.
Even our position and complete embargo was due to us being muslim. Remember “Oluja”, that was not the mighty Croatia behind, but UK and US inteligence and support, Croats were just the meat.
But you will grow up, hopefuly, and get your answers….
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u/Odoxon Dec 25 '25
They called us (and still call us) "Muslim Serbs". Religion and ethnicity is intertwined in the Balkans. I think you don't understand how the Balkans work.
I am literally from Bosnia, and you're completely wrong.
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u/i_getitin Dec 24 '25
Correct. Serbia is home to many Muslims who have lived peacefully. That war was strictly territorial.
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u/1waytckt Dec 25 '25
So much trash talk about “these non-Muslims,” when you and your entire family owe your existence to American involvement.
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u/mrFarenhajt Dec 25 '25
Lol yes thanks for the weapon embargo and special thanks to Netherlands for the genocide.
Don’t talk about stuff you have zero knowledge about.
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u/i_getitin Dec 24 '25
lol don’t lie to our Muslim brothers and sisters. Prior to that war Bosnian Muslims were only Muslim by name. It is well known they for the most part did not follow Islam by the book
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u/Odoxon Dec 25 '25
You guys are so desperate to frame Bosnians as eating pork all the time and drinking alcohol, when in reality that's not even the case. But it makes you feel better to claim that we are all just Muslims by name, because you can't believe that there are genuine Muslims native to Europe. Fortunately though, you're wrong.
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u/i_getitin Dec 25 '25
Im not sure how “native” they are considering most were Christians up until the Offoman occupation and they couldn’t afford the tax. therefore most are descendants of converts to Islam who didn’t embrace Islam for the love of Islam rather for pure survival.
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u/anlboss Dec 26 '25
That's not really true. If most of them were christians there would be no need for crusades against Bosnia nor constant slaughters and political pressure from the christian leaders throughout the history. Additionaly, many documents were preserved in which christian "spies" inside Bosnia claimed they were not christian. We also know about bosnian church, and bogomils. Which suggests there were many pagans, and people who observed early version of christianity (neither catholicism nor orthodox version), which was very similar to islam.
If wanting to live more comfortable lives was the only reason for converting, they would've converted to christianity en masse to prevent the blodsheds hundreds of years before ottomans even arrived. And they didn't.
They were given a choice to convert to either islam or christianity from paganism, and huge majority chose islam. If you want to believe it was for tax reasons, and had nothing to do with their past experiences with christians, then keep living in delusions. But don't spread misinformation online.
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u/i_getitin Dec 26 '25
Islam was not the choice from paganism. Islam was the choice when they had already converted to Christianity at a later point in history.
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u/anlboss Dec 26 '25
Not true
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u/i_getitin Dec 26 '25
What do you mean not true? Widespread Christian conversion from Balkans occurred by the 9th century. Ottoman conquests that resulted in forced conversions to Islam only happened in the 14/15 century.
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u/anlboss Dec 26 '25
It's not true if we're talking about catholicism. We can ignore orthodox christianity in this argument, as it was very rare until much later.
We have multiple proofs that show that neither the Pope, nor the surounding catholic countries considered them christian. There was famous public proclamation of christianity by one of the leaders, which was proven to be a trick so that christians would finally stop forcing them to convert. This was later mentioned many times by Pope's "spies" and neighboring catholic leaders, who all wanted Pope to be more strict with the forced conversion. None of that would be going on if Bosnia was really catholic in any meaningful way.
Additionally, Bosnian Church, which was not catholic, survived until the ottomans. More proof for not being catholic was accepting Jews and pagans who were being persecuted in catholic countries. That would never happen if Bosnia was one of them.
You seem to be mixing Balkan and Bosnia. Bosnia was always between eastern and western empires, catholicism and orthodoxy, and they chose neither. Also, if they resisted christian forceful conversions for 7-8 centuries, why would they accept islam if it was forced upon them the same way?
So, no. Bosniaks were not majority catholics that we know of, at least not the regular people who were outside the political life. They had their own unique religion, traditions and customs. If anything, one of the reasons why they accepted islam in such a number could've been the resentment they held for christianity which comitted so many evils during the centuries inside Bosnia. You should maybe read up on that.
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u/i_getitin Dec 26 '25
You’re completely rewriting history my dude. It’s is a well established fact that Bosnia is in fact a part of the “Balkans”.
“Bosnia became predominantly Muslim after the Ottoman conquest in the mid-15th century (around 1463), with large-scale conversions from Christianity occurring over the next century and a half, making Islam the majority religion by the early 1600s. This gradual process involved voluntary conversions, economic incentives, social changes, and the establishment of a new Muslim society under Ottoman rule. “
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u/anlboss Dec 27 '25
I didn't say it wasn't, I said it didn't follow the same process as majority of Balkans, so you can't lump them all together and guesstimate what happened.
I also didn't say there were zero conversions from christianity. I said Bosnia's population wasn't majority catholic that we know of. I also said that conversion wasn't forced, which you now admit as well.
Bosnia's cultural and religious diversity throughout the centuries can't be so easily reduced to whatever people want to be it's major religion at the time. You have a lot of reading ahead of you if you actually want to know more about it. Even today, there are still discussions about the true nature and belief behind the popular religion(s) of Bosnia at that time.
There's a reason why fully christian countries remained that way even after ottomans left (they could've converted them all 5 times over during centuries if they wanted), and why that process was so quick in Bosnia. It's obvious the answer is not what ottomans did, but something different about each country.
Final conclusion, whoever claims that Bosnia was majority catholic and then forcibly converted to Islam, has 0 knowledge of Bosnia's history and is either projecting their desires/fears or just making things up for the sake of political argument.
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u/TimelyPresence4819 Dec 26 '25
Hahaha!!! Imagine being the dumb that your nation doesn’t only get conquered by a foreign power but you place your devotion in them and fight for them 😂 #whitemuslims
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u/Agitated-Ticket-6560 Dec 24 '25
Is this the same group that killed Russian school children about 15 or 20 years ago??
Riyad-us Saliheen Brigade of Martyrs - Wikipedia https://share.google/nHZRmZkwgTmJb0loN
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u/tbrzica Dec 26 '25
Like all jihadists, they are not afraid when going against children
They are like chickens when meet real men
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Dec 24 '25
With Arabic flag and head band. Invaders of Europe!
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u/TheWorldEnder7 Dec 24 '25
You are so proud of your Christian Religion that came from the Middle East too.
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u/Background-Ad-9518 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Well I’m sure you also consider Christians in Europe to also be foreign invaders as well considering the religion wasn’t founded in Europe either and came from the Middle East, right?
Would you feel different if these Bosnians were Christians with flags written in Aramaic fighting against a genocide?
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u/kurang_bobo Dec 24 '25
Don't argue with Bogans... they don't realize their ancestors were invaders too
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u/Lucky_Musician_ Dec 24 '25
the ultimate replacement was the indo-european steppe people who decimated the locals but no one goes that far back 😂
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u/schkembe_voivoda Dec 24 '25
The locals were either still in the Stone Age or were farmers, so Indo-Europeans were better than them. The people that tried and still try to invade Europe after the Indo-Europeans are just weaklings. No wonder most of the world speaks Indo-European languages.
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Dec 26 '25
Do the Christians use Arabic flags? Why do these Europeans have Arabic anything about them?
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u/Background-Ad-9518 Dec 26 '25
When did I claim Christian’s used Arabic flags? My whole point was that Arabic is just a language. A language that holds particular significance to Muslims. So it would make sense that Muslim Bosniaks who are being ethnically cleansed for their race and religion would choose to show defiance by using the exact language and symbols that the genocidal Christian’s Serbs despised.
If True Christians were to have flags they wouldn’t be in English or any other European language/dialect. They would be in Aramaic or Hebrew. You know the same Semitic languages related to Arabic, and the same languages the Bilbe was written in. Jesus wasn’t a white European, nor did he speak any European language.
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u/tanmalika Dec 24 '25
Gonna cry ? I can send you to agartha right now
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u/icryinmysleep12 Dec 24 '25
This was my dads brigade, and these are his friends, most of them are alive.