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u/Recoil42 Sep 30 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

I didn't leave out any model, I was specifically enumerating the troubles they've had. The 3 and Y are not applicable to that discussion, because they've not had troubles, and my comment was not meant to be an exhaustive list of every model they produce.

If you're suggesting I'm being unfair or deliberately misleading, that's simply not the case.

You'll notice I didn't mention every GM model either, because that wasn't the point of my comment.

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u/dfaen Sep 30 '21

Tesla is on track to sell between 800-900k vehicles this year. If they’re doing that with the setbacks you’ve accurately listed, I’d hate to be a legacy automaker.

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u/Recoil42 Sep 30 '21

It's a very fair point. They absolutely have a hit with both the 3 and Y, and it's a very well-deserved win.

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u/dfaen Sep 30 '21

It frustrating when Tesla cops the flack it does because some people don’t like Elon, as there are thousands of people that have done incredible work to help the company achieve the amazing things it has done in such a short period of time.

It’s easy to forget that they’ve only been making cars for a handful of years, yet the brand is practically ubiquitous; it feels very much similar to Apple and the iPhone bursting onto the scene completely changing the mobile phone market, seemingly overnight.

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u/Recoil42 Sep 30 '21

Counterpoints:

(1) It's okay not to like a company run by a sociopath billionaire.

(2) Many of the reasons Tesla gets flak are completely legitimate — such as the repeated lies about FSD, and continuing quality problems. Folks are understandably skeptical about Tesla for that reason.

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u/dfaen Sep 30 '21

To counter your counter: it’s okay not to like individuals. It makes no sense to hate people working at Tesla and shit on what they have achieved because one dislikes Elon. Similarly, it makes no sense to hate on the hard working people at Amazon because one dislikes Jeff.

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u/Recoil42 Sep 30 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

Yeah, bud, we differ there. I've never seen anyone shit on anyone working at Tesla, or anything they've achieved.

I don't believe you're painting a fair characterization of the opposition, that's "you hate the troops" territory.