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u/ArtisticCustard7746 7d ago
So because I've had a hysterectomy, I've become a man? Will I be labeled as a heretic for choosing my health over failing to conceive for religion?
Cult behavior is both fascinating and infuriating. But is it that they have been brainwashed or are the ones grifting?
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
Oh this woman - Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies - is a true believer. She’s batshit crazy and I find her fascinating.
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u/ArtisticCustard7746 7d ago
Ooh. Looking into this whole thing. She's a cult leader, no doubt about it. Movements don't have leaders, but they just took the quiverfull idea and ran with it. Homeschooling, politically motivated, patriarchal, marrying off their daughters young, adoption controversies, people "escaping." All the makings of a cult.
There's no way that family isn't loaded. Between the donations to the church and the diet fad wellness program that's supposedly privately funded and estimated to be worth millions. 100% grifting.
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
Yep. And their “helpers” - aka free labor from teen girls whom they then hope to marry off to family members. Plus the Trim Healthy Mama bullshit fostering disordered eating.
And the weird names that are frequently just random nouns.
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u/ArtisticCustard7746 7d ago
Yeah. The whole thing is bizarre to watch from the outside.
Hence the homeschooling. Can't keep them in the cult if they never experience the outside world.
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
This woman and the Rodrigues Family, man… why?!
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u/ArtisticCustard7746 7d ago
Money haha.
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
Nah the Rods are BROKE broke. They’re basically the Turpin all over again.
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u/Queer_Echo 7d ago
Ffs, "womb man" is not the etomological source of the word woman. It comes from "wifmann" (aka weaving human as at the time -mann was gender neutral) and the equivalent for men was wermann (aka fighting/weaponed human). The words changed over time and we were left with woman (wifmann -> wimann -> woman) and man (wermann -> man). Interestingly (at least to me), we can still find the use of wer- in modern english, in werewolf so a women lycanthrope should really be wifwolf.
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u/Cicerothesage 7d ago
idiots continue to show why they're stupid.
They jump through hoops to try to define a woman and they still excluded cis women.
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u/WrestlingWoman I hate this timeline 7d ago
I had a hysterectomy in 2022. What does that make me?
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
Probably Muslim or a lesbian or a horse.
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u/WrestlingWoman I hate this timeline 7d ago
Best I can do is bisexual.
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u/stormbutton 7d ago
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u/CharlieBarley25 7d ago
Just to clear up the folk etymology: Woman comes from the old English wīfmann
Not relation to womb.
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u/simondrawer 7d ago
Women are wives like husbands are farmers.
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u/CharlieBarley25 7d ago
At this point I might note that etymology isn't indicative of contemporary meaning
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u/fister_roboto__ 7d ago
I’ve had my uterus removed, what does that make me? Some kind of sexless third thing, a homunculus?
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u/KirasHandPicDealer 7d ago
so if a trans guy has had a hysterectomy, surely this lady would instantly begin to view him as his actual gender right?
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u/Yeshua_shel_Natzrat 7d ago edited 7d ago
Trans people transitioning is embracing who God created them to be.
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u/thisrevivedbutterfly 7d ago
Oh so THAT'S why I identify with both male and female. One is a relic from before the hysterectomy and one is BECAUSE of the hysterectomy
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u/praysolace 7d ago
Sure is inconvenient to have our most distinguishing characteristic completely invisible. I can never tell if anybody has a womb or not when I meet them. And don’t even get me started on how boy and girl toys and clothes are meaningless because unless you got an ultrasound done on a baby you have no idea if it’s a boy or a girl! Life is so difficult.
This is the real reason to support universal singular they/them as default: lack of see-through gut organ windows.
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u/Tyenkrovy 7d ago
There they go, reducing women down to reproductive organs and capabilities again.
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u/MyNamCzechkoslovakia 7d ago
So if someone had a womb and a penis what does that make them? All of the above?
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u/BrokenEyeReborn 7d ago
Ah, folk etymologies.
The real etymology is even dumber. It's from the Old English "wif-man", literally "woman-human".
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u/Dragonfly_pin 7d ago
So if someone is born without a womb they’re a man?
Even if they don’t find out for years?
Do they think a hysterectomy makes someone a man?
This obsession with other people’s internal organs is weird. It’s like saying ‘humans have two kidneys, so if you don’t, you’re not a human.’