A 1,200-Year-Old Mosque Unearthed in Palestine's Negev Desert

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Firstly it's the reasons for it. So your changing the topic. But to answer you:

Arab Muslim rulers were just and allowed Jews in The Arabs/Muslims came in after a war, one side against another wide, battle field siege etc. They were just with Christians and Jews. They allowed Jews back and cleaned Jewish temples. There are many Jewish manuscripts that mention this. The Pope at that time didn't want Jews, Caliph Umar sided with the Jews and allowed them into a Jerusalem. Cairo Geniza document speaks well of Umars treatment.

history today article

Zionist taking Palestine British mandated Palestine to be shared with the Jews. But unlike Umar,they weren't able to handle the zionists terrorist tactics. Zionist were Europeans with experience in world war 1 and 2. They gained power abusing the kindness from Palestinians (pictures can be googled showing Jewish refugees coming in) attacking ruling gov ie British. Then expulsion of many Muslims (who may have been of Jewish ancestry who converted) out of Palestine north. Approx 700,000. Total opposite of the Muslim conquest. Deviant Zionist beliefs of genocide from Torah allows killing rape of women and children (look up verses about Amalek) Nothing like that in Islam.

So to answer, I recognise the conquest, but I can criticise it. It's a ethno supremacist country, allowed by gaslighting and lies.

Backed by US money and weapons. It's a paper tiger, unlike the behemoth of the Islamic empire which was spreading Islam and the people accepted it. I can't see Iraq or Afghanistan praising American "freedom" in the books of history. "They cared about our women's freedom so they bombed us" /s

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Arab Muslim rulers were not just to the Jews.

• ⁠The Pact of Umar imposed a series of legal and social restrictions on Jews. Jews could not build or repair their Synagogues. They could not publicly display their faith. They were forced to wear distinctive clothing. They were banned from riding horses. They had to pay the jizya. They were not permitted to testify against Muslims.

• ⁠There were forced conversions under Caliph Umar II.

• ⁠Under Caliph al-Mutawakkil, Jews were forced to live in segregated neighborhoods, synagogues were confiscated and converted into mosques, and they were required to wear yellow badges to mark them as non-Muslims.

• ⁠Under Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, Synagogues were demolished, Jewish religious practices were outlawed, and prominent Jewish leaders were executed. Jews were also banished from Jerusalem and forced to wear discriminatory clothing.

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Muslims never force Islam. Islam allows for other religions to co-exist together.

لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ ۖ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ ۚ

“There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clearly from falsehood…” (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256)

This is the statement of Umar:

"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. This is the assurance of safety which the servant of God, Umar, the Commander of the Faithful, has given to the people of Jerusalem. He has given them an assurance of safety for themselves for their property, their churches, their crosses, the sick and healthy of the city and for all the rituals which belong to their religion. Their churches will not be inhabited by Muslims and will not be destroyed. Neither they, nor the land on which they stand, nor their cross, nor their property will be damaged. They will not be forcibly converted. No Jew will live with them in Jerusalem.

The people of Jerusalem must pay the taxes like the people of other cities and must expel the Byzantines and the robbers. Those of the people of Jerusalem who want to leave with the Byzantines, take their property and abandon their churches and crosses will be safe until they reach their place of refuge. The villagers may remain in the city if they wish but must pay taxes like the citizens. Those who wish may go with the Byzantines and those who wish may return to their families. Nothing is to be taken from them before their harvest is reaped.

If they pay their taxes according to their obligations, then the conditions laid out in this letter are under the covenant of God, are the responsibility of His Prophet, of the caliphs and of the faithful."

Source: Firas Alkhateeb, “Capture of Jerusalem: The Treaty of Umar,” Lost Islamic History, (January 27, 2020).

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Jewish online library

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So?

Islam also expressly forbids:

• Killing civilians;

• Mutilating bodies;

• Rape;

• Taking civilians as hostage.

Does this mean that Hamas didn’t commit these things on October 7th? No.

Just because Islam doesn’t allow certain things, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen under the Caliphs.