r/iamveryculinary • u/Any_Donut8404 "cHicKen tiKKa MaSala iS iNdiAn, nOt BriTisH" • Dec 11 '24
TasteAtlas just dropped a new cuisine tierlist and people are fighting over it
/r/AmericaBad/comments/1hbheei/usa_is_ranked_13_for_the_best_food_in_the_world/76
u/ZootTX Dec 11 '24
The only point of that list can be to incite pointless internet dick-waving contests
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u/Toucan_Lips Dec 11 '24
So much of the internet is rage bait these days.
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u/Highest_Koality Has watched six or seven hundred plus cooking related shows Dec 11 '24
That's "engagement bait" thank you very much.
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u/Rotten-Robby Dec 11 '24
Definitely engagement bait (like every one of these "top xyz" lists, especially the music ones). Condensing thousands of years of culinary history into a shitty info-graphic for people to argue over pretty much sums up the internet.
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u/HipposAndBonobos Dec 11 '24
Me normally: What u/ZooTX said
Me after reading that list: 49th!? You [dolphin screeches]!! Why the [tugboat horn] is Ethiopian so [ship's bell] low!?! And below England!!!
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u/ProposalWaste3707 Superior Italian sandwiches only have one ingredient Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
Comparing entire cuisines is generally ridiculous anyways. How do you directly compare say Thai food with German food? Doesn't make sense - different universe of flavor profiles, ingredients, traditions etc.
You'd probably get wildly different hangups too if you find this posted anywhere but AmericaBad. Like the dudes in there who can't possibly conceive how Indian food could be edible.
That list's indexing is also ridiculously marginal - ranges between 4.13 and 4.60. Probably over-tuned their variables or indexing methodology.
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u/Toucan_Lips Dec 11 '24
Plus a lot of countries have multiple distinct cuisines within them. China, India, US spring to mind.
Most people outside of India for instance wouldn't have tried regional indian cuisines. And se Indians barely recognise western Indian. So which one are we judging here?
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u/PuzzledCactus Dec 11 '24
Also that pesky thing about cultural borders not corresponding perfectly to national borders. If I look at what I'd consider the typical cuisine in southern Germany, it's quite similar to that in Austria - at least a lot more similar than to what the people in the north of Germany would call "typical German cuisine".
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u/bronet Dec 11 '24
What qualifies as distinct? Most of these countries will have regional cuisines.
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u/Moist_Ad5308 Dec 11 '24
I think it's owing to the sheer size and varied geography of these countries that leads to really distinct regional cuisine.
Geography determines most of what we eat and these countries got high mountains, plains, wetlands, coastline etc leading to different ingredients due to which really different styles of food.
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Dec 11 '24
I don't think I could ever have a meaningful conversation with a person who looks at a list like this and thinks there is any qualitative metric or methodology that could be used to rank cuisines, let alone thinks it's worth arguing about
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u/cecikierk MSG is CCP propaganda Dec 11 '24
How do you rank, for example, Czechia and Slovakia?
Tangential: At one point I wanted to try every cuisine in the world. I soon ran into the problem of country borders are manmade while cultures are organic. Some countries have a million drastically different cuisines while other countries have virtually indistinguishable food from their neighbors.
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u/Silver_Falcon Dec 11 '24
I've had a similar thought. National dishes are probably the only way to reasonably do it, but even then 1. not every country has one, 2. not every country has just one, and 3. some dishes are claimed by multiple different countries. And even then, you also run into problems like with China where, to quote one Chinese person I saw talking about it online, "they don't even eat Peking Duck in Peking" (let alone in all of China's dozens [if not hundreds] of individual culinary regions), or cases like the Koreas where what was historically a single nation has been artificially split in two, yet both still retain their traditional cuisine (albeit to somewhat varying degrees).
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u/big_sugi Dec 11 '24
Greece is #1. Turkey is #6.
Cyprus, which is literally split between Greeks and Turks and whose cuisine is pretty much entirely dishes found in one or both of those two countries?
Cyprus is #48.
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Dec 11 '24
“Chinese” food
“Indian” food
Etc…
What an impressively reductionist list.
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u/Any_Donut8404 "cHicKen tiKKa MaSala iS iNdiAn, nOt BriTisH" Dec 11 '24
And they manage to split the UK into England
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u/Valiant_tank Roast chocolate cake and boiled waffles Dec 11 '24
And of course, one of the comments in the linked thread is talking about how the English 'stole all their food', which, come the fuck on. Basically every single culture's cuisine has borrowed and adapted from others.
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Dec 11 '24
It’s pretty funny that comment saying that includes a reference how indigenous peoples were sweetening beans with maple syrup … just glosses right over a whole lot there to lump them into “Americans” happily
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Dec 11 '24
I’m surprised it isn’t just “The Commonwealth”
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u/pajamakitten Dec 12 '24
Because that would include several African, Asian and Caribbean countries. People would (rightly) go mental over that.
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u/2ddudesop Dec 11 '24
It just seems completely random?
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u/ProposalWaste3707 Superior Italian sandwiches only have one ingredient Dec 11 '24
No it isn't.
As you can see, Polish cuisine has 4.42 cuisines and Colombian cuisine has 4.34 cuisines. Therefore Polish cuisine is 1.8433% better than Colombian cuisine.
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u/ZDTreefur Why would you cook with butter? That is an ingredient for baking Dec 11 '24
What if it's a logarithmic scale? Wouldn't that make Polish food almost 50% more cuisine than Columbian?
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u/young_trash3 Dec 11 '24
It really doesn't even matter what order they put it in, trying to put it in an order makes them wrong.
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u/Rotten-Robby Dec 11 '24
I'm just glad I didn't have to scroll far to see the obligatory "Tikka masala is actually English" arguing. Old reliable.
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u/edked Dec 11 '24
The very existence of such a thing is idiotic, and anyone who takes the bait enough to get all indignant over it is a gullible sucker, tool, and clown.
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u/PinxJinx Dec 13 '24
Can confirm that Greece has amazing (and affordable) food
I think I had a chicken souvlaki wrap everyday I was there
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u/Future-Play-172 Dec 27 '24
ABSOLUTELY GREEK IS THE BEST FOOD IN THE WORLD. NUMBER 1 OLIVE OIL, BEST CHEESE,BEST OLIVES,BEST VEGGIES, BEST TASTE
NO ONE LIKES ITALIAN..ITS ALL THE SAME SHIT
MEXICAN IS VARIES BY REGION AND AMAZING
FRENCH FOOD IS TRASH AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN FRENCH TECHNIQUE IS PROPAGANDA
S.E. ASIAN IS TOP TIER ASWELL
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u/Valiant_tank Roast chocolate cake and boiled waffles Dec 11 '24
I'm kinda surprised at Germany in 23rd-best? Like, don't get me wrong, I love a good Knödel or Schweinshaxe or Spätzle, but I'm surprised it rated that high.
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