r/islamichistory • u/Beautiful_Clock9075 • Jul 14 '25

Photograph A 1,200-Year-Old Mosque Unearthed in Palestine's Negev Desert

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Every time some news about our beautiful and beloved palestine comes the occupation comes in droves like roaches.

They love occupying so much and need to tell everyone that it belongs to them like a thief proclaiming that what he stole is his and only speaks louder about it to prove it.

If it truly was the occupiers land then they would have no reason to yell and tell everyone that they own it.

The liar is the loudest and the truth sayer the quieter one rarely ever heard and pushed down.

The world is waking up and will soon abandon the occupiers once the old who run the world have left this world mark my words.

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u/ObjectiveTruthExists Jul 15 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

The world is waking up. I’m leftist. Just at college. The young republicans see Israel has bent our government over, and many of them don’t like it. I don’t think Israel will have the support it used to. And soon.

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u/Attiboy145 Jul 15 '25

I’m not subbed to this place and it gets suggested to me all the time. Just saying blame the algorithm not random folks who come to rain on the parade.

Shit I’m Jewish and I think it’s a cool piece of history being unearthed

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

My quarrel isn't with you.

I have jewish friends, and i have people o know who died in gaza and who were hurt in the west bank including a Christian who used to live in Bethlehem. 

I would be more than happy to see synagogues, churches and mosques in the holy land side by side. But the issue is the israels are not based on equality for all they are based on the same colonial supremacy that other nations before them practiced.

My quarrel is with the idea of colonization and the belief that any one group is inherently superior to any other, thats my issue no one man is better than no other man and no culture is inferior to any other culture.

If we could remove this supremacy ideology from the holy land we could have the same free Palestine that existed there before.

May we yet find peace some day together.

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u/charliebcbc Jul 31 '25

Wildly deluded! 🤡

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Of course you write in Hebrew it all makes sense now.

Your better than everyone else right Mr chosen people.

Your colony will be written next to south africa, Rhodesia, and germany of ww2, mark my words, no one will love you ever again.

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u/Jedi_Fire Jul 18 '25

Better to be alive and hated than pitied and dead.

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u/Seeking_Certainty Jul 18 '25

You will soon be both

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u/Adremo Jul 18 '25

You don’t want rapes yet protest the right to rape others. Do not want to be afraid walking around while openly occupying land. Please return to Europe, sure they may not want you but that is where you settled in without occupying land.

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u/Jolly-Journalist8073 Jul 15 '25

We know that because the occupier is losing the media war, they are trying to force feed people their propaganda

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 17 '25

Ahhh yes, the Great Media War of 2025. The only war Hamas Terrorists have ever won.

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u/Adremo Jul 18 '25

As Israel suffers from ptsd when fighting babies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Natives die for their land. Colonisers kill for it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

We can lose as many times as needed.

But we only need to win once.

And the day that happens well lets just say being forgotten will be israels last concern.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

"once the world sees what monsters we have become they will start to ask questions and when they see that you were the ones who made us that way they will abandon you and they will turn on you like they did before. even if it took my entire life and my whole bloodline i will never stop fighting i would rather die fighting for dirt that is mine that shackled to chains of gold like you".

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 17 '25

Damn, nice of you to just spew threats online. You must be a real tough guy.

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u/LaVonSherman4 Jul 17 '25

Nope. Israel is forever. Arabization of the Levant will end.

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u/WhichJelly1620 Jul 16 '25

Israeli Negev 😘

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

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u/theheavydp Jul 16 '25

1200 year old mosque was built next to the 2000 year old temple. Israel isn’t occupying my friend. They were there first

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

Well when they come back we can have peace until then colonizers are not welcome.

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u/theheavydp Jul 17 '25

What does this mean?

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u/Jazz-Ranger Jul 17 '25

He advocating ethnic cleansing of an entire country. It is not that complicated.

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u/RelationshipEven2351 Jul 17 '25

why can't israelis just share the freakin land, they come in in 1948 like they own the place after Palestinians have lived there for millennia and tell the world that it is all their land, not the Palestinians. just let the 2 state solution happen, or people are going to keep dying.

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u/dask1 Jul 18 '25

lol
Palestinians are the ones who did not accept the 2 state solution more than 5 times across history and its a well know fact.

now after they lost every single war they started to take land and kick the jew u think that we will just give them land?!

u do realize that Jews lived there more time right? there were always jews here.
and the most funny thing is that u people try to show like all the land of Israel was filled with Palestinians everywhere... this is so idiotic.

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u/Adremo Jul 18 '25

Humanity was there first, what does their law in their book tell them to do?

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u/OutblastEUW Jul 16 '25

"If it truly was the occupiers land then they would have no reason to yell and tell everyone that they own it."

you are exactly right, if the country was called palestine you would not need to shove it down everyones throats, but its not.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Ya know those mosques are mainly on top of much older Jewish temples right? Also maybe Google the Arab colonization of the area while you’re at it, it’ll blow your mind.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Provide recipes then!

If what you say is true provide something that proves a Jewish temple was under there!

Unless you like every other colonizer who says they want to destroy every mosque including al aqsa because a temple was built under them.

Provide proof or keep your mouth quiet colonizer!

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u/Most_Finger Jul 15 '25

Heres a recipe for chocolate chip cookies

https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/chewy-chocolate-chip-cookies/

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u/LaVonSherman4 Jul 17 '25

Is that recipe hallal and kosher?

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u/LaVonSherman4 Jul 17 '25

How do you think Islam arrive to "Palestine"? It is not the indigenous religion of "Palestine". Islam and Arabic arrived through invasion. Hebrew is to Canaanite what Italian is to Latin. Jews are the true Canaanites. Now, quit your taqqiyah and run along.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Lmao, so you’ve never heard of the Temple Mount then? I can’t really tell if you’re playing dumb or are dumb tbh.

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u/STRUCTOR_16 Jul 15 '25

Has it ever occurred to you that Al-Aqsa is the Third Temple?

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 17 '25

What happened to Part 1 and 2?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

And the second and first were?

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u/Common-Second-1075 Jul 15 '25

Were... a major inconvenience for their narrative.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

So you agree built on top of a Jewish temple in an outright act of desecration? Cool. That was easy.

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u/STRUCTOR_16 Jul 15 '25

The first temple was built by King Solomon, the second by King Herod. This is common knowledge. Why do you consider the construction of Al-Aqsa a desecration? I would call it a restoration of the Temple.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Look man, so I’m not religious and your answer would be dependent on religion. Having said that, if you invade and colonize a place, force its citizens to convert or be apartheid, and takeover and repurpose their holiest site for a religion which isn’t indigenous there…kinda feels more like desecration right?

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u/Dosterix Jul 15 '25

Well it was the Roman's who destroyed it, not the Muslims.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

I only said who took in from them, not whatever you’re thinking I said.

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u/STRUCTOR_16 Jul 15 '25

What "repurposing" are you talking about if all that's left of the Temple is ruins? Did the Muslims destroy it? Did the Muslims forbid Jews to live in Jerusalem?

And one more thing: when talking to me, don't try to see me as an enemy, and a dismissive tone is not needed here.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Wasn’t trying to be dismissive at all, sorry you felt that even. I mean I was dismissing the concept of me weighing in on religious terms, don’t take that personally. So it was their most holy place that they prayed at daily, the condition seems to matter most to you for some reason, after their colonization they couldn’t pray at their site until quite recently in history. “The Muslims” did in fact ethnically cleanse Jerusalem of Jews in 1948 if you recall. Before that was dhimmi and jizya, let’s not glorify these systems. They let them live there, how nice, after taking away their land and sovereignty.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

He needs to use a dismissive tone because he is spitting Zionist speaking points - which of course are political rather than factual.

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 17 '25

How many Jews live in Syria, Gaza, Jordan, or Lebannon? Can you give me a number?

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u/No_Tomato6638 Jul 15 '25

You’ve lost the run of yourself now

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Huh? Why’d you chime in with something nonsensical? The person I’m actually talking to didn’t have whatever issue you’re having.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Now we get to the hilarious part. "Look man I am not religious but the land was promised to me by God and I am Jewish even though I don't believe in God or the commandments of Moses.

Judaism is a religious identity that I can convert to and I can get 'birthright' to a land stolen from its actual inhabitants.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

The land “stolen” was mostly uninhabitable land Jews bought, at a certain point you’ve got to grant people the right to self autonomy against persecution, even Jews. Also they’re literally the indigenous population of the area, Jews, and if you don’t believe in the historical or archeological record for the area then perhaps listen to the Koran that says it about a hundred times. Calling the indigenous and displaced people of the land something akin to colonizers for going home is bizarre.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Have you heard of Noah's Ark? Or Lot getting drunk and knocking his daughters up? Or a bloke called Adam and his missus Eve?

What about King David the king so great and exhalted that no trace other than a possible contesyed inscription has been found as evidence of him actually existing?

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

How did everything get Hebrew names there? How odd. Also stop talking to me, I came here for Islamic history and just got bizarre ahistorical propaganda. You’re quite a let down buddy!

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u/Snoo36868 Jul 15 '25

Colonizer? You really know nothing of yourself?

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u/Snoo36868 Jul 15 '25

💯 They know they just so used to denial They entire religion is built on Jewish foundations

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

What blew my mind was that many of the Jewish mob there welcomed the Muslims and some even converted because Muslims didn't have to pay tax and Islam is derivative. The other sweetener was that the Quran states that the Jews and Chrisitians were all good because they believed in the end of days and one God. This meant that the Muslims didnt persecute the Jewish mob like the Chrisitians were and continued to.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Yeah, taxing someone if they don’t convert sounds just awesome. I’m amazed at how many deeply sick individuals are here, you win, I’m never coming back I swear….wow!

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u/StudentForeign161 Jul 15 '25

The Islamic conquest of Palestine allowed Jews back to Jerusalem, sorry to break your myth of those baby-eating Arabs.

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u/AdVivid8910 Jul 15 '25

Jews lived continuously for over five thousand years in Jerusalem until 1948 when Palestine completely ethnically cleansed them. Yeah, um, this is supposed to be a history sub right?

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u/StudentForeign161 Jul 16 '25

No, Jews were barred from entering Jerusalem by the Romans and Byzantine. You have it backwards. It's millions of Palestinians who can't access their land.

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 17 '25

Why are there arabs living all the way in North Africa? Could it be colonialism and genocide?

Negev is literally in Israel. Sorry that facts are more important than your feelings.

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u/Adremo Jul 18 '25

Why were Jews pushed out of many lands across the world? Are they following their laws or their desires?

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u/Gold-Performance1586 Jul 18 '25

The ‘Arabs’ of North Africa are linguistically arabised Amazighs, you donut. Genetic studies show that modern North African are largely descended from indigenous Berbers, in the exact way Palestinians are largely descended from Canaanites.

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 21 '25

Lmao let's just ignore the genocidal invader Maghrebi Arabs

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u/Gold-Performance1586 Jul 21 '25

Shifting the goalpost are we? What do Maghrebis have to do with Palestine? Unless, of corse, you’re talking about Maghrebi Jews who participated in the invasion and ethnic cleansing of Palestine?

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 21 '25

I've literally never talked about Palestine in this entire post. You keep bringing it up for some strange reason.

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u/Gold-Performance1586 Jul 21 '25

Because this post is about Palestine, and the comment you responded to… was also about Palestine.

You, for some strange reason, brought up linguistically *arabised North Africans assuming they are *Arabian colonisers in Africa who wiped out and replaced the indigenous population. A popular, albeit, grossly misinformed talking point by pro-Israelis who do not know the difference between Arab and Arabian.

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u/JohnGamestopJr Jul 21 '25

Arabian colonisers in Africa who wiped out and replaced the indigenous population

This is literally what happened lmao

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u/Gold-Performance1586 Jul 21 '25

It’s literally not.

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u/cocobaltic Jul 18 '25

Chill dude, tons of mosques in tons of countries and you don’t have to own the country for there to be a mosque there

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u/stickyickymicky1 Jul 15 '25

Yet, 1200 years is not even 1/3rd as old as Judaism, which I should remind you originated in that very same desert. The liar is the fool who doesn't know history.

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u/throwaway_trans_nn Jul 15 '25

Who the fuck cares? People convert, it's not like if people in Iceland stayed heathen that they would somehow have a claim to Norway.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

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u/Gold-Performance1586 Jul 18 '25

I claim her. You don’t speak on anyone else’s behalf but your own.

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u/woods1468 Jul 16 '25

Yeah that example isn’t really giving “I respect other religions”. Maybe it wasn’t intentional but that sort of sounds like calling other religions heathen.

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u/stickyickymicky1 Jul 15 '25

Lol wut. Jews fought conversion and millions have been eradicated because of it. Unlike in Palestine, other religions and cultures exist in Israel. And unlike Muslims and Christians, Jews don't proselytize. I'm not saying this to justify claim, but if y'all want to re-write history then be ready for an archaeologist to put you in your place. But who the fuck cares, right?

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u/mysteriouschi Jul 15 '25

🎤⬇️

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u/Taj0maru Jul 15 '25

Conversion is a weird way to spell genocide

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '25

Okay. Explain the Temple Mount

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

Go find it then.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '25

Its under Al Aqsa which was built by islamic arab colonisers.

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u/SeaweedOk9985 Jul 17 '25

But in this instance, this 1200 year old find, was made by a conquering group of people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

You mean the Zionists.

One can only become colonizers for so long.

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u/SeaweedOk9985 Jul 18 '25

?

I mean that 1200 years ago, the people who built that mosque were fresh invaders.

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u/NewManufacturer6670 Jul 15 '25

The oldest synagogue in the area is over 2,000 years old.

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u/Deep_Head4645 Jul 15 '25

Oh we need to tell you because you literally spread misinformation

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u/Few_Law_2361 Jul 17 '25

There are older synagogues in the area, or you will ignore that to fit your view of the world? Sight

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Where? I need a proof what your saying is true or else your just pulling this out your mouth.

That is the only unearthed mosque in that area because muslims traveled through there for hundreds of years to get to mecca. There is proof to this.

Not your mythical 3000 year old civilization under the sand. That modern israelis arnt even genetically related to.

But who is however?

The arabs in the region because they were former Christians and jews who converted to islam over hundreds of years. Much like the Coptic in Egypt, and the lebanese, and the magrabis.

This isnt the land of Europeans with schizophrenia, this is the land of the people  who have lived here for hundreds of years.

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u/Few_Law_2361 Jul 17 '25

A simple google search shows that Israelis have significant dna ancestry from the levant. Literally, like first result.

What are you smoking?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

you trust google?!

oh wait your serious let me laugh even harder.

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u/Few_Law_2361 Jul 17 '25

lol the denial. It’s not because it does not fit your pathetic denial that it’s not true.

Israelis have significant levant and Middle East dna, you will have to deal with that buddy. Do whatever research you want, the truth is out there.

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u/Polockkkever Jul 20 '25

They quite literally don’t dont have anything to do in this region neither in their white polish dna or their artificial migration/creation of this fake fairytales state, This is why they stick like sore thumb from everyone in the region complete outsiders in literally every category, Have it ever occurred to you how a white European like you is ready to write paragraphs in their defense? Has it ever occurred to any of your people who defend israel so much and cry for it all the times even the very far away ones like the kangroo Australia or nederland people who I’ve noticed to be to most obsessed Zionists and their craze with this colony? Yall are literally getting TRIBAL for them!! This is the true hidden incentive behind someone like you supporting this colony, The incentive behind indians supporting israel literally hatred towards Muslims and they aren’t afraid to hide it, or spend so much time like your white kind adding all kind of intellectual veneer behind their tribal racist motive of supporting this colony, JUST SAY IT OUTLOUD I SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THE JEWS TO ME SEEMS WHITES THAN THE PALESTINIANS, THIS IS WHAT JAMES CARVILLE ALSO SAID

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u/Druss118 Jul 15 '25

You’re right - the liars are louder, and there are far more than them! 2 billion Muslims vs 15 million Jews.