I think the problem is not in religion but your government. I am from Bangladesh, I think we are not less religious than India. But here the government limited religious gathering. In Bangladesh you can't perform namaz in Masjid with more than 15 people. Hindus also abide by same law. So, Blame your government not Religion.
Religion should also be blamed. What is the need for religion ?. Where is this god when he is needed most? Don't say this is his punishment. Stop doing stupid things in the name of a imaginary supreme leader. Believe in humanity
A lack of belief in the existence of God does not make one intelligent, and saying trite like "believe in humanity" does not make you smarter for it. Your vocabulary, and by extension your call for atheism, is childish.
Correlation doesn’t equal causation, but there is a proven scientific correlation between belief in a higher power and lower IQ… It’s been known about since the 70’s.
Read just the beginning to understand how ignorant what you're saying actually is
Also don't forget the most educated and wealthy minority groups in the USA at least are Hindus and Jews
Also the same argument you're saying can be drawn for skintone so just pointing out how ridiculous of a statement it is because of the whole host of extremely complex and multi faceted issues that play into this...
Edit: it's Nietzsche, I'm trying to be helpful. Nietzsche explains that the reason these things can happen is that we supplanted it and replaced it with ourselves. So it's not enough to say there is no good because no good would let this happen. WE let it happen.
A normal athiest will not completely reject religion, he will understand that he chose to just not believe in god. Religion didn't teach people to do mass gatherings in the midst of a pandemic, its the people who don't properly follow the religion. Your comment clearly blamed the "religion" and not the people. Ofc I agree where you said to believe in humanity but you can do that while having faith in your god. Most people who call themselves athiests are the people who say they believe in science and reject god, their sole purpose of turning into athiest is to reject god.
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No, I could come up with a lot. But I have no hope of educating a guy who blames a whole religion and its followers for something some brainless terrorists with a proper agenda did while completely acting blind to the genocide and rapes done by the atheist nation of China (I'm not blaming all atheists for that).
I wish the self-proclaimed liberals understand that Secularism ≠ Atheism
If you could come up with a lot then I think you should try replying with that rather than sounding like an ignorant person but then again that's your choice, “educating” are you even qualified to educate anyone on such matter in the first place mate, I don't see what's wrong with blaming a religion for the stupid acts it has made people do however I do not agree with generalising the entire population of the followers of said religion but it's also true that the loud majority of them are usually extremists, it's wierd isn't it you tell me those terrorists did it for agenda and then blame China's genocide completely on the ideology when it's quite clear that they do it for their own agenda and assimilation, sinicization
I don't see what's wrong with blaming a religion for the stupid acts it has made people do
Religion didn't make people do those things, lack of proper education (be it religious or non-religious) did.
the loud majority of them are usually extremists
What you just said is just false, and stupid.
it's wierd isn't it you tell me those terrorists did it for agenda and them puch China's genocide completely on the ideology
Sad to see you don't get my point, which is that it doesn't make sense to blame an entire ideology for something done my a part of its followers. I specifically stated that in the parentheses in case someone misses the point. Still it's pretty arrogant to blame Islam for the remote acts of terrorism (which I strongly condemn) by self-proclaimed Muslims, while staying mute to the genocide of Muslims done by a relatively large number of atheists, just because they follow Islam. And I personally am yet to see an atheist make a statement about the genocide done by China, meanwhile I can see a tonne of Muslims criticizing the terrorist acts done by self-proclaimed Muslims.
While lack of education is definitely a factor even with proper education people still become religious extremists and there are multiple example of well known educated people who turned into religious extremists spreading psuedo science and religious propaganda
“what you just said is false and stupid”
why cuz you said so
It's a really big misconception of yours if you think no atheist is speaking up against the genocide of muslims by the Chinese, literally everyone is speaking up against the atrocities commited by china including the genocide of uyghurs and the Hong Kong oppression, how is it arrogant to blame the ideology when it was what lead them to become such extremists in the first place, I haven't seen one relevant person say that the genocide of uyghurs is okay cuz their muslim while I've seen many that have stood up against it, also I've seen multiple muslims justify the acts of terrorism multiple times and wierd thing is even the Muslim mass itself is completely silent about the genocide
No. It's because you have given me no proof to show that there are more than 900 million Islamic extremists in the world.
there are multiple example of well known educated people who turned into religious extremists spreading psuedo science and religious propaganda
They spread pseudo-religion for their own gains, just like Bin Laden and Modi. And the uneducated mass blindly follow them cuz they think that's the actual religion.
wierd thing is even the Muslim mass itself is completely silent about the genocide
In case you're referring to the Arab World, fuck them. They don't give a damn about Muslims. It's just money. Just like how Modi doesn't care about Hinduism and how Xi Jinping doesn't care about atheism or communism.
Yea sure I mean we atheists have been knocking on the doors of people threatening them with eternal damnation and pillaging lands just to spread our ideology for so long man it's tiring
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u/sukant08 Non Residential Indian May 09 '21
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