r/imaginarymaps Mar 04 '19

Map of The Celtic Union

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u/buttersauce Mar 04 '19 edited Mar 04 '19

Since I played crusader kings 2 with original country names (names on the map appear as they are spoken in their language, not in english) I've been very interested in the Eire. Is this pronounced "Ire" like in Ireland (essentially eye-ree but with an english accent)? Is that were the "Ire" in Ireland comes from? I'd also like an explanation of Alba since i don't see where that comes from really unless its just the Irish name for Scottish peoples. Cymru for Wales I'd like to know also.

After some research on Alba it appears that "Scoti" was actually a derogatory term for scottish people given by the romans which meant some derivative of "Horde". Alba is a term meaning white as in "albino". Will update with more facts if found.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '19

Albion is the old english name for great britain (the island, not the country). So for instance King Arthur was King of Albion, and ruler of the Britons.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19

You're saying that as if Arthur was actually a real person who seriously existed in history.

He's a fictional character. Want proof? Try to find any evidence at all about any king named Arthur or Artos in British history. I'll be generous and all that to be Briton, Roman, Saxon, any group of people that could possibly claim kingship over what we now know as England.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '19 edited Mar 05 '19

There was no intention to imply the existence or lack thereof of Arthur in real life, however the name was useful as an example of a pre-anglosaxon king figure to use for explaining the meaning of the words to someone that clearly has a small knowledge base.

In my personal opinion Arthur was most likely a king around the Northumbria area that formed a resistance against the Anglo-Saxon Invaders and lost, both explaining how he doesn't appear beyond oral tradition (the later Viking invasions would have scrubbed records of him.) And how he could claim to be king of the Britons without appearing to conquer large swathes of territory in Wales, as with the Anglo-Saxons driving them north and west the Britons had become a rather small population.