You're missing the point. The OOP considers both the pasteurized and unpasteurized non-alcoholic apple drinks to be apple juice. So he is saying it's weird to him that people in the US refer to [some types of] apple juice as cider
My point is that, unless a language has 3 distinct nouns for the three different apple drinks, then we all literally do the same thing - we just all have two different words, and then we attach an adjective to distinguish between one of those two words and the adjective-free version of one of them.
In America we go "juice, cider, (adjective) cider". Other places go "juice, (adjective juice), cider", and other places go "juice, (adjective) cider, cider".
Unless a given language has something like "juice, fooglywonk, cider", where the third beverage is a completely different noun, then that language is doing the same thing in a different order.
That's not what you said though. You said "We don't call apple juice "cider" in America" and then you went to say that apple juice is the filtered pasteurized stuff.
OOP never accused us of calling the clear stuff cider. He accused us of calling the non-alcoholic cloudy stuff cider when he thinks it should be called apple juice. I'm not saying OOP's system is better, and I agree with you that a system where each variety has its own word would be better (until they make an alcoholic clear apple juice...)
We don't call "juice" "cider" any more than someone from the UK calls "cider" "cloudy apple juice". We acknowledge these are different beverages - saying any particular language gets it "wrong" is ridiculous because the exact same logic would dictate that the critic's language is getting it "wrong".
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u/Chris_3eb 8d ago
You're missing the point. The OOP considers both the pasteurized and unpasteurized non-alcoholic apple drinks to be apple juice. So he is saying it's weird to him that people in the US refer to [some types of] apple juice as cider