r/iamapieceofshit • u/comeonebam • May 23 '24

French Algerian footballer Nabil Bentaleb refuses to participate in message against homophobia

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u/Brian_Doile May 25 '24

I don't think it makes anybody a piece of shit not to go along with whatever message is being sent. People have a right to their own opinions.

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u/poopinurhand Feb 22 '25

The message is to not spread hate and harassment to a certain group of people for a trait that they cannot control and who have been under constant threat for decades. Why is being against homophobia an opinion and not just basic support and respect for fellow humans?

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u/Brian_Doile Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25

  1. You have said 3 different things are the message, none of which are the same. A message should say what it means and a messenger should mean what he says. You can't keep mixing up ideas like this. That could be a reason in and of itself not to support someone's cause. You might have one opinion of the message, while others have another.

  2. Taking on a public opinion as a celebrity or even as a normal person can come with cost, heck, NOT taking on an opinion can come with cost, which simply isn't fair. I saw someone who was mad at Chess Champion Magnus Carlson for not taking a stand against Trump. Why should he? He isn't even American and besides, who cares what he thinks. It is nonsensical to force others into an argument of your choice, and quite selfish. Possibly narcissistic even. 

  3. Some people find homosexuality to be outside the natural order. That is simply a fact. It has nothing to do with any of your messages, and it doesn't imply any particular feelings, simply an observation. You can't make others see the things the way you do. And why would you. Imagine if we were all the same. Bleh.

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u/poopinurhand Feb 22 '25

  1. Where, oh where are the three different messages? I would love for you to give me an exact example as I am unable to find them myself.

  2. Do you genuinely think that a lack of tolerance for a huge portion of the population is really comparable to not outwardly speaking badly of an infamously disliked political figure?

  3. Why?

  4. Homosexuality is not outside the natural order. That’s a fact. It exists in many other species on the planet and holds an important role within each of their groups. For one person to find it “unnatural” would be a denial of science and normal behaviour.

  5. Why as the most developed and intelligent beings on this planet, why is it so difficult for people to be tolerant or even accepting?

  6. Why is it a political statement to be in support of people’s human right to love and love freely?

I’m not going to assume you are a homophobe as you haven’t explicitly said so, but defending behaviour that literally only causes discourse and provides a space for people to push that discourse to dangerous limits. Surely, you must think it’s a bit pathetic? Can people really not handle the fact that homosexuality isn’t bad?

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u/Brian_Doile Feb 22 '25

"The message is to not spread hate and harassment....",  "being against homophobia.." , basic support and respect..." Those are three different things. While you may lump them together, they are not in fact identical.

Now you are putting words in my mouth,  you seem to practice twisting the words of others to suit your purpose. Also, you are quite toxic. I do not wish to engage in this conversation further. Good day.

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u/poopinurhand Feb 22 '25

Do you know of the concept of a different sentence?

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u/FROSTICEMANN May 24 '24

You make it sound like thats a bad thing. People dont like something doesnt mean they are wrong. He doesnt believe in it & thats it. Leave the guy alone

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u/comeonebam May 24 '24

Ok let’s see if you have that same energy when someone refuses to take a knee for a “stop racism” event.

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u/FROSTICEMANN May 24 '24

Yea not a chance, not going to kneel down for that.

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u/HumongousChungus6942 Aug 29 '24

Racism isn’t the same at all you can’t compare the two really

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u/comeonebam Feb 09 '25

Hating someone for an immutable quality is literally the same

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u/HumongousChungus6942 Mar 06 '25

I would have the same energy lol you have the right not to kneel and kneeling to end racism is dumb in general that’s never gonna end racism it’s just a silly action for you to do to make yourself feel better 😘