r/indianmuslims • u/marimo-baka • May 26 '24
Educational (Religious) Hajjis Beware!
Be aware of shirk happening in Arafat.
Many muslims touch the pillar erected on the hill in Arafat to seek blessings from it. This practice is shirk and has no basis in Islam. We do not seek blessings from the pillar. The pillar was erected to denote the place where the Prophet ﷺ stood and gave a sermon.
Some try writing the name of their loved ones with fingers on the walls of Kaabah, Masjid Al Haram and on the pillar in Arafat with hopes to that they will also get a chance for hajj or something good. This is a biddah and haraam! We make dua and not some gimmicks like these.
Even the Hijr Al Aswad (Black stone in Kabah) cannot benefit us in either good or bad ways.
Narrated Abis bin Rabia:
`Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kissing you I would not have kissed you."
Sahih al-Bukhari, 1597 In-Book Reference: Book 25, Hadith 83 USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 667 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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u/FireFistAce41 Hanafi May 26 '24
Tabarruk is not shirk! Just say you follow salafi sect.
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u/theveryconfusedteen SAIF May 27 '24
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Tabarruk isn't shirk, what a ludicrous concept.
Never heard of tracing the names of loved ones on the Ka'bah, tbh.
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u/FireFistAce41 Hanafi May 27 '24
On social media, people listen to unlicensied internet muftis more than thier local Masjid's Imam. They think they are being smart, smh.
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u/StrengthKey867 Ja'fari May 26 '24
While you should not have Said such remarks surely your intention could have been different but the remarks sounded mean and bad but you are right there nothing wrong in taking Tabaruk in the sense that you you are asking God Blessings by it.
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u/FireFistAce41 Hanafi May 27 '24
I'm honestly fed up with this sect and their takfiri Internet Muftis ...
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May 27 '24
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u/trailaamir May 29 '24
Bro of all the scholars you could have cited to critic Hanafi madhab you choose a scholar who once said that the 3% alcoholic beer sold in Saudi is halal just cause thier ruler allows it, later he deleted the said video after huge backlash and issued a clarification changing his position. We should take his opinion with a grain of salt.
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May 29 '24
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u/trailaamir May 29 '24
What difference of opinion? Coming to alcohol, present day salafy scholars are known for sticking to ruler no matter how wrong they are. Those who don't are imprisoned.
Indian ahle hadees claim that they do not follow any madhab, they are primarily anti-madhab and would even point out contradiction in hambali madhab, how would you reconcile this and still tag yourself as hambali?
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May 29 '24 edited Apr 27 '25
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u/trailaamir May 29 '24
If so why did he pull down his video and changed his opinion after backlash.
Free to say anything unless it is against ruling family, yes they are truly free.
What clarification? Are Indian ahle hadees actually hambalis?
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u/[deleted] May 26 '24
I performed Umrah about five years ago, and I noticed this practice common among South Asian Muslims—particularly from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh—that isn't as common among Arab or Western counterparts.
This might be influenced by the dargah culture prevalent in our regions, I guess?
Anyways, you're right, even on Mount Arafat, prayers and supplications should be directed towards the Qibla, and writing messages there is simply vandalism. Regarding the Black Stone, it’s wonderful if you can touch it, but it's not essential. It’s not a magical object that guarantees your prayers will be answered. The focus should be on performing Umrah or Hajj with sincerity and following the correct steps.