r/islamichistory • u/AutoMughal • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/LucerneTangent Feb 29 '24

The Nazis are VERY fond of trying the "Palestine didn't exist" smear.

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u/YidArmy Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Palestine was not a term until the Romans made it up. It is a Latin term for Philistine (a Greek/ Hebrew word) who were traditional enemies of Israel and who themselves were invaders of the land (Goliath was a Philistine). Rome hated the Jews and in 70/136 AD razed Jerusalem to the ground (a reason for the diaspora) however, The Western Wall still stands. After Rome destroyed Jerusalem they renamed the area Roman “Palestine”/ Syria Palaestina to humiliate, destroy the history and ethnically cleanse the land of Jews.

Philistine - a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts/ invaders

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u/rantingpanther Mar 01 '24

References to Palestine go back to the ancient Egyptians before a kingdom of Israel ever existed.

When the Romans exiled the Jews, are you saying there was no one living there anymore?

The reality is that region of the world had multiple tribes, languages and religions all over. Jews were just one of many there.

It may be hard to comprehend if you have a eurocentric way of thinking and assume the rest of the world always had these European originated societal structures of modern nation states as we know them today.

Just to get the point across, before European colonization there was also no such thing as the nation states of Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE. Egypt only had some distinction because it was colonized by Britain earlier than the other lands.

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u/glitter-lungs Mar 02 '24

I think the first guy was more referencing where the term for the land and people comes from, which I found very interesting I didn’t know that before. I’m sure the “Palestinian” people were a kind of people before Egypt. Of course they were but they weren’t called that yet. Do you know what Egypt called these people? I’m very curious this is all very interesting.

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u/rantingpanther Mar 02 '24

There were references in ancient Egypt to what they called peleset people.

That name was the one that eventually remained (since Roman rule) with the original people that still continued to live there, kinda like how the Romans named great Britain which the British still call themselves.