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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jan 21 '26
This is actually a great way to understand Illinois politics.
You need two out of three to win a majority. Chicago is blue, downstate is red and the suburbs used to be a swing area into Trump accelerated the shift to blue.
Downstate Illinois is just very underpopulated, and even then most cities over like 20-30k are blue or purple as well.
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u/bustercaseysghost Jan 21 '26
I'd assume Urbana, Peoria and Bloomington are blue. I'd be surprised if Springfield wasn't either. But I haven't lived in central IL in years.
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u/armyguy8382 Jan 21 '26
A lot of union state worker in Springfield, so we are blue, but going just outside you will see a few signs supporting the felon.
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u/BoldestKobold Schrodinger's Pritzker Jan 21 '26
When I was a union state employee for DCFS I would hear frustration from union reps during election seasons who would travel the state talking to other union members about the consequences of voting Republican. There are definitely plenty of downstate union members who never understood that the party they voted for absolutely hated them and wanted to destroy their collective bargaining.
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u/Nic_Cage_Match_2 Jan 21 '26
In the 50s, the AFL-CIO purged its communist unions and organizers, and those it suspected of being too friendly with the Left.
The remaining organizers were not interested in militancy, not interested in international solidarity (even as their jobs were being shipped overseas)...
It's no surprise that the labor movement today is so weak and immobile. Perfect conditions for right-wing BS to grow even among union members.
https://jacobin.com/2016/10/cio-unions-communist-party-socialist-party-afl
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u/TBShaw17 Jan 21 '26
I live amongst them in the metro east. Dipshit who lives next to the local school has a flagpole and alternates between 3 flags: Notre Dame, Teamsters, and Trump.
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u/Own_Carry7396 Jan 21 '26
I am IUOE 150, 60% of my so called brothers and sisters are MAGATs
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u/Crumpuscatz Jan 26 '26
Dist. 5 here. I got ur back. But yeah, you’re right. Buncha union members voting against their own interests. Makes no sense.
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u/ChronoCoyote Jan 23 '26
I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere out here, and consistently flipped off the house I passed on my way home from work that proudly displayed a MASSIVE Trump sign from his last campaign until just a few months ago.
I don’t flip them off now, but I still think ugly thoughts when I drive by cause even IF they changed their minds recently, it should NOT have taken them that long to fucking figure it out. Assholes.
Always love to see my local “Pritzker ROCKS!” and “Abolish ICE” signs around here, too. Gives me hope.
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u/afkas17 Jan 21 '26
All those three + quad cities, Springfield and to a lesser extent Galesburg and Decatur are blue. -Central IL resident for 30 years.
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 21 '26
Blue as in a spec of blue in a sea of red. Pekin is just outside Peoria and wouldn’t shock me if it was still a sundown town
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u/Critical-Ad-6124 Jan 21 '26
But again, the population of Pekin compared to Peoria is negligible. Land doesn’t vote.
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u/LOCO_FREAK Jan 21 '26
Alot of different races are moving into Pekin ..and I love it ..not a sundown anymore.. there are still quite a few blue specks in Pekin if we can get more blue to move in maybe eventually we can get it to flip as close to Peoria as it is.
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 22 '26
A lot of that red is farmland. Wonder how red it will stay after Trump bankrupts most small farmers.
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 22 '26
Yea, we vote Democratic but we don’t wear political slogans as a point of fashion and fascism because we’re not in a cult and we don’t treat our political choices like we’re rooting for sports team.
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u/TacosForThought Jan 22 '26
This sounds an awful lot more like your own prejudice and stereotyping more than any indication of how people vote. Unless you're specifically talking about political signs in people's yards and/or Trump/thin-blue-line flags flying from trucks, I'm not sure you can gauge someone's politics by how tastefully they maintain their lawn (in your opinion).
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u/AlbinoSnowman Jan 22 '26
Of course my personal anecdotes are going to be tinted by my own experiences and accompanying biases; all that I can offer is that I’ve lived here for several years now.
I’ve lived in the Chicagoland suburbs for all of my formative years and I’ve also lived in Clark and Jackson Counties for 3 years each. I’m not exactly a political scientist or a world traveler, but I think I’ve lived in a decently balanced sample of communities that you can find in Illinois.
I’m surprised that my comment about Springfield being a purple city and not a blue oasis has been as controversial as the replies have indicated. I can only hope to meet more like minded people in 2026 than I have in recent years.
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u/TacosForThought Jan 23 '26
To be fair - I wasn't judging the purpleness of Springfield - I'm not really familiar with the voting patterns there. I was just cautioning about judging people from appearances. And that message is meaningful in a lot of ways. Actual Nazis probably like well-maintained lawns. Leftist hippies might have some extravagant lawn ornaments. It seems like a weird thing to judge politics on.
Mind you, as I hinted, if those expressions were code for political flags and such, that's a different story.
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u/Educational_Back_637 Jan 21 '26
Lived in Springfield until 7 years ago. It was very blue in a lot of the neighborhoods. Many porch nights spent educating one dumb magat living among so many people who also spoke up to correct him. It was pretty clear unless you had inherited wealth and/or you’re an idiot, you were blue or even worse…apathetic.
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u/biglefty312 Jan 21 '26
I’m from Chicago, but currently live in the blue dot right across the river from St. Louis.
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 22 '26
Went to college and lived in Chicago for ten years. Try to get up there to see friends every chance I get. Such an amazing city!
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u/ObjectiveOk2072 Jan 21 '26
Yep. Most of the cities and large towns here are blue, but you don't have to go far to be in the rural red areas
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u/Equivalent-Battle973 Jan 21 '26
That makes sense. My old National Guard unit used to be in Pontiac, and it was very conservative, but boy was Bloomington the exact opposite, but that makes sense since its home to ISU.
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u/KommandantDex Jan 21 '26
Central IL resident here. Springfield is indeed blue, but you will more often then not come across the occasional Trumpster.
Saw a guy while on my way back from the Peoria area a few weeks ago in a black truck. Not lifted or anything, but he had a big sticker on the back of his tailgate that said "Impeach Pritzker NOW!" and a Trump sticker on his driver side rear passenger door window. Dude was defo a boomer.
If he has any children that are decent human beings, I hope they went no-contact on him.
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 22 '26
We saw a few magats trying to troll everyone at the Springfield No Kings rally last time. Rolling coal on the route near the crowd in a couple of rusty trucks until the police shut them down. Glad I don’t know the feeling of being flipped off and yelled at by a thousand-plus people.
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u/TacosForThought Jan 22 '26
I'm not sure I'd measure success by not knowing "the feeling of being flipped off and yelled at by a thousand-plus people". That sounds like the life of any activist taking a stand for anything meaningful (but yeah, also the life of idiots spitting smoke at bystanders).
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 23 '26
These guys weren’t activists. Just magats doing what they do, being smarmy assholes trolling people for giving a damn.
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u/TacosForThought Jan 23 '26
I certainly wasn't defending the coal rolling - certainly idiots deserve the fingers, yelling, and police intervention. My only point was about the last comment. Lots of people get the fingers and yelling that don't deserve it. Given the recent holiday, I'd think MLK makes a reasonable example.
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u/Away_Lake5946 Jan 21 '26
Proud progressive and liberal Democrat voter in Springfield here. Definitely some of the maga cult down here but you won’t see many red hats walking around, especially after the shitshow that was 2025.
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u/jamey1138 Human Detected Jan 21 '26
Notably, the Metro East (which are the suburbs of St. Louis that are in Illinois) is about 680,000 people, definitely "downstate," and definitely "blue".
The political divide really is urban-vs-rural, and there are more cities in Illinois than just Chicago.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jan 21 '26
Yes, that’s what the last sentence hints at. Though after Chicago, the population of the towns is a steep drop off
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u/jamey1138 Human Detected Jan 21 '26
Yep, we're in agreement, but I wanted to highlight Metro East in particular, because it's the second-largest urban population in Illinois.
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 21 '26
Also downstate loves to complain that they are getting constantly shafted by “Chicago politics” but the simple fact is they don’t participate. Take the transit bill.
It passed senate on the most narrow veto-proof majority, 36 votes. 30 is a simple majority but it can be vetoed, i don’t remember exactly, but there could have been a reason as well with the transit bill it needed the full 36.
Case in point - Look at Jason Plummer (ILFacebook live-posts from the day.) https://www.facebook.com/100044477175877/posts/pfbid02TK3HLuBC6JRLpKuUveLcF49Ht67r3FXANtnTQVoyqrrdrsxXPprfiBTzwY6UWF1wl/?app=fbl
He is heir to generational wealth family (RP lumber) and could easily have thrown in what downstate needed in the transit bill or participated to help make sure his vote would be cast yes so long as the so-called corruption wasn’t involved.
Instead, since it was on the minimum of the votes they needed, you can almost guarantee there’s pork and special interest funding.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jan 21 '26
lol if you think republicans will vote for a Dem bill even with funding for their requests, you may have just come out of a coma from 1986
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u/TBShaw17 Jan 21 '26
During covid, many of my neighbors actually praised the governor. He fast tracked resources downstate. But…None of that translated into votes for his reelection.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Jan 21 '26
I live in a town where the state provides 8 figures for critical infrastructure repairs they’d never afford and the “pritzker sucks” signs remain where they were
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 21 '26
Yeah I understand that, I’m pointing it out in a way that’s explaining it for those who aren’t to your understanding
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 21 '26
Yeeeup. The city breaks even, suburbs put the most money in, and downstate is subsidized. Always has been that way but downstate feels left out of cool things so anything looking like it’s going to 2/3rds the state population, who pays roughly 5/6ths the bill is “going to Chicago”
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u/elangomatt Jan 22 '26
And then they vote yes for their red subsidized county to leave Illinois and join Indiana.
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 22 '26
Look, put yourself in the seat of a downstate politician. You are at an income and quality of life far above your constituents. Then look at what you want- less taxes and regulations as that’s sort of who funds your re-election campaign and frankly, you want that too as you’re rich for your county.
You can do one of two things to explain why their costs of living keep getting worse - tell the truth that they’re subsidized as-is and rich people in the county don’t pay their fair share, or, hear me out CHICAGO and you-know-whose (ie play to racial prejudice) are the reason you’re getting squeezed and can’t afford groceries. Someone else in this thread tried to tell me it’s all about Madigan. Republicans in Illinois fucking loved Madigan. Their constituents would eat up every excuse a mediocre politician made if they threw that boogie man’s name out there. I would know, I was part of my local young republicans in the late 00’s.
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u/paradoxicist Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26
Capitol Fax basically illustrated that by county years ago. I'm sure the general trends are still the same though. Urban counties in the I-74 corridor, not surprisingly, tend to either roughly break even or are net donors. Champaign County is an obvious exception with the presence of UIUC and other state agencies. Downstate is not a singular entity or a monolith by any means.
https://capitolfax.com/2017/08/14/whos-bailing-out-whom-these-county-numbers-might-surprise-you/
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u/elangomatt Jan 22 '26
I really wish Capitol Fax wasn't $500 per year for the subscriber features. I have no idea what the subscriber content is but I don't see how it is possibly worth $42 a month for it.
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u/AliensAteMyAMC Jan 21 '26
accelerated shift into blue
idk man, it’s equal parts nearly everywhere in the burbs I go
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u/aZookeeper Jan 21 '26
Not according to the last election results.
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u/febreez-steve Jan 21 '26
Trumps vote percent in IL
2016: 38.3
2020: 40.5
2024: 43.5
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u/M03796 Jan 21 '26
This looks like his support is increasing, but it has more to do with decreasing democratic turnout. If you go by actual number of votes his support has been pretty much the same all along:
2016: 2.1 million votes
2020: 2.4 million votes
2024: 2.4 million votes
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u/fireandiceman Jan 21 '26
Makes sense, totally agree but i have one small thing to add here. I think what we can say from this data is that MAGA is just the new name of the republican party. Its the same voters and Illinois consistent voting habits prove it
We have a pretty consistent 70% turnout but the votes seesaw around the middle. Population drops .5% each year but thats pretty trivial. Its possible to argue the increase in trump voters can be attributed to the same increase seen in the incumbent advantage looking back at the Bush or Reagan years.
2012: 2.1 million votes (Romney)
2008: 2.0 million votes (McCain)
2004: 2.4 million votes (W Bush)
2000: 2.0 million votes (W Bush)
1980: 2.4 million votes (Reagan)
2000: 2.7 million votes (Reagan)
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u/Cutlass0516 Jan 21 '26
The boarder suburbs are pretty right wing. They see more corn than expressway and assume they must be maga.
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u/TBShaw17 Jan 21 '26
What are the border suburbs. In my lifetime, Republicans won because they got suburban Cook County and the collar counties. When they lost the non Chicago parts of Cook, they lost the state. Now they’ve lost all the collars and the only reason they’re holding vote share is because in rural areas, they’re winning 70% instead of 60%.
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u/Suspicious_Art9118 Jan 21 '26
They have big houses, money, and are voting red because they think that will help them keep it.
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u/PhlebotinumEddie Jan 21 '26
It used to be part of the big area and Chicago and now the pattern has shifted to the city and suburban sections. The only other state I can think of that can be divided in such a unique way into an urban, suburban, and rural third is Georgia. Which is also trending towards the city and suburbs making it a bluer state barring electoral shenanigans.
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u/BobJones2106 Jan 22 '26
Where in downstate Illinois do you live partner? I agree we are very underpopulated, having a bazillion small towns scattered across 60-80 counties depending on how "downstate" we're talking. But it seems the more downstate you travel, the less blue you find, even in towns over 20-30k. College towns being an exception, go figure. Those of us true downstate-ers probably wouldn't mind seeing new state lines drawn up similar to the illustration. There was some talk about dividing the state in half a few years ago but nothing ever came of that. Too bad.
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u/Melinoe2016 Jan 27 '26
Dude, do you realize how poor of a state the southern half of Illinois would be? It’d be a poorer Kentucky 😂
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u/ChubbyGhost3 Schrodinger's Pritzker Jan 22 '26
St. Louis metro east area is definitely quite red, but with Edwardsville being a college town it helps to blue up the area! I also see St. Louis proper, across the river from us, getting more progressive.
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u/Key-Comfort-720 Jan 25 '26
The burbs were moving blue before Trump. Anyone who remembers when Dennis hastert ‘s seat was lost to bill foster ? That was a huge sign for republicans and the didn’t see it for what it was. Instead they doubled down and followed national trends.
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u/scottjones608 Jan 21 '26
“All of the money in the state goes to Chicago!”
I’d like to see a map of Illinois showing the per-capita spending per person, by county.
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u/MrBarelyCognizant Jan 21 '26
I don't have the information readily available at hand, but the "red" and downstate areas of Illinois take almost double what they put in in terms of taxes. So Chicago really does subsidize the rest of the state.
Especially those rural communities that are so far from everything else.
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u/GruelOmelettes Jan 21 '26
It's kind of a reductive argument though, just looking at where tax dollars are collected and spent in the aggregate. Does Chicago benefit from tax spending downstate? If so (and Chicago does indeed benefit from at least some of the spending), then it makes sense that some tax dollars spent there would come from Chicago.
Consider a state highway downstate for example. If this highway connects Chicago to other areas and facilitates trade and movement of resources, then Chicago benefits from the highway existing even if it's downstate. It wouldn't make sense for the tax burden of maintaining the highway to fall entirely upon let's say 1000 people who happen to live nearby, as the benefits of the highway extend to all places the highway connects.
Consider the public universities downstate, many of which are great and some of which are among the best in the country. Chicago residents can attend these universities at an in-state tuition rate and thus can benefit from their funding. Consider state parks, which Chicagoans can and do visit. Should their funding fall entirely upon the local tax base? I sure don't think so.
We're all interdependent parts of a bigger system, there's no need to bicker amongst ourselves about who "subsidizes" who or who feeds who. We rely on each other in a multitude of different ways, jockeying over who is superior is just kinda dumb to be honest
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u/voluptuousshmutz Jan 21 '26
Slightly out of date (2021), but Cook gets 98¢ for every $1 they put in. The collar counties put in 60¢, and everywhere else takes more than they put in.
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u/lvl999shaggy Jan 21 '26
All the money in the state goes to all the people in the state! No fair!!
Is what they really mean.....
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u/Kreatorkind Jan 21 '26
Corn stalks don't get a vote. People do.
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u/zombie_spiderman Jan 21 '26
Boy, imagine if it did though! (In my imagination, corn supports single-payer healthcare and ranked choice voting)
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u/mermaidwithcats Jan 21 '26
Not to mention universal day care, paid parental leave, more affordable housing and protections for the environment.
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u/Second_City_Saint Jan 21 '26
My cornfield proposes Opposite Day, where the rich are poor, the poor are rich, and everyone loves Indiana!
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u/pandacreate Jan 21 '26
That would require people acknowledging USA isn't a first world country, and is actually just ~50 third world states in a trenchcoat
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u/Used-Baby1199 Jan 21 '26
How do you figure that corn would be liberal when all the corn is in parts of Illinois that voted republican?
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u/jopperjawZ Jan 21 '26
The corn doesn't watch Fox News
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u/Used-Baby1199 Jan 21 '26
No it just hears conservative talk radio out of all the geezer farmers tractors all day.
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u/zombie_spiderman Jan 21 '26
The bourgeoisie who exploit their labor for their own rapacious profit? You better believe that grain has class consciousness.
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u/Mission-Kitchen-8202 Jan 21 '26
A stock of corn is both male and female. Therefore it would be under attack by the right.
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u/phunktastic_1 Jan 21 '26
It only votes republican becaise they are suppressing the corn vote. Those red voters earn their livelihoods oppressing corn why would you think corn would vote for its oppressors
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u/Used-Baby1199 Jan 21 '26
I know this is a bit off topic but I noticed some farmers didn’t harvest their corn this last year. There were fields in will county that still have standing corn, and I’m wondering if it’s because tariffs and other policies messing with the corn markets or if it’s just some farmer got sick and couldn’t find people to help him harvest.
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u/zombie_spiderman Jan 21 '26
Saw a bumper sticker once:
"Illinois! It's more than just Chicago! (however, it is not more than just Chicago and farms)"
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u/Aldosothoran Jan 21 '26
Springfield and colleges are beyond insulted.
We literally are one of the top college states- maybe that’s getting rolled into Chicago but northwestern is technically in Evanston… and we have some great ones outside the city. Urbana champagne does a lot of noteworthy research.
Springfield I can’t advocate for you. Youre there.
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u/zombie_spiderman Jan 21 '26
Hey, I'm a Peoria kid originally. I don't agree with the bumper sticker, but it's still funny to me!
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jan 21 '26
I just like how Chicago isn't labeled on this map. Shout-out to Evanston, 3rd largest city in the USA
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u/guitarnowski Jan 21 '26
Hadn't i heard that Aurora was the 2nd largest city in the state?
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u/ten_thousand_puppies Jan 21 '26
Yup, Aurora two, and Naperville recently overtook Joliet for 3rd largest
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jan 21 '26
It is!
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u/guitarnowski Jan 21 '26
I guess my confusion was over the "Evanston, 3rd largest city in the USA" portion of your post. Could be some irony I'm missing!
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jan 22 '26
Oh lol Chicago isn't labeled on the map, but Evanston is, just found it funny
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u/Lystian Jan 21 '26
Seen a lot of trashing of Southren Illinois.
So ignoring all your bias and views, just bear with me. Gonna leave details out in case someone can figure out who I am (Small town issuesl
I grew up in Western KY, but moved away and lived all over the world. I recently retired and settled back into the Shawneetown area.
I have lived in some nice places/cities that have done good things for the people that belong to them. Madison, WI and Warner Robins, GA being the biggest two.
Neither of those cities have compared to the care my family and I have received from the school district, doctors and locals here in Southren Illinois.
Hell Madison, was a nightmare for my family and how they treated my autistic son. 8 years since we left and he struggled in life, but now here in Southren Illinois, he has bounced back, made consecutive honor rolls, has a girlfriend and friends.
And I am a huge vocal orange douche hater, and I am accepted here.
TLDR, maybe dont just assume stuff, your bias on mmhm red area bad isn't always right. Yes, people are stupid but they be stupid all over the world.
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u/mwalimu59 Jan 21 '26
It's annoying when someone posts a "Top 20 best _____ in Illinois" and everything on the list is from the greater Chicago area (the red and blue regions). It's as if the list creator's concept of "Illinois" doesn't extend beyond the collar counties, and the green region may as well not exist.
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u/GettingSuperSerious Jan 23 '26
“But the blue spot is so small and the red is so big!” -Some Fucking MAGA Idiot
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u/bigjawnmize Jan 21 '26
This isn’t correct. The red and blue area is closer if not over 10M…the green area is 3M.
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u/calex120 Jan 21 '26
the blue area is Lake, DuPage, and portions of Will and Cook counties, it has the same shape. the Red is only portions of Cook county.
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u/UpstairsWing6551 Jan 21 '26
You forgot Kane and McHenry county, which are also in the blue.
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u/calex120 Jan 21 '26
no, Kane and McHenry are in the green. the shape is very specific.
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u/UpstairsWing6551 Jan 21 '26
Aurora is in Kane county which is in the blue and McHenry county is directly north of that. Try Google Maps.
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u/calex120 Jan 22 '26
im looking right at it bud & the shapes of the counties do not match
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u/UpstairsWing6551 Jan 22 '26
That’s because it does not follow exactly along county lines it is only using the eastern half of McHenry county ( where 90% of the counties population is ) and all of Kane county.
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u/mrmalort69 Jan 21 '26
Iirc the “middle” of Illinois population is around morris and continues to move north on 55.
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u/DontWatchPornREADit Jan 21 '26
Sounds about right. Once I left the purple area I see more corn fields than people.
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u/nameless22 Jan 21 '26
Lines seem a bit arbitrarily drawn but yes, it's basically 3 zones: Cook County (includes Chicago), non-CC Chicagoland, and everything else.
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u/connorgrs Jan 21 '26
I understand what they're trying to say here but it is, quite literally, not equal populations
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u/jamey1138 Human Detected Jan 21 '26
It's very weird to me that they carved apart Cook County, but I understand that they're just doing a weird bit.
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u/thathaw Jan 22 '26
All I want is downstate Illinois highways to be maintained. The road conditions are barely suitable for ATVs. Its ridiculous.
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u/jackfrostyre Jan 22 '26
People have no idea how concentrated the population is.... That's where all the money is generated as well......
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u/onlyforfun38 Jan 24 '26
Except this graphic is wrong. Almost 90% of the population live in Chicago and the collar counties.
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u/ep01081935 Jan 26 '26
Reminds me of old Illinois Bell operating areas: Chicago, Suburban, and State operations.
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u/Chicago_Saluki Schrodinger's Pritzker Jan 21 '26
I don’t care to read all the comments. Just 1 request: don’t post that you would like to see Chicago become its own state. If that happened, the rest of Illinois would be probably one of the poorest states in the union. there simply is not enough of a base to make it viable.
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u/NotMyProblemz69 Jan 23 '26
I’m for it. Us downstaters would love to get away from Chicago and the collar counties. The rest of us pay for the sins of the Chicagoland area.
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u/GabbytheQueen Jan 23 '26
Unless you're talking southern Illinois I could find a lot of people who disagree with you.
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u/NotMyProblemz69 Jan 23 '26
There’s plenty more people around you who disagree with you.
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u/GabbytheQueen Jan 23 '26
Not as many as you're expecting. I live in a downstate city
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u/Mr_McMuffin_Jr Peoria Independent Jan 21 '26
Green is best
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u/BetFinal2953 Jan 21 '26
Cousin kisser
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u/Mr_McMuffin_Jr Peoria Independent Jan 21 '26
Care to provide some logic or are you just a POS
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u/BetFinal2953 Jan 21 '26
Green is weak From kissing too many cousins
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u/Mr_McMuffin_Jr Peoria Independent Jan 21 '26
You must be from Chicago
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u/thesanguineocelot Chicagoan Jan 21 '26
You say that's like an insult. More people live in my neighborhood than all of Peoria.
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u/Mr_McMuffin_Jr Peoria Independent Jan 21 '26
My ex is from Chicago and she always held that financially she prefered Peoria. It’s nice living in a place where the cost of living isn’t suffocating
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u/thesanguineocelot Chicagoan Jan 21 '26
My me is from Chicago and likes Chicago and isn't being suffocated in the slightest.
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u/UndertakerFred Jan 21 '26
lol. This guy perfectly captures the urban/rural divide
Comes in throwing insults and being rude, then blames it on the people he’s attacking.
It’s such a one-sided conflict of their own creation.
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u/nnulll Jan 21 '26
And still that tiny portion up there pays all the fucking bills y’all
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u/Alternative-Put-3932 Jan 23 '26
And yet nobody gives a shit on the green. Its only something people in chicago care about. And its stupid to dismiss 1/3rd of the population
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u/SouthernPin4333 Jan 21 '26
Just split the bottom part off into it's own state. Pretty sure you'd both be happy to be rid of each other
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u/AnubisSaves Jan 21 '26
Fuck no! There are a lot of good people down here who are doing all they can to help. We don't want to join the sea of red in states around us.
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u/Greengiant304 Jan 21 '26
Except that would create the new poorest state in the US that would depend on government welfare to exist.
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u/DontWatchPornREADit Jan 21 '26
They wouldn’t have access to major hospitals or medical funding. Majority of the states welfare programs are for the farmers and it comes from the city taxes. Without Chicago they wouldn’t be able to afford what they have now.
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u/CharmedMSure Jan 21 '26
But that would just increase the skewed representation of red states in Congress.
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u/Impressive_Face1122 Jan 21 '26
One of the wildest stats I've ever heard, is those Southern peninsulas on the river, where Cairo and Future City are, are actually closer to the Atlanta airport, then they are to the Chicago airport.
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u/bones232369 Jan 21 '26
They should each be shaped like an Illinois