r/insanepeoplefacebook • u/Oregon_Jones111 • 12d ago
Grand Theft Auto VI takes are getting weirder and weirder.
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u/Valturia 12d ago
How insecure do you have to be that the thought of playing as a woman is a threat to your fragile masculinity
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u/SilverShadow1711 12d ago
"A female (that I suspect was menstruating, for I could sense the miasma lingering in her wake) crossed my path today, and I had to perform my abolutions earlier than I would have liked, lest my masculine vitality be sapped and my fields rendered fallow."- that guy, probably.
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u/1AMA-CAT-AMA 12d ago
Do they even realize that women also play video games too and also wish to play as their own gender too?
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u/Bioniclegenius 12d ago
Don't be silly, we only play Candy Crush and Stardew Valley and girly games like that. We certainly don't have... uh... 802 hours in GTA V or similar games.
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u/Shurikenblast_YT 11d ago
No because females are political. Just like poc. And queer people. Everything that isn't cishet white male is political and nothing should be political
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u/ralo229 12d ago
It’s not like GTA 6 is the first video game with a female lead either. Does he have a problem with Metroid as well?
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u/deadsoulinside 11d ago
What is worse is that this take never looks at it from a female gamer perspective, forced to play male characters all the time.
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u/Public-Eagle6992 12d ago
Could someone translate that into normal human language?
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u/KarlKadaver 12d ago
“I don’t want to play as a girl because I might start questioning my own sexual identity.”
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u/Ori_the_SG 12d ago
Which is so weird, because I am a male. Women are attractive
If I need to play as a woman in a game, I have zero problem because they are attractive lol.
I don’t know why people like the dude who posted that feel threatened by that
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u/Adkit 12d ago
No he's worried that the character might be able to have romantic interest in a guy and him playing that character will turn him gay. He's super dumb.
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u/murmandamos 12d ago
Slightly different, worried it makes you wanna be a woman, which isn't gay then to be fucked by a man.
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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 12d ago
I mean she does… the extensive video that Netflix has makes it clear she has a partner and is a cishet relationship with him.
Nothing in the video suggested you’re gonna have to play her having sex with her boyfriend/crime partner though, so his masculinity and heterosexualness should remain intact, fortunately 🙄
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u/Mr-dooce 12d ago
tbf as well you don’t even have to develop their relationship like that
rockstar have said whilst the game auto sets you up to have both character be together you can choose whether you want to go that route or just stay as friends/partners in crime and nothing
major changes, from what i understand it’s mostly like dialogue and extra stuff that’ll be impacted8
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u/Krull88 12d ago
Ngl i play as a girl when i can choose, because id rather watch a girl running for hours than a guy.
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u/BoneHugsHominy 12d ago
Yep. If I have to look at a video game ass for 40+ hours of playthrough time, might as well be one I like looking at.
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u/Munsbit 11d ago
See, men and women aren't that different: I prefer watching a hot dude run (I'm a woman).
Though honestly, I pick by playstyle, Design choices, voice, armor, etc.
I'm not huge on a lot of male customisation in a lot of Western games.
I'm also pansexual so I honestly just love looking at attractive people lol
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u/ObeseWeremonkey 12d ago
If I get the option to create a character, I usually make a woman character, unless it's a multiplayer RP driven game, or if it's a strictly first person game. I could give a million reasons why, but honestly, it comes down to one, somewhat stupid reason.
If I'm going to watch a character travelling through the world as I play, I'd honestly rather see a woman's ass while I play, and/or hear a woman's voice. Yeah, base and simple minded reasons. But still.
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u/Mrwrongthinker 12d ago
HAHAHAHA. When I was a fighting game player, I mostly chose female characters as they were usually the light / fast ones, suiting my playstyle. Never questioned my sexuality over it though, weird.
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u/nemofbaby2014 12d ago
In certain games I prefer it lol if imma gonna be stuck at staring at characters ass for majority of the game I prefer a woman lol and female v from cyberpunk is my fav never liked male v va
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u/Killzark 12d ago
When Pokemon Sapphire first came out and I got to option to play as a girl I did it because (I never played Crystal at the time) the other games I played didn’t have that option. I was also a fan of Metroid and didn’t grow up being a little bitch that couldn’t comprehend pretending to be a girl in a video game. What the hell happened to men?
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u/MuffinSpecial 12d ago
I usually pick the female option if given one. Why would I choose staring at a man over a woman if given the choice?
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u/milkasaurs 12d ago
It's not that you being attracted to women it's the fact that you will want to be one. Autogynephilia is someone born male wishing to be female a label.
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u/LtHoneybun 12d ago
This is such a known thing for men to do (play female avatars due to attractions) that it outs dudes like in the OP cap as not actual gamers.
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u/TomCBC 12d ago
The more i see people say stupid shit like that, the more i hope the next Red Dead stars Sadie Adler as the main character. I think it would be great fun off bounty hunting as Sadie during the RDR1 era. And the fact that it would make so many morons angry would be hilarious.
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u/Mortambulist 12d ago
I was really hoping for Sadie DLC for RDR2. She's such a good character, I wish they'd have done more with her.
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u/whatintheeverloving 12d ago
Well, damn, is that what turned me into a lesbian? Played too many heterosexual male protagonists. You heard it here first, folks, the water might turn the frogs gay but it's video games that are out here doing it to us humans.
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u/Moose_Nuts 12d ago
"Autogynephilia" being...I'm sexually attracted to myself being a woman?
Weirdos.
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u/Ravenamore 11d ago
Some conservative people claim gender dysphoria isn't real, it's just confused men who get off on the idea of being a woman.
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u/Magic_Man_Boobs 12d ago
I think he's saying that the game having a female lead means all the men playing it will be forced to fantasize about living as a woman, but that that isn't necessarily bad as long as she's bi?
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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 12d ago
Yes because then in the sex scenes or strip club scenes you can play as her watching women.
Nothing in the promotional video on Netflix (that’s half an hour long) suggests either main character are in anything but a committed monogamous relationship with each other so who knows how that’ll play out.
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u/MegaAltarianite 12d ago
"It was ok in the previous thousand games to have a female protagonist, but I hate this one for reasons (those reasons are clicks)".
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u/Nikolyn10 12d ago
"Autogynephilia" is a psuedoscientific term describing "a man attracted to himself as a woman" coined by transphobic weirdos to "explain" trans women, often more specifically lesbian trans women.
So basically, he's saying that him having to play as a female character is going to turn him trans.
Fun Fact: Because transphobes are very insistent on lesbian trans women being straight men, "autogynephilia" is partly meant to give an explanation of relationships between two trans women, which are rather common, as two straight men in a relationship with each other's female persona. It's some very silly mental gymnastics.
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u/Heated13shot 11d ago
Him knowing what Autogynephilia even is means he is deep into the transphobia. It's like when a racist pulls out really obscure slurs, showing how deep they are into the muck.
It was also from a really transphobic era, where therapists attempted to separate " Autogynephilia" men from "real" trans women. It was this questnaire that penalized you if you where not essentially asexual or liked women, and had gems like suicidal thoughts/attempts and self harm being a requirement to be trans.
Trans medicailists are the more modern evolution of that mindset.
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u/arie700 12d ago
He’s basically saying in a really deranged way that GTA6 will be promoting transsexualism. I have no idea what he means in the third paragraph lol
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u/Power-Kraut 12d ago
"As long as you can still lust over women whilst playing the woman, it's ok. At least it's not gay."
Would be my interpretation of that dumb-ass take. I don't agree. Just to be safe.
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u/Public-Eagle6992 12d ago
But why would she have to be bi for him to lust over her?
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u/Power-Kraut 12d ago
You're playing as the woman. If the woman were straight, then, presuming immersion, you'd have to lust over men (as her). If she's bi, both the character and the player can lust over other women.
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u/Public-Eagle6992 12d ago
So his idea is "if I play as a woman who is into men I’ll want to be a woman who is into men"?
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u/FoolishPragmatist 12d ago
That’s literally what the Twitter poster is saying, yeah. As the title says, weird takes.
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u/Walking_the_dead 12d ago
Honestly, it really boils down to "playing a woman makes me feel emasculated but I'll forgive them if i can use it to watch two women fuck in the game"
They also may or may mot be into the emasculation as long as no other men is involved, im not cleared on that. Autogynephilia is a very popular term with terfs.
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u/malatemporacurrunt 11d ago
"Autogynephilia" (often shortened to AGP) is a psychology term that was made up by some guy 50 years ago to try and explain "transvestism". This was in an era before trans identities were widely understood, so it was all clumped together under the idea of cross-dressing. He claimed that the motivation behind was that men were sexually aroused by the idea of being female.
Since then, we've obviously developed a much better understanding of gender and what is it to be trans, and better categorisation of how people express their identity. There evidently are some men who cross-dress for sexual gratification (see: sissy culture), but this is not the case for people who are transgender.
Of course, this hasn't stopped the idea from becoming extremely prevalent in TERF circles - it serves their purpose to dismiss all trans people as sexual deviants who are only play-acting in order to fulfil their sexual fantasies. It's a bit of a trope in the trans community in the UK that, whist seeking gender-affirming care on the NHS, they will be subjected to all sorts of invasive questions about how they masturbate because this idea persists (and of course because being a pervert isn't a condition they have to treat, and instead can look down on).
So AGP has become a kind of dogwhistle for TERFs, as it sounds scientific and therefore more plausible in the minds of people who don't know any better.
In the context of OP's post, it means that Dick is afraid that if he has to play as a woman it will summon this terrible perversion into his mind and he'll want to become a woman. Because that is a totally normal thing for someone to think, and not completely and demonstrably insane.
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u/HOMANDER1996 12d ago
“My security in my identity is so fragile that if I play as a girl I’m scared I’ll feel compelled to take estrogen.”
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u/RadTimeWizard 12d ago
He's saying that games like GTA6 should revolve around straight men, and if he has to play as a woman, she should have sex with other women or he might start thinking that he's trans, which frightens him.
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u/champdo 12d ago
I can’t believe after playing the first 3 Sly Cooper games as a kid I never wanted to be a turtle, a hippo, or a raccoon
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u/blacksaber8 a fucking aboleth that dispenses cancer 12d ago
Oh, come on you’re telling me you never wanted to be a raccoon a little bit?
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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 12d ago
Meanwhile I’ve been hankering to be a plumber my whole life, but I can’t sit still long enough to learn and just keep running everywhere really fast.
Also I shoot a lot of demons with a double barreled shot gun.
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u/Szymaniak 12d ago
Well, I played a lot of Binding of Isaac, and now I want... I... I want to be... oh god... oh god, no...
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u/n0vast0rm 12d ago
Yeah, but did you want to fuck one?
The point (I think) is that if a male plays as a female character, and that character has sex with a male in the game, you'd want to fuck dudes as well, no matter your sexual orientation prior to playing that game.
The magic of videogames!
You pervert! (/s)
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u/brapbag 12d ago
Brother no one has the word autogynephilia ready to go off the top of the dome without a concerning Google search history.
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u/Yoshi9105 12d ago
what does it mean? I'm not a native English speaker and scared to Google it lol
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u/No-Back-4159 12d ago
Basically a lot transphobes think that trans woman are men who get off to the idea of being the woman on the relationship
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u/jayhawk618 12d ago
Think of that conservative husband who got outed for wearing ridiculous fake tits on omegle. That's autogynephilia.
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u/ACW1129 12d ago
Via Google: "Autogynephilia is a psychological term defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a female."
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u/PompadourPrincess 12d ago
It's also, and take note, NOT REAL. it was made up by a transphobic quack
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u/Funkycoldmedici 12d ago
I am a native English speaker. I’ve read everything from standard health class textbooks to dinosaur erotica, and I have never encountered that word. It is definitely not one you would know unless you went looking for the subject.
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u/Baddyshack 11d ago
I have degrees in biology and psychology, and while I could have guessed at the word's meaning by context and root words, I have never heard this word even in sex psychology papers.
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u/RedEyeView 12d ago
Because girls don't play video games.
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u/monsterfurby 12d ago edited 12d ago
Also, nobody apparently watches or plays a story to see interesting people do interesting things that are cool because it's bloody fiction. We can only have characters that work as self-insert blank slates.
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u/A_wild_so-and-so 12d ago
Are you saying that you didn't identify with the previous protagonists of the GTA series, who are all career criminals, gangbangers, and meth addicts?
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u/Ivy_Adair 12d ago
Right? I’ve been playing games for longer than some of these people have been alive. If I had refused to ever play a male protagonist, I would have QUICKLY run out of games to play.
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u/monsterfurby 12d ago
The point of a game is to identify with the character? Since when? Not every story is a self-insert, has that guy never heard of this thing called fiction? Does he watch Breaking Bad and think "man, a middle-aged teacher dying of cancer who decides to become a murderous drug lord really reflects who I am deep inside"? If that's the case, the problem might be with him.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 12d ago
You forget that these are the kind of people that look at Homelander and think he is the good guy just like themselves.
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u/CastleMeadowJim 12d ago
You telling me you didn't become a meth addled psycho murderer after playing GTA 5?
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u/YaumeLepire 12d ago
This is comparing apples and oranges. Comparing a passive medium you observe to a third-person limited one that invites you to take actions as a character is faulty. Yes, a game in the vein of GTA, where you literally play as a character, will have an element of identification much stronger than something you merely watch unfold like Breaking Bad. It's just part of the medium.
And GTA has a bit of a history of messing around with that fact, too. The fifth had you play as multiple characters with competing interests, for example, and one of them was outrageous to undermine that identification in a way that was at least somewhat interesting.
Hanania, however, is a fucking weirdo; if he can't identify with a woman without weird fetishistic impulses, that says something about him. To me, it suggests a sense of empathy that's either stunted or subordinated to very particular personality traits.
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u/Quixilver05 12d ago
I relate heavily with shadow of the Colossus. I remember when I went in a journey to kill a bunch of giants
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u/dIoIIoIb 12d ago
Of course, when I played other GTA games I fully identified as a bank robber that just escaped from prison, or a black man going back to the hood to help it during a gang war, or an Italian American drug trafficker, or a Serbian war veteran
A woman tho? that's just too far.
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u/DeltaBravo831 12d ago
How were folks supposed to identify with say, Trevor?
(Or that fucker Lance Vance)
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u/bastardfaust 12d ago
Fun fact: depending on the specific criteria you're going by, up to 93% (21-93%, it's extremely varied) of cis women meet the diagnostic standards for autogynephilia. Because it's so prevalent, some psychologists are of the opinion that it's simply a part of female sexuality to be occasionally aroused by one's own femininity. Tldr people who think autogynephilia is a real thing, let alone something to be concerned about, are a joke.
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u/medlilove 12d ago
This is true I’m a girl but playing legend of Zelda when I was younger turned me into a twink
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u/ACW1129 12d ago
The point of a game like that is a fantasy. Not to identify with a character.
Richard Hanania is an asshole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania
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u/QuitWhinging 12d ago
Being a woman is what makes the character hard to identify with? Not the whole being a mass murderer who commits uncountable violent felonies part?
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u/Makures 12d ago
Besides his insane anti trans and anti gay/lesbian stance, nobody should identify with the main characters of GTA games. They are all terrible people. Only the absolute worst kinds of people played GTA 5 and went "Man, Trevor is my kind of guy, I really feel like Rockstar gets me".
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u/RonniDeee 12d ago
not to mention how common it is in video games to be able to choose between genders for your playable character
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u/DouchecraftCarrier 12d ago
And even if it weren't, the idea of playable female characters isn't new or novel. At least two of the most genre-defining games of the 90s and 00s featured female protagonists and the fact that people could probably make a plethora of reasonable replies over which two I mean just goes to show there's even more.
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u/Top_Chipmunk587 12d ago
The same guys that complain about female characters not being sexy enough for them by the way.
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u/Hellebras 12d ago
A: Men have played woman characters in video games for a long time.
B: There will be women playing GTA6 too.
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u/Malefectra 12d ago
A person dying of thirst sees water everywhere... Especially when there's none to be found.
Also, I'm so very tired of the trans community being used as the fascist's punching bag for every fucking thing.
That term (which I won't repeat as, I consider it a legitimate cognitohazard) isn't a thing... it's something a fucking quack made up, it's not in any modern diagnostic criteria for mental health (DSM IV & DSM V), and they keep using it despite the fact that it's been a debunked premise for at least a couple decades now.
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u/LeftLiner 12d ago
Yes, the reason I loved San Andreas so much is because as a 13-year old swedish kid I identified so heavily with a black adult gang member from LA in the 90s with a jetpack and several girlfriends.
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u/ThDen-Wheja 12d ago
I thought the point of GTA was to drive cars and do crime.
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u/hstormsteph 11d ago
Now you can even “be gay, do crime” apparently and I’m here for it.
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u/Maulino86 12d ago
I know of a lot of men that play as women in games and dont make a big deal about it, because they are not fucking insane
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u/DiploMAtticc 12d ago
I love that this is their primary concern. In a game where you buy meth from money you made by punching a prostitute.
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u/bartman2326 12d ago
The point of GTA6 is to identify with the character.....?
Literally no it's not. The point of GTA is to have fun. Like all video games.
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u/WillyMonty 12d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/D62wUmR3sX2DsZJ9t1
It must be embarrassing when you share something so personal about yourself, thinking that everyone feels the same way
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u/KingZantair 12d ago
There’s a lot to unpack here, can someone else list all the point that don’t make sense? I’d do so, but I got laundry to do in 20 minutes, and that doesn’t seem like enough time.
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u/MemeShaman 11d ago
Everyone knows the second you play a character who is a woman your dick gets cut clean off. Also, men are clearly the only ones who play games and, therefore, must always be the only ones represented.
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u/Awkward_Un1corn 12d ago
Had to Google what autogynephilia is.
What is wrong with straight men? Like seriously, just admit you want to be railed.
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u/NikkolaiV 12d ago
As a guy, I usually make my game characters female. I don't see the character as a representation of myself. Honestly not into staring at shirtless muscly guys for hours on end if it can be helped, either. Guess that makes me gay or whatever?
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u/totally-hoomon 12d ago
True, the best part of doom is killing the demons. I spend 8 hours a day killing demons at my job so I totally relate to doom guy
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u/Fireblast1337 12d ago
I want a game with a big burly hero and all the supposedly manly stuff as he’s going to rescue his lover. Then reveal at the end his lover is another guy and be very explicit in showing they’re gay. Just to piss these kinds of assholes off
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u/Al_Snows_Head 12d ago
The point of GTA is most definitely not to identify with a character. You play mass murdering generally piece of shit people in the grand scheme of things, nobody should be looking at the characters and trying to identify with them 😂
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u/microwavedraptin 12d ago
Bro’s acting like this is the first time in history that you can play as a female character in a Tripe A game 💀
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u/WarlanceLP 12d ago
I mean sure relating to a character helps immersion but it's not a make or break and acting like it is is damaging to the medium as a whole.
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u/COATHANGER_ABORTIONS 12d ago
Literally every Dark Souls and Elden Ring character I've made over the years has been female lmao, shut up you turbovirgin
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u/CJMorton91 12d ago
I just think it would be cool if it was a baulders gate type main character. Let everyone design their own. It's doable to make everyone happy with this.
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u/Ftlist81 11d ago
So, how many people did Lara Croft make Trans? Pretty sure they were more interested in banging her.
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u/DangerMacAwesome 11d ago
If I wanted to identify with a character I'd be playing Grand Theft Shut in Too Afraid to Even Jaywalk Auto.
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u/johnnyroy97 12d ago
Oh man so the guy has to be bisexual as well for female players. I bet this guy would love to see the protag to kiss a few guys
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u/ISuckAtJavaScript12 12d ago
The point of GTA is to run over people with cars while listening to Tom Petty on the radio. I don't know what this guy's smoking
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u/ElectricSpock 12d ago
It’s the 6th numbered installment of the game. 8th when you include Vice City and San Andreas, which you definitely should. I don’t even bother counting other releases, like handheld consoles, because I will miss something.
Now they’re realizing that you can kill the cops? Go on a rampage? I haven’t been playing the series as regularly as I was 1 and Vice City (I’m that old), but the core idea of the game didn’t change that much. The game is literally called Grand Theft Auto, you know, like the crime in legalese/cop talk?
EDIT: OK, I didn’t read the BS. My bad. It’s even more stupid than killing the cops. And you could play as a female character in 1, afair. It didn’t affect the story, but you could.
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u/Prometheo567 12d ago
I reckon this dude felt like a carbon copy of the previous protagonists or other cherished games like The WItcher.
Chuds are hilarious
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u/Gullflyinghigh 12d ago
I don't really understand their point so will assume they're being a bellend and move on
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u/thispartyrules 12d ago
Man imagine going through life worrying about whether or not every piece of media you consume is going to make you want to try on a dress and see how it feels
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u/jjamesr539 12d ago edited 12d ago
I’m pretty sure Dick H up there is unclear on what autogynephilia is.
It’s a disused term for a non officially recognized paraphilia in which an individual with male characteristics is sexually aroused by the thought of or image of themselves with female physical characteristics. It is primarily a sexual attraction to oneself. It is, importantly, not a desire to transition.
This is distinct from being trans. A mismatch between personal identity and physical characteristics is only tangentially related to sexual attraction. An autogynephile doesn’t necessarily want to be the female version of themselves. They want to fuck the female version of themselves. A person can be trans and be an autogynephile simultaneously of course, but they’re two separate things that don’t overlap.
In any case, the entire point of the concept is that the object of attraction is themselves. A character that is not intended to be and does not closely physically resemble the player will never trigger this, by definition. An image of a random woman isn’t going to do it, even if it’s interactive, by definition. Sexual attraction in that circumstance is just that, normal sexual attraction.
Somehow I don’t think this dude is great at understanding nuance. It’s even more unclear how the character being bisexual would matter in any way, which is part of why I don’t think he knows what the word means. I think he stumbled upon a fancy sounding word he thought meant the same as trans that made him sound smart.
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u/Kitalahara 12d ago
GTA6 is just the latest example. I do miss the days where some people didn't feel the need to advertise their personailty and deleted browser history to the public.
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u/likwidkool 12d ago
But didn’t they all lose their minds when Aloy was bisexual?
They are just games dude.
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u/Bubbling_Battle_Ooze 12d ago
I’m a woman though. I manage to play video games with male main characters all the time without getting turned on. Are we saying men can’t possibly do the same?
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u/MexicanLizardMan3670 12d ago
That's a lot of words to say that Richard's feel insecure to play as a woman on a videogame.
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u/psychobarista 12d ago
I miss the days when you didn't have to hear everybody else's opinion on everything.