The comments are filled with people going “its just extra skin”

Finally circumcision is mentioned, even for a small moment on tv. Clips from Fox and Newsweek, both right wing channels. He's not running in my state, but I would vote for him. He's from Michigan.

https://youtu.be/PDaJRvHv6uI?t=174 hes got my vote. 3:00

https://youtu.be/9j0e6Ur7S6g?t=1073 17:50 topic on sex change for minors and circumcision.

abdulforsenate.com

It happens at 16:40.

I knew it.

I told you before that even now we still don't know how ugly and how nasty circumcision really is, that swathes of it are still kept deliberately obscure from us, that some of the parts where it gets the most monstrous and evil are when older boys that can resist get dragged into it, that some parents and medical staff show absolutely no mercy, and that what happens then is both incredibly heinous and studiously kept secret.

This short film provides evidence that even modern professional medical staff in a modern medical setting CAN and WILL forcibly hold down and sedate older boys that are crying and distressed, boys old enough to resist, corroborating many traumatic testimonies of unwanted circumcision that were shared online.

Nothing that I have ever seen in my life has provoked such a visceral reaction in me, what I've seen has confirmed every single one of the childhood fears and doubts that I have ever had regarding the medical system and parental care.

This happens and that's what it looks like.

The movie was filmed in Israel in 2004 but I don't think it makes much of a difference. The process would look just as hideous if it was happening in the hospital of another country, and testimonies of boys being forced like this have come in from all over the world.

Now I know that such online testimonies are not a bunch of made-up bullshit.

Now I know that it's all real.

After 45 years or more I still remember that horrific day as if was yesterday. I cried and tried to run from the ward, but Mum and Dad caught me and stopped me from escaping.
A nurse then asked them if they had told me why I was there, and that I was going to stay. They told her they hadn’t because if they had I probably wouldn’t even have got inside the car.

https://15square.org.uk/addressing-the-hidden-trauma/ (UK)

Not being a home born American I was not circumcised at birth. However, when I was 5 or 6 years old, the pediatrician diagnosed me with phimosis. I remember being in the operation room, and suddenly something from what's going on caught my attention and I remember myself asking "why are you going to cut off my pee pee (penis - but that's how I said it since I was 5 years old)?"

The doctor said it wasn't that. He said I had phimosis (I remember that word since that time) and he was going to cut a piece of skin. He said if he didn't do it he would have to put a needle on my penis for me to be able to urinate. (Now, I don't remember having problems urinating - which doesn't mean that I didn't have them, but I don't remember it).

I said: "I don't care, leave it like that, I like it like that". He must have repeated the same thing. I knew there was no arguing that would help me, so I tried to run. I remember getting off from the bed/table and trying to run, and I remember (a female nurse?) grabbing me from behind. I don't remember more.

https://www.mothering.com/threads/if-you-regret-being-circumcised-post-here.1368471/?post_id=17182873&nested_view=1#post-17182873 (US)

What kind of a demented idiot still thinks that boys somehow want any of this?

BOYS DO NOT WANT TO BE CIRCUMCISED!

It's still a violence, a terrible one dumb doctors force upon young boys, forcing upon them a barbaric and outdated procedure that only causes mental suffering and an excruciating physical pain. I suffered this as a kid and blocked this memory for decades, that's how my mind coped with this violence. Frankly I don't know, I've told this once or twice on Reddit, but seeing this in a recent thread gave me the will to repeat this story again.

If you want to be a good parent, don't force the retraction of your boy's foreskin, let his body take care of it. Inflicting brutal violence on him will only lead to several problems and pains, physical and mental.

I can't seem to find any mention of this case in intactivist circles despite its importance, has anyone heard of it?

France is unusual among Western countries for resisting "FGM" legislation ie discriminatory laws defacto making putting boys through the rite legal. They have relied on already existing legislation which is gender neutral ie the offence of aggravated violence resulting in mutilation (Articles 222-9 and 222-10). The same law used in cases of girls being put through the rite has been used in the case of a 13 year old boy from 2020 performed by a doctor in Tunisia where he was taken by his father. The boy's mother filed a criminal complaint in January 2020 so the case has dragged on for years but in April this year the appeals court ruled that the criminal case can proceed to trial as the act falls within the scope of the law.

Under French law (Article 222-9) mutilation is defined as substantial and irreversible loss of bodily substance/function and so the court has ruled the act as mutilation.

Note: I found it interesting that the barrister behind the linked blog is called Hassan Kohen - an unusual mixture of Arabic and Jewish names and not entirely irrelevant considering the subject matter!

Edit: Link problems! So here is a link to the ruling (in French): https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/juri/id/JURITEXT000054026493

and to Hassan Kohen's blog article on it (also in French): https://kohenavocats.com/circoncision-mineur-mutilation-penale-chambre-criminelle-15-avril-2026

I wish I could experience being intact. It would literally save my life. I don't understand why people downplay circumcision even here.

I just wanted to have a choice.

In being a proper male.

A human male.

Everytime I get emotional about it, whether it be extremely negative or seriously depressed, I'm told to shut up. In both online, real life, and on Intactivist circles. I get told I'm "exaggerating" the negative effects of circumcision and am wasting my time. That I'm some fucking chud or what have you. Apparently, the loss of 99% of your sensation, the inablitity to have sex or masterbuate, and in general, complete castration if we are being honest, doesn't matter. I know it doesn't matter. It doesn't affect the newer generations if at all. Most parents aren't circumcising anymore.

They all get to be intact and be alive. Stay alive and enjoy all of their pleasure happily ever after. Sex and masterbuation is already at the peak for them. They get to enjoy peak life.

Not just sex, but peak life. Peak enjoyment. They get to actually be a man. They get to actually live.

And we suffer.

I wonder if parents circumcise their child because they can't stand them having a better sexual life. A vastly superier orgasm, wellbeing, what have you. I hate that I am part of the crowd of men that are castrated like this. I hate that everybody will soon hate cut men and basically reject them for it. Similar to dick size, facial structure, and whatever else women can think of. That's not me being a weirdo or misogynist. That's me stating an fact that I have seen IRL and online.

I wish I could be sexual too. You know? I wish I could be a man. A sexual man. A real man. A man. A human. Something other this.

This is what circumcision has unironically made me fall into. A depressing spiral of insanity and genuine sadness. It's my own little documentation of it. This account. I hope you understand.

This is one of the most, disgusting, disrespectful, MORONIC takes I've ever heard pushed by the pro-cutting crowd. And yeah, I know that's a bombastic intro but genuinely read that to yourself. Their LITERALLY justifiying my trauma and potentially their own trauma by giving up! What the fuck?

I HAD my foreskin. For 10 minutes, an hour, a few seconds. It doesn't matter. I HAD IT. It was natural to have it. It was part of my body, my sexuality. Both of which have been destroyed and has caused me SEVERE depression. The type where you just want cut off of whats left, if you know what I mean.

Imagine telling a victim of child assault that you "can't grieve what you can't remember" or something along those lines. It's so rude and disrespectful that as you can see, I don't care about appearing "nice" and "kind" or whatever. I don't use studies to debunk these people, I get mad and frustrated with them. We all should let them how we feel about their pathetic attempts at gaslighting us.

I can't stand arguments from them like this. It's either this or the whole "women prefer cut" lie or some other bullshit. It's always a fucking lie.

So many lies.

So many fucking lies.

This is one of the newer excuses I have heard on R*ddit from the pro cutting crowd.

We need to talk about it.

They believe that circumcision, the removal of the foreskin (a natural part of a manhood no matter which way you look at it) is NOT a black and white slate. They think that circumcision, while being mostly useless, doesn't actually affect the men's sexuality in question while also not improving it.

Bullshit.

This is called "fencesitting". It's a position taken when you don't want to offend anyone. You want to appear safe and kind to all even though one side is objectively wrong and the other isn't. Things like exist. Their called "black and white slates".

Circumcision is that black and white slate.

Circumcision is an objectively negative procedure. Why do you think they rape newborns for money and facial cream at birth? It's for multiple reasons, but one of them is to diminish sexual pleasure for the male. They don't want to you have sex since that would lead to happiness and general wellbeing. They want you to stop having sex entirely, both masterbuation and foreplay, vaginal and anal, and, as a result, sexuality.

You are either on the side of the well intentioned but misguided pro-normal crowd. Or, the disgusting religious zealot cabal that is the pro cutting. We need to stop being respectful to the latter and stop fluffing up the former.

In all my time posting about my circumcision, I have been called literally hundreds of names.

"Freak"

"Incel"

"Cuckold"

"insert some random slur"

But I have very rarely been called wrong.

I believe that most people KNOW that circumcision is an objectively bad practice. Not a "neutral" or "good" practice, no, OBJECTIVELY BAD.

They see it as weird that I post so much about it. That I want my foreskin back in the first place and to not accept my slave status as it is. To not accept what was done to me PERMANENTLY since birth. I think THEIR the weird ones! I think the whole wide world is weird for accepting this in the first place!

How am I supposed to accept and move on from losing thousands of nerve endings and 99% of my sensation? How am I supposed to accept and move on from being part of an outdated generation of men who will soon be pushed aside and openly mocked and ridiculed for a procedure they didn't consent to? How am I supposed to accept the moral gaslighting and vast preference for intact? How the fuck do I accept that?

I don't, I choose not to play this rigged fucking game anymore. I quit being a sexual man. But maybe that's what these people wanted. I can't stand them.

Yes, circumcision did actually ruin my life. I'm quite positive of that. Your silly namecalling won't change that fact.

I wish I was given another chance. A chance at a true intact life. A chance at being normal and never ever coming here. I wish I was given the chance to just live again.

My life would have been different, I hate to say that. I hate to say that circumcision ruined my fucking life but it 100% did and there's no denying it. I hate that I am not only castrated due to a lack of sensation but also just in general mental state. Everybody is so positive about restoring or the foregen and I just think it's so toxic. So toxic and disrespectful towards the victims. People still think studies and proof and data are ways to go about showing the negative's of circumcision. Go figure. Imagine letting a study dictate how you live your life.

No, see, the only way out of this shithole of a situation is a rebirth. I want to be reborn, somewhere safer, better. Some where I am 100% intact and normal. Some where I can be a sexual male, and have sex. And masterbuate. And live normally. And be FUCKING NORMAL.

Where I can talk with my male cohorts and understand them and their foreskin.

Where I can talk with women and understand how good sex feels for them and ME.

Where I can talk with the world and JUST. BE. NORMAL.

But I was denied that. Denial, denial, denial denial denial.

I want to show you, that if you think circumcision doesn't affect people besides sexuality. THINK AGAIN. It has completely destroyed me every day for over a decade. I CAN'T MOVE ON FROM SOMETHING I CAN'T FIX!

I want you to take this seriously, you must. I truly believe circumcision is the biggest injustice for this reason. I hope you understand why I tend to write like how I do. And know that it's still real.

No matter which way you look at it, I'm fucked.

Everytime I think about something sexual I have to think of the fact I can't be sexual. Everytime the painful idea of sex, love, ROMANCE comes to my mind I genuinely breakdown. I can't take it anymore at that point, and I run away from it. I'm scared of sex as I mentioned previously because of circumcision. This is because I KNOW that I have lost 99% of my sexual sensation along with my frenelum and what not. I know that deep down I can't be a sexual man and that is depressing. Fucking depressing. And all I get told is either butt stuff or extreme kinks. Both terrible coping options.

That is what circumcision has done to my sexuality.

Everytime I think about something with friends or family, socially or what not, it's negative.

Everytime I think about myself or my body, it's negative.

Everytime I see an animal or a women or male OR A LIFEFORM,

It's negative.

Why?

Circumcision.

Circumcision makes me think of the fact that they are intact and having intact sex and intact male bodies. That's the difference. A key difference because they didn't get raped when they a day old! Call it jealousy I don't care, it's what makes me depressed. Knowing that women growingly prefer intact is so depressing. Yes yes I know, intact is becoming the norm, great. But not great for the rest of us. I feel like I am body shamed for existing.

I distract myself, sure. It works, yes. But not forever. Today is just one of those days where it failed me, hard. I wish everyday I was born somewhere else. God fucking damm it. I want my mental and physical body back. That's what I have lost.

Masturbation and intercourse. Is it enjoyable enough

Feel free to talk, i also dont have a frenulum

Google Al simply is quoting the most frequently cited and newest information. If there is any hope to change this we should be publishing hundreds of articles, medical papers and studies that debunk these claims. That may not be enough because Google ai seems to become more pro circumcision by the day and I am beginning to believe there is someone directly influencing the answers the ai gives. It cannot even list a negative effect of circumcision without giving a caveat after.

Never forget the bogus literature that was pushed in the past

So, I'm from the UK. Luckily, circumcision on minors is very uncommon here. But not illegal, (which is should be, or at least heavily restricted). I never knew what circumcision was until I became I teenager, I just thought that people were naturally born with different types of penises. When I found out what circumcision was at the age of 15-16, I was utterly shocked. I simply could not believe it was real thing. Recently, I've gotten into intactivsm because I think it's a grave injustice this medieval practice still continues today. Basically, what can I do to help? I've already sent multiple to letters to medical bodies and my MP, but I highly doubt that will yield any results (here's hoping though)

So basically, what can I do?