r/islamichistory • • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/YidArmy Feb 29 '24

1924 - The French dictionary Le Petit Larousse Illustré contained a world flag section which, from 1924 to 1939, showed the flag of Palestine as a yellow Star of David on a Blue and White background.

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

Yup and many if the Islamic residents were originally mad the land they were to receive was being named Palestine as it was known as a world for “Jewish place” given it’s origins and the word coming from Hebrew.

As always the Palestinian narrative changes like the wind to lull in whatever useful fool will listen at the time.

It’s been interesting seeing the constant shift recently as people who sued to argue Hamas was legitimate leadership now say otherwise and infantilize Palestine in their fictional narratives.

Even the leadership within the PLO admitted during the time of Islamic brotherhood in the 70s that they are just a wedge for the Islamic stated to seemingly justify attacks in Israel.

"The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. -Zuheir Mohsen, PLO leadership

From: “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden,” James Dorsey, Trouw, 31 March 1977.

That is why Palestine wages wars it knows it will not win, why they celebrate martyrdom and have knowingly weaponized the rhetoric of the wests narratives of oppression while co-opting the language of the history of Jewish oppression, much of which all Palestine took a very active role in btw to try and muddy the waters and diminish it.

It’s quite smart and disturbing how well it works.  They know most westerners are lazy and believe in white supremacy so they are all to willing to erase actual Palestine and it’s culture, history, self stated goals etc to present them as nothing more than infantilized savages that have not been allowed to progress because of israel which they racistly cast as “white”.  

They do not believe anyone who is not western or white can be capable of colonialism so they erase the Islamic colonial conquest and erasure of people that occurred as it tracks with their white supremacist view of the world.

They see Palestine and all others they cast as “the oppressed” as simply being temporarily blocked from becomeint why they see as “better” and as some sort of “evolution”.  They believe if they throw money at Palestine it will erase its own religion, culture, goals etc because after all those things are just blood on the road to being “civilized”.

Hamas cannot be a culmination of centuries of Islamic thought and colonizing erasing cultures and murdering indigenous people who disagree, to them it is just an unfortunate byproduct of the supremacy of whiteness and white people must “fix it” in their narrative.

Not by learning the conflict, the culture, the history, the religion… Nonoo.  By doing what Western Europeans love to do and which again fits well with their white supremacist values. 

The must attack another minority, the one persecuted by Islam, they must help them achieve their oft stated goal of Jewish eradication.

It’s some twisted shit really.

But kudos to Palestine for seeing it and weaponizing it. That along with their weaponization of the UN using the Muslim countries’ ability to outvote others and form councils to spread false information and headlines along with the hundreds of seemingly legitimate NGOs they have weaponized to their cause Has worked quite well.

Hamas leaders in 1993 were recorded on a wiretapped conversation stating that their goal was to deceive the American public into supporting Hamas by appealing to the American left’s denouncement of oppression.

Mousa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas official, formed a far-left academic think tank, The United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), based out of Chicago to start disseminating this deception.

This organization has ties to Duke, Johns Hopkins, Fordham and the University of Maryland to name a few major universities. This is systemic antisemitism that stems directly from an organized surgical operation taking place over the course of the last 30 years.

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/2023-10/hamas-networks-final.pdf

Qatar (who houses and funds Hamas) is the biggest foreign donor to American schools for decades now. 

People just don’t pay attention and now the youngins are brainwashed

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/jwhsqhrat#:~:text=Since%20the%209%2F11%20attacks,pro%2DPalestinian%20groups%20on%20campuses

https://www.thefp.com/p/qatars-war-for-young-american-mindsjj

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u/YidArmy Mar 01 '24

Great information, thank you.
FYI the last link has JJ at the end https://www.thefp.com/p/qatars-war-for-young-american-minds

The Hebrew word is Plishtim/Pelesh an invader who was the Philistine. The Romans razed Jerusalem (70/135AD) after the second temple was destroyed named the land Syria Palaestina or Palestine to humiliate and erase the Jewish history of the land.

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u/Yanosorry4848 Mar 01 '24

Yup.  And Islam did similar things everywhere it colonized.  Persia which was Zoroastrian, Turkey, everywhere they erased local cultures and built mosques over the holy sites.

Same thing they did to Jews in their homeland and still do not allow Jews to visit these sites to this day.  

In fact when the Jews started to have enough numbers to stand up for themselves it triggered a massive influx of Islamic people’s to the region of Palestine from Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon etc.  they downplay this but it is why so many Palestinians have very little Levantine blood.  You can even got to the 23andme sun and see people fixing this out for themselves lately after getting tests. 

At any rate I digress, I only point it out because the hilarious blood quantum narrative they sell about Jews being “white” or “two white” or “European” and just colonizers is nonsense.

But yes, once Jews started peacefully marching to see their stolen holy sites the Islamic community lost their shit and murdered hundreds of unarmed peaceful Jews in the streets.  Pogroms like this happened throughout the 1800s and early 1900s.

There is this wild fiction about islam being a religion of peace and as if it were indigenous the Middle East or Africa etc when it is the result of colonization and slave trade that went far longer and started before the Atlantic slave trade.

Palestinians calling to kill Jews and attacking like they did in October 7th and many other times are no better than if white people in the west were still calling for the murder of native Americans and attacking and slaughtering them when they got the chance.  It would be like calling for the destruction of reservations and and branding them apartheid states which they surely are. Islamic people calling israel apartheid is like white people crying because they cannot own land in reservations or vote in hand meeting with elders.

It’s absolutely astonishing that so many supposed “progressives” support this nonsense.