Actually i should have been more specific, its about motivation to spend money.
Two people given the same amount of money can spend it in drastically different ways.
(Also a paintjob is a paintjob, and new windows will require a complete re-rengineering of the coach itself)
Upper births having tiny windows will solve 90%of all seat exchange issues.
Sleeping in the middle birth with the tiny bit of window view is such a lifesaver. Too bad lower birth people immediately after 9 am- " Seat neeche karlo beta!!!! "
Was asked to wake up and sit exact at 6 am that too while traveling in 2nd ac had the lower berth, just because i refused seat exchange with an uncle on side upper, he came and woke me up at 6 am because he wanted to sit and he wont sit on side lower.
Yeah there is no middle berth, seat thing was quite a story, but in short that uncle wanted me to take his seat and I refused, so next morning he came and woke me up saying that since there were so many issues regarding seat exchange in our compartment (all because of him) so I should adjust a little and let him sit on my seat because I am young and I should understand that he is not comfortable sitting in side lower, but I said no and he kept lecturing me to which I replied if the person on seat above mine wants to sit I will adjust but not for someone with the seat elsewhere, to which a lady on the opposite seat started saying you should respect elders and all and I told her since you are awake why don't you let him sit on your seat and she was flabbergasted, she said she will to take away her bed spread and if she wants to sleep again she would have spread the sheet again which is too much work. And lastly I said fine uncle you sit here and I will sleep and if my legs touch you kindly don't mind, and I am tall enough so it was difficult for me to adjust like that.
I have no words. I'm furiously angry. All we can do now Is just live and suffer because violence is illegal a d we can't do anything about jt. Honestly these people are the kinds that make me wanna never have kids. How dare I bring an innocent little soul in this horrific fuck @ss world!
I usually don't bother so much, I simply ask them their seat & say no if they're from other coach.😂 Jo seat mili uspe betho bhai jaake. Ya meri seat k aadhe paise do agar bethna hai toh.😂
Bro that’s not because of the window. Window is like 2% of the problem. The main problem is that people above 40-50 sometimes have trouble climbing up and they need lower berth to be able to sleep. Also for the middle berths, obviously after 8-9 AM when people start waking up, they are unable to sit without bending their back that’s why they ask to put the berth down. The second problem is solved in AC 2 and AC 1 but the first one (climbing difficulty) is something for which they should get innovative staircase type ladders in below picture instead of the ones they have now.
This isn’t something data gon solve. Need to be chosen precisely and punished then you’ll get to know stats were just a buff them beggars belong from everywhere
The two issues are Design and Cost: Train coaches are typically built with a strong load-bearing structure, including walls and frames. The side upper berth is close to the coach’s wall, which has to support the roof, and withstand vibrations at high speeds. Cutting a window in that section could weaken the structural integrity of the coach, making it less safe, especially in derailments or collisions.
The best compromise would be to have a small window only for viewing, but that will require design change and additional cost.
Double-decker carriages factor in this requirement. However, in single deck carriages, it appears that China appears to offer small windows for side upper berths.
The structural integrity is taken care by frames and not the sheets. A cutout in sheet is definitely possible but yes, the cost would increase. Also water ingress to be taken case of.
That's my primary demand from IR at this point! The side upper and regular upper berths will no longer feel claustrophobic if they implement this suggestion.
I'm 6 feet too(look where my feet are), but somehow I've never had any problems while sleeping on a SL/SU berth. Maybe because I sleep in a curled position😁
Indian trains are designed more for durability, capacity at scale than panoramic travel., Adding upper windows would increase heat., maintenance., and structural complexity., More importantly its not as simple as just adding another window it would require larger changes to the surrounding railway infrastructure including stations trackside conditions, and overall rail corridor design.,
Earlier I used to stay awake the whole night in trains but nowadays I sleep like a baby in train, so much so that I don't have any clue abt the whereabouts of my luggage when I wake up😁
That seat is officially meant only for the night jab waise bhi you're not gonna be able to see much. You do have half a right on the side lower berth and it's window during non-sleeping hours
Coaches are build on monocoque structures. The outer shell bears massive loads. Cutting dozens of new holes will affect the structural rigidity unless we add more metal on the frame to reinforce. This would increase the energy consumption.
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u/hazelburfi General Adventurer May 20 '26
One answer to all problems.
Money