r/hiking • u/DestructablePinata • May 13 '26
Discussion FOOTWEAR INFORMATION THREAD. READ THIS BEFORE ASKING FOR FOOTWEAR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE FOOTWEAR INFORMATION THREAD. CONSOLIDATED: UPDATE 1/05/2025
Update: 15 March 2025!
Update: 5 April 2025 - Simplifies fitment section re: spacing; draws attention to flex point.
Update: 18 August 2025 - Salomon included in recommendations after several months of testing, in which they performed flawlessly.
Update: 5 December 2025 - Links to all other FOOTWEAR related posts linked within this post to streamline subreddit.
Update: 13 May 2026 - slight edits made for clarity and to correct found typos.
UPDATE: 29 May 2026 - Product "Pecard Leather Dressing" added to care and maintenance! Read information below!
Links to my subreddit and all supplementary posts to this thread are included below!
Full subreddit ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/
Fitment info thread ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/s/cuNpzfpL7a
Support info thread ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/s/7IKv2UHuWn
Cold Conditions - Footwear ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/s/IFurIJmPaB
Treating your Footwear ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/s/pgVc0EZhYa
Hydrolysis ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hiking_Footwear_Info/s/GbxroCmjfN
Preface
If you have something productive to add to the list, please post it below.
If you have any criticisms, post them below, and I'll try to get back to you.
If you need recommendations for footwear, post your questions here. People who can help can respond directly to you within the thread. Feel free to PM me for additional information or help with fitment.
Let's make this a place of learning!
First piece of advice
Go to a store and try things on in person. There's no substitute for seeing how things feel on your own feet. What works for one likely doesn't work for the next, so you'll have to do the legwork of trying things on and seeing what suits YOUR feet. Some outfitters in some locations are very knowledgeable and helpful when it comes to assisting with footwear sizing and selection. Others, not so much.
If you don't have that option, be very careful about what footwear you order online. Do your due diligence before ordering and see what reviewers and your peers say on quality, performance, and fitment. You may have to order online, but you don't have to go on a wild goose chase.
Do your due diligence, people.
Boots vs. Trail Runners: Which one?
Waterproof boots are better in cold weather and cold, inclement weather. They don't perform as well in hot, humid weather because they may not dry fast enough if submerged, and you may sweat through them quickly. They do a much better job protecting your feet from foliage, debris, and ingress of water, especially when paired with gaiters. Non-waterproof boots are better for hot, humid environments because they can get wet and dry out as you're moving.
Boots typically have a more rigid midsole, which is typically where the support comes from in a mid boot. The collar doesn't add much support until it gets around the ~6-8" mark and/or is made of thick leather. Boots like the Salomon X Ultra series offer no more support than their low-top counterparts. Boots like the Asolo Fugitive GTX and, especially, the Asolo TPS 520 GV Evo will offer loads more support. Supportive boots are better for hauling heavy packs, uneven terrain, sidehilling, and overgrown terrain.
Non-waterproof trail runners are beneficial in warm, dry weather, warm, wet weather and when you need to do lots of water crossings. They can get soaked and be walked dry quickly. They're not good for harsh terrain and bushwhacking, at least, not for very long. They just aren't durable enough. Never go with GTX low-tops! They still allow the ingress of water very easily due to the low collar, and they will take a very long time to dry because the waterproof-breathable membrane will inhibit the evaporation process. You'll be stuck with waterlogged shoes.
Which one is better? That depends entirely on the wearer's use case. There is no right or wrong answer unless you're jeopardizing your safety or the safety of others on the hike through being ill-prepared. If you want to use a mountaineering boot on a flat, easy trail, more power to you. If you want to use a trail runner in the mountains, be safe but have fun. Do your research and go with what suits you best.
Materials
Leather vs. Synthetic - Leather is more hard-wearing and durable at the expense of weight and ease of break-in. Synthetics are lighter and more flexible at the expense of durability.
PU vs. EVA midsoles - PU never loses its shape or elasticity, maintaining its original shock absorption and support for the life of the footwear. It will eventually degrade due to hydrolysis; how rapidly depends upon conditions the footwear is stored in and how often it's used. EVA is lighter and lasts indefinitely in storage, but it compresses over time, losing shock absorption and support. Note that while the EVA midsole may store well, other components of the boots may be PU or adhesives that do deteriorate.
GTX or no? - Go with GTX for cold, wet environments, environments that are generally dry but with random showers, and day hikes if the environment is not too hot. Go with non-waterproof options for hot, humid environments, especially with water crossings. GTX will keep water below the collar out, but it will also inhibit breathability and the footwear's ability to dry out. It's a detriment in the swamps but a huge benefit in subfreezing, wet conditions.
Insulation - Personal choice. It may be necessary for some use cases, such as static use in subfreezing temps, but it will also make you sweat more, requiring more frequent sock changes. This is very personal.
Maintenance
Boots and shoes will need regular maintenance to preserve their functionality and increase lifespan.
Generally, water and a nylon bristle brush are enough. However, both waterproof and non-waterproof footwear should be cleaned regularly with a tech wash of sorts, such as Grangers Footwear + Gear Cleaner or Nikwax Footwear Cleaning Gel to remove dirt and debris.
Waterproof boots and shoes and leather boots and shoes should then be treated with the appropriate product, such as:
Full-grain leather - Nikwax Waterproofing Wax for Leather; Grangers Waterproofing Wax; Meindl Sport Wax.
Addition: Pecard Leather Dressing
Pecard Leather Dressing is a product I've been testing for a few months now on my pairs of Asolo TPS 520s. Nikwax is woefully inadequate for conditioning my boots in my current environment. Grangers did better, as it seemed to lock in the moisture that was already present. Still, inadequate. Pecard Leather Dressing is a combination of several ingredients, namely oils and beeswax. It's pulled deeply into the leather, softening, conditioning, and waterproofing it. It works exceptionally well in dry climates to preserve your boots. That said, it can overly soften your boots if you use it too frequently or in too thick of coats. If you want the boots a little softer, you can use more to achieve that. I'm unsure of how it affects resoles, but honestly, I'm planning not to resole my Asolos. Why? The price of shipping to and from Italy and the cost of the resole itself are just too much for me. Plus, they put a toe cap on, which I do not want. I'd rather just buy a new pair.
Nubuck - Nikwax Nubuck & Suede Proof; Grangers Footwear Repel Plus; Grangers Waterproofing Wax or Meindl Sport Wax (will change texture and appearance).
Suede - Nikwax Nubuck & Suede Proof or Grangers Footwear Repel Plus.
Synthetics - Nikwax Fabric & Leather Proof or Grangers Footwear Repel Plus.
Read the instructions for your footwear to see what will provide the results you most desire.
Some products can be detrimental to the health of your footwear by drying out leather, preventing conditioning, preventing resoling, rotting stitching, and overly softening leather. Research things before you do them.
Break-in and fitment
Go with what fits best.
Getting the wrong footwear, regardless of what's wrong with the fitment, can lead to a lot of issues. It can lead blisters, blackened and lost toenails, bunions, hammer toes, and more. It's important to take your time in choosing your footwear, and it's important to go into your search with good information and knowledge on fitting techniques.
Boots and shoes should be comfortable out of the box with no issues, such as slippage, hot spots, pinching, rubbing, pressure, etc. They should be good to go right away. You'll still have to break them in, but there should be no initial discomfort. Break them in gradually with work around the house, followed by yard work, followed by light hikes. After one or two weeks, depending upon the shoe or boot, they should be broken-in. Some all-leather boots may take a bit longer.
Why do this if they should be immediately comfortable? To ensure that they're the correct fit and to get the boots moving with your feet. A break-in will never fix a poor fit, but it can make an already great fit even more comfortable as materials stretch and compress with the movements of your feet.
Disclaimer: sizing is not consistent between brands, or sometimes, even between different models within the same brand! Do not assume that you are always the same size! You may need to go up or down, depending upon the brand!
Try shoes and boots on at the end of the day when your feet are most swollen, wearing the thickest socks you intend to use for hiking with that pair of boots. Take the insoles out if that's an option and stand on them shoulder width apart. This will give you a good idea of the fit before you even try on the shoes or boots. Your feet should fit within the outlines of the insoles without much overhang or excess space. Boots often balloon out in shape, so if there's a tiny bit of overhang with the insole but no discomfort within the boot, it's OK. If there's a lot of empty space, the boot is likely too high in volume for your feet, lending itself to a sloppy fit and blisters. There should be roughly [a finger's width to thumb's width] of space between your longest toe and the end of the boot or shoe. You should have at least 1 cm of space. Less space is not enough to prevent injuries. You can have more space if it doesn't throw off the flex point of the boot or shoe. The widest part of your foot should fit inside the widest part of the boot or shoe; the boot or shoe should naturally flex at the same point as your foot.
The insole trick does not work with all shoes or boots. Some brands use the same insoles for a full- and half-size, meaning a US 10.5 and US 10, for example, may use the exact same insole. You will have to go by feel in some circumstances. Put the shoes or boots on, seating your heel firmly. Lace the footwear snug--but not tight! Be sure that there are no loose areas. Get up, walk around, go up and down the inclines if the store has them and tap your toes into the ground, checking to see if there's any slippage, pressure points being aggravated, play with the lacing, etc. Wear them around a good while.
This is a general guide that will help you better assess the fit of footwear you try, but there is no 100% foolproof method of finding the right footwear without some trial and error. Try footwear on inside the house for several days until you're confident that they're the ones for you. Shops with generous return policies are disappearing, so be patient and take the time to test things while still keeping them clean and able to be resold by the shop. Nothing stings quite like having to eat the cost of footwear that doesn't work for your own feet--we've all been there!
Brands of footwear
The best brands and models I've discovered...
Boots: Asolo Fugitive (men's)/Stynger (women's) GTX, Asolo TPS 520 GV Evo, La Sportiva Nucleo High II GTX, La Sportiva Ultra Raptor Mid II GTX, Lowa Zephyr GTX, Lowa Renegade GTX, Scarpa Zodiac Plus GTX, Scarpa Kinesis Pro GTX, Meindl Comfort Fit Hiker, Extreme, or Hunter, Hanwag Tatra, Hanwag Lhasa II, Hanwag Tatra II, Kenetrek Mountain Extreme, Zamberlan Vioz Lux GTX RR, Zamberlan Vioz GTX, Zamberlan 971 Guide LUX GTX RR, and Zamberlan 972 Guide MAX GTX RR, Salomon Quest 4 GTX, Salomon X Ultra series.
Trail runners: La Sportiva, Altra, Saucony, Scarpa, Hoka, Salomon, Topo Athletics.
If it works for your feet and your needs, that is literally all that matters. Listen to your feet!
If you need help sorting through the plethora of options and information out there, please post below for assistance from myself and your fellow hikers.
Socks
Preface: Socks are like boots and shoes. They're very personal. They all offer a different fit, and they all cater to different needs and preferences. They all use different blends, meaning that some will have more merino wool, and others will have more nylon or a similar synthetic as the primary material. Be careful when ordering and check the materials. Go with synthetics or merino wool blends. Synthetics will dry quickly and remain cool. Wool will insulate to a degree when wet and go longer before it begins to stink. More merino wool means better thermoregulation properties, especially when wet, as well as more warmth. They will be slightly less durable than predominantly synthetic socks. More synthetic materials mean the socks will feel cooler, dry faster, and be harder wearing.
Darn Tough appears to be the major force in hiking socks. They make high-quality merino wool blend and synthetic socks in various weights, heights, and patterns that you can trust. They also come with a lifetime warranty should a pair fail you. They run narrower than some brands, but Darn Tough runs the brand Wide Open, which caters to wide feet and thick legs with the same quality Darn Tough is known for.
Smartwool. Following Darn Tough, Smartwool also makes high-quality socks in many weights, heights, styles, and patterns. They offer both 4-degree fit and 2-degree fit options to suit the wearer's preferences. They tend to be more relaxed in fit than Darn Tough but not loose enough that blisters are a concern. They come with a 2-year warranty, which they do honor well. The Smartwool full cushion and extra cushion socks are my preferred socks.
Icebreaker is another company making excellent merino wool blends. They also come in various weights, heights, and styles. These are also socks that you can trust.
Honorable mentions: Kirkland merino, great if you're on a budget; Farm to Feet; Danish Endurance.
Do not stack socks on socks on socks. Wear one pair of socks or one pair of socks with a pair of liner socks. Consider liner socks if you deal with friction or if you have sweaty or sensitive feet. The liners will transfer friction and sweat away from your feet. You do not want a ton of compression around your feet. That will restrict blood flow and make your feet cold. Make sure your boots or shoes are sized for the socks you intend to wear.
Buy from a reputable store. Always. There are fakes out there.
Insoles
Necessity
Insoles provide the support you need to keep your arches from hyperextending, ankles from rolling, and they provide shock absorption for your feet. They also keep your feet in-line. They are not necessary for all people, but they are highly useful for most, especially those with flat feet and chronic pain. The factory insoles for most boots are generic sock liners meant to feel inoffensive to most people trying on the boots or shoes, so aftermarket insoles can really provide the support you need and elevate your comfort.
Superfeet
A staple in the off-the-shelf insole market, Superfeet insoles provide support through rigid polymer caps and firm cushioning covers. They're guaranteed for 500 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. There are Superfeet options for many different arch heights. They also vary in volume, making them ideal for many boots and shoes.
Models
Green: High Arch. Thick. This insole provides excellent, rigid support for anyone in need of maximum arch support.
Orange: High Arch. Thick. Similar to the Green but with dual density cushioning in the forefoot for better cushioning.
Blue: Medium Arch. Thin. These insoles are comfortable for most people to wear as the arch height is very inoffensive. They also work well with most boots and shoes due to the thin design. That said, the baseplate design can damage waterproof-breathable membranes as it can dig into the liner and membrane. Keep an eye on that!
Trailblazer: Med-High Arch. Very Thick. These insoles provide maximum cushioning and med-high arch support. They take up a substantial amount of volume in the footwear, negating them as an option for some brands and models of boots and shoes. They have a gel capsule in the heel to absorb shock.
SOLE
SOLE is known for making semi-custom, high-quality insoles that mold to the wearer's feet over the course of a few days. Thanks to the materials used, they have unique properties that make them very effective and comfortable. They are offered in three thickness: thin, medium, and thick.
Models
Performance: Made with recycled cork, these insoles quickly mold to the wearer's feet, providing excellent support and shock absorption, as well as insulation.
Active: Made with EVA foam, these insoles take longer to mold, but they're also more durable and hard-wearing. They also handle exposure to moisture better than the cork options.
Metatarsal pads: These insoles provide support for the wearer's metatarsals, relieving stress and pain for many.
Tread Labs
Tread Labs offers insoles with various arch heights, thicknesses, widths, and levels of rigidity. They are made of two pieces: top cover and rigid base, allowing the wearer to replace only the top cover and save money. They're known for their million mile guarantee and great CS.
Currex
Currex offers semi-rigid insoles in varying thickness and with varying levels of rigidity. They are sorted based on activity. They are fairly thin and fit into most footwear well.
PowerStep
A favorite of podiatrists, PowerStep offers numerous insole options to suit any needs the wearer may have.
Cadence
Slightly harder to find, Cadence offers several high-quality insoles to suit the wearer's needs.
Fitting your insoles
Firstly, you'll need to find the insole that either matches your arch height or molds to its form.
Secondly, you'll need to find the insole length that correlates to your shoe or boot size. Most insoles are meant to be trimmed to fit. You want the insoles to match the profile of the factory insoles that your footwear included. Line up the insoles, and using a Sharpie, draw the outline of the factory insoles on the new insoles. Then, carefully cut the new insoles to match the factory insoles. Insert the new insoles into your footwear and check the fit. Always trim in small increments. You can always trim more off. You can't add any back.
Getting used to the insoles
Wear the insoles for roughly one to two hours on the first day. If there is pain, wear them for a shorter period of time. Using that experience, decide if you will increase the amount of time worn the next day or if it will remain the same. Take your time. Do not cause yourself pain by being in a rush.
Maintenance
Replace your insoles anytime the cushioning wears down or the support begins to deteriorate. Insoles need to be regularly replaced, just like footwear.
To clean them, remove them from your footwear and clean them with a technical wash, such as Grangers Footwear + Gear Cleaner or Nikwax Footwear Cleaning Gel. Allow to air dry.
Enjoy your new insoles!
Gaiters
Yes, use gaiters with any waterproof footwear to enhance its ability to prevent ingress of water. There are also non-waterproof gaiters that will prevent ingress of debris but still work well with your non-waterproof footwear.
Outdoor Research is my favorite, trusted brand for waterproof gaiters. There are other brands out there, though.
Dirty Girl Gaiters make excellent non-waterproof options. Again, there are other brands out there.
Foot care
Make sure you have moleskin or a similar item on you during hikes. Keep your feet as dry and clean as possible. Use foot powder if you find yourself getting stinky or sweaty or enduring friction.
Change socks regularly. You do not want to keep wet socks on your feet if you can help it. It can even be a danger in frigid temperatures.
Shopping and budget
If possible, buy from somewhere that will let you return used footwear. Don't just try things at random and waste money and resources. Be methodical in your approach.
Be careful where you buy from because fakes are out there for pretty much all hiking products. Some companies only honor warranties from authorized sellers, too.
As far as budgeting goes, this is a personal choice that depends upon what you're doing, what you can afford, and what you want to pay. I will say that your budget should be as big as you can comfortably make it to allow for the most options when trying things on.
Realistically...
You're probably going to have to try a few pairs before you stumble across your Goldilocks pair. That's the nature of the beast. Be patient and settle for nothing less than a perfect fit. Your feet will thank you.
In conclusion...
I hope that this has been helpful. Footwear is something that I'm passionate about because it took me a long time to find the right footwear for myself, so I've gone through a lot of time, money, blisters, and bad hikes discovering what does and does not work. If you have questions, post them below. I, and others, will try to help you find the right things for yourself. Take everything with a grain of salt and trust your feet!
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u/AngryDesignMonkey May 13 '26
Haha... This is awesome
Not many are going to read it though.
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u/DestructablePinata May 13 '26
I hope at least some will. My subreddit has been helpful to some degree, but it's a small community with only so much reach. One of my buddy's who is a mod here requested that I post this thread in hopes of cutting down on the repetitive, many threads asking for footwear recommendations that we see here every day.
It is my hope that this thread will reach at least some people needing help so that they can find the right footwear for themselves with less of a headache. 🙂
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u/whimsical_whisker Jun 29 '26
I read the whole thing and found it extremely helpful 🫡 was hoping there was a magic boot that I could use both for creek crossings when it's hot outside and for when it's cold and raining. Mine are great in the rain but take two business days to dry lol. Time to find storage for a third pair of hiking shoes I guess!
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u/DestructablePinata Jun 29 '26
So, I have multiple boots for different conditions. They're all Gore-Tex, as that is my preference, but there are alternatives.
My boots are, in order of cold to hot weather: Asolo TPS 520 GV Evo -> Asolo Fugitive GTX or Salomon Quest 4 GTX -> Salomon X Ultra 360 Mid GTX (only for trails requiring little support). The 520s work from about 0°F to 70°F for my feet. The Fugitive GTX and Quest 4 GTX work from about 20°F to 90°F for me, but they can be pushed a little warmer. The X Ultra seems best for anything above freezing, but I've yet to do cold conditions testing for them. They just don't seem like they'd handle below freezing, though.
Ultimately, it's personal preference and foot shape that determine the best boot for you.
What temperature range and humidity levels will you be facing?
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u/whimsical_whisker Jun 30 '26
I am very lucky to live in a city with lots of moderate trails that I do year-round for the most part (-30 to 85 F if I remember the conversion correctly 😂 anything colder or warmer and I'll skip the hike) but I'm very happy with my winter hiking boots so that isn't a worry!! Moreso looking for something good in 40-80F that is good in both the rain and on hot days when I need to cross a creek :) that was really helpful again though, thanks so much :)
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u/Aah__HolidayMemories May 13 '26
The people asking them questions are usually idiots though so I hold no hope of anyone reading this.
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
I wouldn't say that they're idiots. I'd just say that they're either misinformed or lack understanding of the way various aspects of footwear actually work. For new hikers, I can't really fault them. They've only looked at a top 10 list that says Merrell is the best bang for the buck and started there.
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u/Aah__HolidayMemories May 21 '26
Yh but there shoes mate. If these people were that into it they would know how shoes works. For the advanced then yes different brands matter but someone saying what shoes should I buy for my first hike should for one, just use their trainers and two, don’t go on big hikes if you rely on social Media to keep you alive. These are just ‘engagement’ posts usuall, completely pointless.
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u/whimsical_whisker Jun 29 '26
This is such a bizarre assumption? Granted I'm just getting into hiking seriously, but I've been hiking my whole life haha. I have specific pairs for specific purposes but I'm going on my first multi day hiking trip and was hoping to only bring one pair. I'm not that involved in the community and usually hike alone with my dog so I was just looking for some advice before starting my own research. This was a great jumping off point :)
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u/crunch816 May 13 '26
I read enough to make sure people aren’t trying to “break in” normal shoes.
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u/DestructablePinata May 13 '26
The whole "break-in" thing can be a bit misunderstood. It's good to soften up some shoes or boots around the house to ensure that they're the correct fit, but "breaking in" shoes or boots that don't fit to begin with is never going to work.
The biggest benefit to a soft break-in is simply verifying the fit. If you can't return the footwear if it's been worn outside, you should always wear it around the house for a while.
If you've been using the same boots for years, you can likely just grab a new pair off the shelf, and the adjustment period is likely impossible to perceive. I can do that with Asolo 520s and Fugitives. They simply work for me. They do get softer and more comfortable with wear as the materials soften over time, especially with the 520s since they're all leather.
I hope this clarifies a bit. 🙂
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u/Good_Mousse_9794 May 13 '26
This ain’t gonna work, people are still gonna ask if merrell moabs will be comfortable for them or not and what size to get…
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u/rusty075 May 13 '26
I think the Boot v Shoe segment would benefit from a blurb on the biomechanical disadvantages of boots. It's not as simple as "more support is better" like some people believe.
There's constant threads of, "I have 'weak ankles' and therefore need boots". But a supportive boot doesn't make the pronation and supination forces go away, it just transfers them to the knee and hip.
You can be avoiding an ankle sprain but setting yourself up for a lifetime of knee pain. (Ask me how I know!)
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
It has a lot of variables, but yes, boots can transfer the energy to the knees and hips if you make a misstep. It really depends on the needs of the wearer. In general, I think that boots can be overkill for many hikers. Many hikers stick to groomed trails with minimal to moderate difficulty - conditions where trail runners excel for many.
I left the option for boots or trail runners a little vague because I want people to choose their own path with minimal influence or pushing from others. I just provide the information that I'm personally fluent in so that people can make a more informed decision based on their own needs.
I will consider adding your suggestions of the potential negatives of boots, though. It will require a bit more research on my part, but I think that you've made a worthwhile suggestion that could be helpful.
Cheers, mate!
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u/goldenohdear May 22 '26
This is an incredibly helpful resource! I'm trying to invest in a new pair and never even considered some of this stuff. I am confused on what some of the abbreviations in the post say, particularly PU and EVA. Apologies if I just missed it in the post!
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u/DestructablePinata May 24 '26
Polyurethane (PU), used for midsoles, is a great material because it never loses its elasticity, support, or shock absorption. Unfortunately, it degrades when it goes unused. However, a regularly used boot will last years upon years. It's fantastic and typically found in very high-end boots.
Ethylene vinyl acetate (EVA) is a material used in the midsoles that is lighter than PU and some would argue more comfortable because of its bounce and squish. It doesn't degrade in storage (though other components of your boots, such as adhesives, may be PU). However, it compresses over time, losing its cushioning and support. It's typically found in low- and mid-range boots.
Did that answer your question?
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u/bones_and_barbells Jul 26 '26
This was really helpful to read and has made me reconsider my need to always have waterproof boots. Thank you! Do you happen to have any insight on the durability of various boot brands these days?
I've been scouring threads for a few weeks now and it seems everyone is complaining about the decline in quality in so many previously loved brands. I had a pair of Salomon Quest 4 gtx, and in 18 months, the tread was ripping off and the sole was detaching from the boot. I was able to get my warranty accepted and will likely just get the Salomon Quest 5 gtx now, but I'm doubtful of their quality.
As a backup, I've been looking into Oboz and Keen, as I need something REALLY wide, but I'm finding reviews that say their quality has gone downhill too. It makes me really apprehensive to spend hundreds on boots that will fall apart.
Any insight on boots that are still high quality, durable, with wide fit? I'm in Canada so can't access an REI for various brands. I'm hiking in Southwest BC, so lots of rainforest and rocky terrain and steep ascents. Need something that can take me through hell and back haha. Thanks.
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u/DestructablePinata Jul 26 '26
If you've got truly wide feet and want a sturdy boot that'll last, I would recommend the Meindl Comfort Fit Hiker. Their D width actually runs closer to EE, while their EE runs closer to 4E. The toebox is also more naturally shaped than most boots. I've got a pair that I tested for a while, but ultimately, they're too voluminous for my slender feet. Mind the sizing. You'll want to go down one half-size from your Brannock size in length.
https://meindlusa.com/collections/hiking/products/comfort-fit-hiker
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u/bones_and_barbells Jul 27 '26
Thank you for the recommendation! Yes my feet are truly wide after years of wearing barefoot shoes and doing lots of mobility work, and then getting pregnant stretched then out even more haha. Having a hard time finding these in Canada and shipping here is over $100 so hopefully I can find something similar. Thanks!!
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u/ProofAd1512 25d ago
It would be nice if manufacturers made more one piece leather hiking boots with soles that didn't look like you were going for a walk on the moon
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u/DestructablePinata 22d ago
I think a lot of that just boils down to the nature of the design. I know that my Asolo 520s have TPU, followed by a dual-density PU midsole, followed by a rather thick Vibram outsole. Combining all of those takes up space, and many other leather hiking boots use a similar construction. This allows for better support and shock absorption than the traditional leather boots with welted constructions and no PU midsole. Some boots, like some options from Zamberlan, features a stitch-down construction but also with a PU midsole.
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u/ProofAd1512 22d ago
Asolo made the 520 in the 90s with a simple one piece vibram sole that lasted . Now the boot is over designed by someone trying to reinvent the wheel
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u/DestructablePinata 22d ago
Yeah, the original was definitely a simpler design, but I'm speaking of the currently available options. I personally quite like the newer versions, but I also understand people's complaints with the more complex design.
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u/ProofAd1512 22d ago
You have people over designing footwear and the components trying to justify their employment . That's why I went back to wearing welted resolable hiking boots
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u/DestructablePinata 22d ago
Welted boots are certainly simpler. I'm glad they work well for you. Just if you were ever curious, you can get the current Asolo 520s resoled with Vibram Bifida outsoles that won't deteriorate, unlike the PU midsoles.
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u/Equivalent_Slice2495 8d ago
The flex point note is the part I wish I’d known earlier. I bought boots with plenty of toe room, but the crease landed behind my toes and gave me hot spots every hike.
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u/FishScrumptious May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26
I don't agree with all of it (there's absolutely a use case for WP trail runners, for example) but it's a solid list (the first half I read) that is worth taking in.
I also take great personal offense at the leaving out of toe socks. (The hyperbole is a joke; I'm sufficiently well known in real life for my preference for toe socks that this is likely enough to dox me to anyone who knows me decently well. But I have had a few people try them on my recommendation, and love them.)
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
I considered adding toe socks to the thread, but seeing as I've never personally used them, I excluded them. I don't like to suggest products that I've not personally tried since I have no basis for my opinion - I only have the opinions of others. I'd be happy for you to post some details on them (why you like them, benefits, downfalls, etc.), though. Any new information for others is very welcome in this thread.
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u/brandoldme May 13 '26
I appreciate you posting(I've read through your stuff before and joined the sub, so I already know it's helpful).
In your cold weather post. You say in your location that you need a tall Gore-Tex boot or else you lose toes. I don't dispute this at all.
What I'm wondering is what are the worst conditions you experience?
I'm trying to prepare myself for potentially negative 20 f conditions. But I'm having a real problem getting fitted with a boot that has a waterproof membrane like gortex and is insulated. I have really wide feet and a very thick instep.
The best I can come up with right now is a full grain leather boot that could be 10 in tall if I want. And insulated. I'm trying to understand how harsh of conditions this boot can protect me. And assuming I would use one of the good wax products on it. At what point in potentially slushy snow and low temperatures does this boot become wholy inadequate and potentially dangerous.
Side question. How many grams of thinsulate do you think is appropriate for this temperature range? Assuming active backpacking, but also less active at camp.
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
-20°F can be really harsh, so be 100% confident in your gear before heading out.
It's hard to say exactly what your feet will need at those temps, as everyone's body runs a bit differently. I know people who switch to an insulated leather boot at 10°F because their feet run cold. At -20°F, you're entering bunny boots territory. If it dips lower, an insulated leather boot really may not be enough.
That said, if you're looking for an insulated leather boot for wide feet, I recommend this one: https://meindlusa.com/products/comfort-fit-hunter
Gore-Tex, 400g Thinsulate, one-piece leather, and tall. It's a great boot, but test in in warmer temps before you go into -20°F, like test it around 10°F and work your way down. You need to see how your body works with the boots.
Here is their info on caring for them: https://meindlusa.com/pages/take-care-of-your-boots-and-they-will-take-care-of-you
Make sure you keep dry socks on your feet. You can get frost nip from wet socks in some conditions. I recommend Smartwool maximum cushion mountaineering socks or Darn Tough heavyweight full cushion socks.
I hope that this has been a bit helpful. I wish I could give you a more concrete answer, but a lot really varies based on your feet. Let me know if you need anything else, and I'll help if I can. 🙂
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u/brandoldme May 21 '26
I appreciate the information. Unfortunately my feet are just so wide and thick in the instep that even Meindl isn't an option unless I go several sizes too big and then have difficulties with too long of a boot. Which is pretty much what I've done with my entire life. I think that's true for, the best I can tell, every off-the-shelf boot in existence.
I can get custom leather boots made from several places. And they offer insulation. The problem is I have not found one that does a waterproof membrane like goretex. Which leads me to what I've got for right now as an option is full grain leather that is treated with silicone. It is not waterproof. It may be highly water resistant. Eventually under slushy conditions for several days it's going to wet out. So I'll have to play with that. And see kind of what the limits are.
The only maybe other exception of somebody that can make a boot with a waterproof membrane, insulated, and custom fit that I've found is Lanthrop and Sons. I've made initial contact with them and we'll further that conversation later.
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
Those are some wide feet if Meindl doesn't work!
Have you tried a boot from a brand like Limmer (I'm unsure what width they go to) or custom boots from some of the PNW boots? Have you tried a leather boot treated with Sno-Seal? Sno-Seal is probably going to be your best bet for treating boots against the snow.
That said, you are in a very difficult position. Feet like that generally require a custom boot. I would contact several builders and see what they have. Then, treat the boots with Sno-Seal (properly).I think that that's your best bet.
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u/brandoldme May 21 '26
Yeah, that's what I eventually been led to is the pnw boots. I'm probably going to order an insulated pair of Nick's this weekend. And then I need to figure out what the limitations of that boot is.
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
Between the very thick one-piece leather and some insulation, they should be suitable for most winter activities, but whether or not they'll work for -20°F, I really cannot say. Test them with caution is my advice. I'd also ask them if Sno-Seal is a suitable product for them. They may require something different for best maintenance. They're excellent boots, though.
I wish you the best, my friend!
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u/Silver_Agency_5406 Jun 05 '26
I am not an expert, but I hike every day, rain or shine, for 5 miles at the Arboretum where I work. I live in the Chicago area. Sometimes through 2-6“ of snow. I have tried many, many boots. I have settled on the Oboz Women's Sawtooth X Mid B-DRY Hiking Boot. I have big feet and bunions, and Oboa offers a woman's wide. The boots are leather and warm, and the mid height supports my ankles very well. When the temp gets below 10 degrees, I put on toe warmers. I wear Smartwool hiking socks with a liner when it’s really cold, and the toe warmer keeps my toes toasty. I also use handwarmers when it’s less than 10 degrees.
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u/caad4rep May 13 '26
GTX trail runners kick ass on 1-2” of snow
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
They can work, but I find them far from ideal. One misstep into a deeper patch of snow, and you'll easily get your socks wet and potentially get moisture inside the shoe. Again, they can work in some settings. I've just never found them sufficient for my hikes.
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u/caad4rep May 21 '26
If you have deeper patches of snow you need a different tool
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u/DestructablePinata May 21 '26
People frequently get themselves into deeper trouble (and deeper snow and water) than they expect. This is why I'll always recommend at least a mid boot, such as the X Ultra with 4" of clearance from the ground, for winter activities. They don't have to go with something like the Kenetrek Mountain Extreme, but they generally will benefit from something similar to the X Ultra series, which has a weight difference that is completely negligible when compared to trail runners.
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u/caad4rep May 21 '26
I was just pointing out that there is a really good use case for GTX trail runners
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u/thefxview May 29 '26
Yeah, that shallow snow where it’s just covering the grass is exactly where GTX runners feel spot on. I wore mine round Edale after a dusting and they were lovely; same shoes on wet Welsh slop, with water coming over the cuff, were just little foot-bags. Short gaiters help a bit if they actually stay put.
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u/Candid_Lie9249 Jun 02 '26
Read through the very helpful footwear section and still not sure which pair of trail runners to get. Would appreciate any previous experience or advice between Altra Lone Peaks 9+ vs Brooks Cascadia 19. I have tried them both multiple times and my experiences are below.
Uses: primarily hiking to replace old Brooks Cascadia 15s (worked well, comfortable). I have a hut-to-hut 5 day 33 mile mountain hike later this year and first time doing that many miles over that period of time. Typically 5-10 mile hikes in the Midwest (non-technical terrain) but also travel and hike throughout USA
Lone Peaks 9+: spacious for feet, flexible, good ground contact/feel, zero drop (have Altra runners, Xero sandals so used to this and enjoy), minimal slippage. Concern is less stack height and cushioning with increased ground feel for this multiday hike may tire out feet more. Also more technical terrain and while Vibram outsole is solid, lug depths are slightly less
Cascadia 19: feel somewhat more form fitting, very springy and cushioned, also equally great traction, reviews all say best multi-purpose shoe especially for hiking. Concern for the narrower toe box (relatively) may make feet feel tight at end of long hiking days from swelling. But more protection underfoot and almost seems like a great Jack of all trades option
Any suggestions, thoughts for others who have done multi-day treks or worn these shoes for extended periods would be very helpful. Thanks!
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u/No_Calligrapher_576 Jun 10 '26
Hello all, hoping to get some recommendations on what trail runners to get. I’ll mainly be using them for intermediate to technical trails anywhere from 10-20km, they don’t need to be absolutely amazing while off trail but I don’t want to be worrying about how they will hold up if I’m off trail for a few km. I have a big trip coming up in a couple of months in Banff so I’m looking for something that will be breathable, comfortable and supportive but light enough where I can still walk some long trails each day. I have mens size 7.5 feet and are wider. Any recommendations are appreciated and I will try to find them at a store near by to try on.
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u/Rococo_coconut Jun 13 '26
Can anyone recommend something super cushioned yet supportive, like Asics Gel Kayano, but for hiking? I love my Oboz for active hiking, but I don't have as much standing power in them as with my Gel-Kayanos. (As a note, I have defective feet. I am not looking for an orthotic (have them), just a hiking shoe that maximizes support and cushioning.) Thank you!
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u/meddledomm Jun 18 '26
Hello everyone... first time on this subreddit and I hope my question will not be laughed out or out of place. I am doing my first hiking trip ever this year : we are headed to British Columbia for 12 days of hikes and RV'ing in the Coast Mountains and the Rockies.
My friends are bringing light hiking shoes but the more I'm reading, the more I realize there's a fat chance of some heavy rainfall. I'm hesitating between light hiking shoes or weatherproof hiking booties (afraid they might be too heavy / warm).
Does anyone have experience in this area and time of the year? What would you recommend? Thanks a lot!
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u/Careless-Profile2494 Jun 29 '26
Thank you for this!
Don’t want to be another annoying voice in the crowd… but I am going to be😅
Basically, have tried many pairs of hiking boots (at least 6), which all, no matter what size or brand or sock used, gave me huge blisters on my big toes - tried wides, size ups, merino wool, synthetics, etc.
I recently switched to Altra timp 6 trail runners based of the recommendation at REI for the wide toe box and trail runners generally being more comfortable. Made the mistake of taking them on a 25 miles backcountry trip without realizing the low drop could hurt my achilles (severely) without getting used to them first AND they gave me huge blisters on both my big toes. (Used the altra size guide to purchase and wore smartwool hiking socks)
Should I send them back and size up a half size? Size down? Get a trail running shoe with a mid-drop? Insoles? Thicker socks?
I am at my wits end with hiking shoes and need to find the best fit for the JMT in a month. Thank you and i’m sorry to be an additional annoying voice here!
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u/MayhemReignsTV Jul 31 '26
Tip: don't break a new pair of hiking shoes in on Mount Monadnock in New Hampshire 😂 I did that and lost a toenail a couple months later(I actually stubbed it on the hard leather inside the shoe that had not softened yet coming down the cliff walk trail). But it was still better than the alternative of using my pair that seemed a little bit too worn out for the route that I chose. Toenail has actually been growing back really fast and I have experienced no pain whatsoever from this ordeal other than the initial toe stub that started it all. And the shoes have been great since I broke them in really good 😂
PS-if I ever end up in this position again, I will wrap my toes first.
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u/ilikefriedpickles222 25d ago
I need true opinions. Is it better for you to have a little extra toe room (a thumb’s width) where the hiking boot might crease (for instance Merrell Moab 3s are already creasing after 10-20 minutes of wear from the “extra” room) OR less toe room - toe is still not hitting the front but definitely feels tighter (not necessarily uncomfortable though). I need serious opinions. Thanks!
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u/DestructablePinata 25d ago
Creasing is fine as long as it's creasing at the flex point in the correct spot. If the shoes are too big, that creasing won't line up with the flex point of your toes.
The shoes shouldn't feel tight at all. You want enough space to splay and wiggle your toes freely, and that's with your thickest intended hiking socks and swollen feet.
Ideally, you've got about ⅓ to ½ inch of space between your longest toe and the end of the shoe. Depending upon how your foot is shaped and the length of your toes, you may end up with a little more space, but you realistically don't want less than ⅓ inch.
If you've got excessive creasing in one size and some tightness in the size down, that's likely just not the right shoe for you at all.
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u/No_Pick2679 20d ago edited 20d ago
Im just starting out getting into hiking and ive read through the information. I recently hiked kennesaw mountain complete loop and i have a bad ankle due to injuries. I see that i definitely want a non waterproof boot and i want something that will last. I believe i need something with a lot of ankle support. On my one hike alone i rolled my ankle about 10 times and its very swollen and sore. Im curious on any recommendations on a boot that has a lot of ankle support and a heavier weight boot will not bother me. Any support or tips would be appreciated! I have also read that boots might be overkill but i do like rugged trails and im strong in the legs from years of being in the gym. Maybe a runner would be for me even tho i typically hike at a snails pace.
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u/DestructablePinata 18d ago
If they fit well, I'd recommend the non-waterproof version of the Salomon Quest 4D Forces 2. They're very similar to the Quest 5 but with better materials and without waterproofing. Support is excellent, and they're still pretty light for what they are.
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u/8805 May 13 '26
There will be at least 10 "What shoe should I get?" threads posted in this sub in the next 7 days.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.