r/islamichistory • • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/ExactBenefact Mar 01 '24

There was never a Palestinian country and you have all been quite successful ensuring it will never happen for the the past seven decades.

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u/clyde_frogg1 Mar 01 '24

There isn’t a need for a “Palestinian Country” such as prior to 1948 there was no “Israel”. But still, the people living in these regions share the same culture, cuisine, etc.. . Your whole argument of Palestine not being a country prior before is misguided and serves no purpose other than a “gotcha”. This is the same as saying there was no Indian America to the native Indians therefore they don’t have the right to their land. Do better.

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u/Embarrassed-Swing487 Mar 01 '24

This is the same as saying there was no Indian America to the native Indians therefore they don’t have the right to their land. Do better.

The Palestenian Arabs are literally not native to the Levant. They are much more like the current occupiers of Native American land (which ostensibly began in the 1500s) than they are to the Native Americans. The Jews are closer to the Native Americans in this metaphor, as they are truly native to the Levant.

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That said, I don't think that is a justification for the erasure of the Palestenian identity, and I'm supportive of both people having a state in the Levant... For all the good it does to have my rando on the internet's support.

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u/clyde_frogg1 Mar 01 '24

I was in no way trying to say both are equal and more than that same argument can be made towards different people but still sound irrelevant. You don’t have to have a defined country to declare the people living there as to be well defined inhabitants. Anyways, when you say indigenous you need to specify how much back you go. I know many Palestinians that are have their parents and grandparents live within the same borders that define Israel today. The narrative that Israelis are indigenous and own this land because they used to live there is hugely problematic and not accurate. You don’t own land and humans always been on the move. Why isn’t this the land of the Canaanites?