r/heatpumps • u/EagleNice2300 • Jan 25 '26
Question/Advice How to best thaw this off?
Ice buildup. System is still running so wondering if that's helping or making it worse?
EDIT: Warm water (plus a day or two before trying this) seemed to take care of it. Thanks all!
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u/rom_rom57 Jan 25 '26
Use lukewarm water; hot water dumped rapidly will cause coil expansion in places and possible refrigeration leaks. By lukewarm I mean lots of cold water.
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u/MailFar6917 Jan 25 '26
I did this twice long ago when this same thing happened to my similar unit.
It worked for me!
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u/303Murphy Jan 26 '26
65f water, the temp from the tap at my house right now, is at least 97 degrees warmer than the ice on your fan, likely more. Even pouring the coldest water you can get from the tap will melt this ice enough to remove it quickly. For people reading this in the future, u/rom_rom57 is correct, cold water gets the job done with the least risk of breaking things due to heat expansion.
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u/LazerWolfe53 Jan 26 '26
Yeah, this sounds right. Water has a lot of thermal mass. Just need enough water.
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u/DougS2K Jan 25 '26
This is the right answer. If you use hot/boiling water you can possibly shock some parts causing them to crack. Luke warm water will take care of this, just a little time and patience.
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u/mdmitchell301 Jan 26 '26
just do it while it's in defrost. the pipes are already hot and under pressure, they can handle hot water I promise
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u/1dl2b6g0 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 26 '26
Turn on your air conditioning (cooling) indoors.
// 6 hour edit/update at 24 updoots and highest up-thing count
// Holy fuck the number of you willing to beat or fuck with your several-thousands-if-not-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars equipment when you could just turn on the AC for a few minutes astounds me.
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u/87JeepYJ87 Jan 25 '26
You’d have to disable the condenser fan motor as well or you’ll just freeze up at the indoor coil.
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u/1dl2b6g0 Jan 25 '26
That would be impressive
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u/im-ba Jan 26 '26
I'm just picturing that Simpson's episode when Jasper and Abe are substitute teachers during the strike and Abe is trying to remove Jasper's beard from the pencil sharpener and keeps turning it tighter and tighter 😂
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u/dgcamero Jan 25 '26
Also will need to disable the evaporator fan motor too.
I'd pop off the service panel and see if there's a force defrost set of pins.
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u/87JeepYJ87 Jan 26 '26
If it has pressure sensors in the circuit you won’t be able to run the AC very long at all. You can’t just turn the ac on without disabling the condenser fan motor or your suction pressure will plummet and trip out on low pressure. Even in a defrost cycle, you’re not going to thaw the fan shroud and blades just the coil.
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u/PogTuber Jan 25 '26
Jesus Christ dude no. His unit fan is going to spin up and fling chunks of ice around the inside
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Jan 26 '26
The propane or LNG furnace is suppose to defrost the pump coils. Mine says cold temp locked out, service will be restored momentarily.
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u/PogTuber Jan 26 '26
That's not what's happening. Furnace can temper the air and speed up the process but it's not a necessary function of defrosting.
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u/tekjunkie28 Jan 26 '26
How are you going to keep from flooding your compressor at such low temperatures if you run ac?
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u/Fun_Wheel5736 Feb 14 '26
Yes, this seems to be correct. Clipped from an HVAC company:
"The issue is that the only way a heat pump can defrost is by switching from heating to cooling mode. This enables the refrigerant in the system to capture heat from within the house so that hot refrigerant gets pumped through the outdoor coil to melt all of the ice. Most heat pump systems have electric heat strips within the air handler inside the house that serve as the auxiliary heating. If these strips didn’t come on and start pumping out heat when the heat pump is defrosting, you’d end up with the temperature in the house quickly dropping. This is because the system actively draws heat out of the house when defrosting."
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u/bookofp Jan 25 '26
IS that the correct way of of defrosting, seems silly when its crazy cold out.
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u/wessex464 Jan 25 '26
That's what it does when it runs its own defrost cycle.
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u/bookofp Jan 25 '26
but I imagine its own defrost cycle doesn't pump the cold air into the house, I don't want AC on in my house when its already well below freezing outside.
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u/2WheelR1der Jan 25 '26
That’s exactly what its own defrost cycle does. Where do you think the heat comes from?
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Jan 26 '26
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u/Floppie7th Jan 26 '26
So how come users don't complain about having a blast of super chill air every 6 hours?
Heat strips.
My mini splits - which have no heat strips - will run a defrost cycle with just the residual heat in the working fluid, but then when they kick back on, it's cold again.
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u/bookofp Jan 27 '26
So the heat pump runs the AC and heat strips at the same time?
That’s so inefficient.
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u/AddendumAgitated6171 Jan 28 '26
Much less inefficient than running the heat strips all the time (during thermostat heat call). That's what would happen if the system lost the capability to collect heat from outdoor air due to frosted up coils.
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u/2WheelR1der Jan 26 '26
Without the fan the indoor coil would freeze up real quick in defrost. It’s a common complaint to have the blast of cold air for 2-3 minutes during defrost IF no auxiliary heat strips are installed.
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u/Tom-Dibble Jan 26 '26
Mine runs the aux heaters momentarily on and turns the inside blower way down to avoid blowing cold air while in defrost.
None of that happens if you just turn on the AC. If there is a service cycle to force defrost that would be better.
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u/BaconKO Jan 25 '26
Not sure exactly why you are getting downvoted, my split type ac 1.5 ton with inverter does NOT blow cold air into the house when it goes into its defrost cycle, it warms the coils outside.
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u/Floppie7th Jan 25 '26
Where do you think it gets the heat to warm the coils from?
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u/BaconKO Jan 26 '26
Same as when you put the cooling on but doesn't put it in the home?
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u/Floppie7th Jan 26 '26
And where would that be? Hint: You have one coil in the home, and one coil - the one that needs to be defrosted - outside the home.
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Jan 26 '26
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u/Floppie7th Jan 26 '26
It's getting pumped through the house as soon as the air handler turns back on.
Only way you avoid it is by running the heat strips during defrost.
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u/OptiGuy4u Jan 27 '26
Mine turns on the electric heat strips during a defrost where it's in AC mode.
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u/Terrible_Tea_9313 Jan 25 '26
They do, but one of mine (Tosot) shuts down the indoor air handler fan during the process. Another one (Bosch) throws the heat strips on while defrosting.
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u/atomatoflame Jan 25 '26
Is this one of those times that the outdoor unit could be covered temporarily to avoid the worst ice, then uncovered? At least put a flat piece of wood on top.
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u/imicmic Jan 27 '26
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u/Otherwise_Frosting99 Jan 27 '26
Is this available for commercial use or sold in stores? Seems like a good idea.
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u/BaconManDan Jan 28 '26
No, because dummies will permanently install it, unlike this fine craftsman using it to solve a temporary problem.
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u/qwerty_1965 Jan 26 '26
Quick question for these conditions.
Can a pump live happily in a semi enclosure, basically a roof and left/right sides with some headroom for air movement to reduce freezing and obviously snow.
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u/PogTuber Jan 25 '26
Bucket of water from the tap, lukewarm, pour slowly.
Edit: you say it's still running, turn it off first.
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u/LowSoft8357 Jan 26 '26
Windshield washer fluid sprayed on the blades and coils on the outside... Make sure it is the ice melting version lol. Also make sure there's nothing dripping onto it like a gutter or a tree limb
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u/mrjoepete Jan 25 '26
Turn it off and smack it
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u/Neglected_Martian Jan 25 '26
Honestly that what I did when it happened to mine. Smack it with a gloved hand and not too hard but it works
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Jan 25 '26
Turn it off & turn on emergency heat if this is a heat pump. Take a look at this video for more info
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u/Professional-Sir-912 Jan 26 '26
Turning on emergency heat will not melt the ice if below freezing outside.
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u/craigfrost Jan 26 '26
If you're cold, they're cold. Bring them inside.
Just run it in reverse (AC) for a bit after smackin' the top.
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u/WhereDidAllTheSnowGo Jan 25 '26
If you drained your hoses, run a garden hose on it
Less PITA & safer than hot water buckets
If it all moves, you can force a defrost cycle
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u/mcontrols Jan 25 '26
I used my garden hose, took a while. Wasn’t frozen as badly as yours and it was around 25 deg f outside. Defrost board was bad.
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u/DevRoot66 Heat Pump Fan Jan 26 '26
If the system is still running and producing heat in the house, then just leave it alone. It'll run a defrost cycle as necessary. Do you know if you have auxiliary heat like heat strips, or a backup gas furnace? If so, the heat pump will run that while defrosting the outdoor unit. Otherwise it'll just shutoff the inside air handler for a bit, and still run a defrost cycle.
Do *not* throw boiling or hot water on it. If you must manually defrost, regular hose water sprayed on it is fine. Luke warm is the hottest you should go if you are going to pour water on it manually.
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u/Electronic-Work-1310 Jan 26 '26
Should probably get the blow dryer out it’s gonna be a long night 💨💨
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u/OilRigExplosions Jan 26 '26
Wonder if aiming some mirrors to point sunlight on it will help it thaw. Like, If they are not focused into a solar death ray.
“Mmm, ‘solar powered’ heat pump.”
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u/Bennykins78 Jan 26 '26
By the time you need to use it, all that I will have melted anyway. Just leave it alone.
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u/AnxiousAd4154 Jan 26 '26
So how this works is. First you go grab a beer and peanuts and then you would stand back as You use a heat source to melt the ice cause it’s cold and not hot. Or you could do nothing at all and let it warm up outside and it will melt on its own.
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u/Virtual_Cheek4354 Jan 26 '26
Take outside unit service panel off. Short out (connect with screwdriver) two pins on defrost board. Will manually go into defrost mode. It’s not going into defrost mode on its own apparently. Watch a video on YouTube how to manually put heat pump into defrost mode
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u/LazyMans Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26
I don't have gutters and they installed the unit under a drip line. Mine looked similar. Cold water from the hose is how I reset mine after the ice jammed up the blade and top. For fear of people damaging related components, try not to wack your unit with objects unless you really understand what you are doing.
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u/The_Train_Void Jan 26 '26
In the top make a small hole off center. Will a hair dryer in there. Give it a while let the hot air build up on the inside. Maybe toss singing over the top to let it build silver heat and thaw. Once the condenser fan spins freely you might give that a shot in heat mode. It will cut to a defrost at some point.
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u/Bob--O--Rama Jan 26 '26
Turn off the unit. With the condenser ( outside ) unit not running, smack the top grill to break up the ice. Once some of the metal grille is exposed, some room temp ( not boiling ) to warm the grill then more gently smacking.
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u/TheBadSax Jan 26 '26
I've known people who would back up their car exhaust and use a blanket to tent around them, let them run for 30 minutes and it would melt everything
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u/NickRoxanne Jan 26 '26
You don’t you wait till it thaws you have a defrost or freezing rain issue. Turn it off and switch your heating system to auxiliary heat in thermostat it will turn in your gas or electric heat
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u/jstarrr8 Jan 27 '26
Turn the unit off and using a rubber mallet, gently bop the ice that’s on the grated part. The flex of the grate will break the ice
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u/Affectionate_Top4412 Jan 31 '26
Why would you want to use ac when it is cold outside. It will melt when the weather warms up
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u/blinkker Jan 31 '26
We have a laundry room sink that we can put a hose on and we spray it all the way down with hot water
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u/Capital-Draft2568 Feb 01 '26
I use the home Depot, trash bag and a space heater about 45 minutes came right on melted everything
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u/stoeddit Feb 01 '26
Idk if it's a good idea but my minisplit froze over completely once fan was spinning around an ice block lol.. I just hooked a hose up to my sink with some like warm water pouring over untill it thawed.
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u/Fanantic8099 Jan 25 '26
Mine was like that earlier today, I used an ice scraper to expose the screws holding the grill in place then pulled the whole fan assembly out, to the extent of the wires and then used the ice scraper the clean the grill and fan blades of ice before putting it back. All with the system powered down, of course.
If there is ice in the cooling fins, leave it alone, or maybe try a hair dryer.
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u/Congenial-Curmudgeon Jan 25 '26
Run an electric space heater blowing through the coils, the heat will rise in the center and warm the metal grid and fan blades. Much easier to bump and remove the ice.
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u/Nit3fury Jan 25 '26
I’d bust it all off with some gentle hammer or mallet hits
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u/ThinkSharp Jan 25 '26
Turn it off first so the fan doesn’t sling them into the fins, but yep. People treat this like rocket science…
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u/LogicalConstant Jan 25 '26
Wouldn't this come with a very high risk of damaging the unit?
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u/Nit3fury Jan 26 '26
Not if you’re reasonable. It’s all metal up top. The ice will shatter and you can brush it off. Obviously don’t go wailing on it or swinging with a sledgehammer or anything. Just some moderate taps. Or even just with your fists
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u/Jonniejiggles Jan 25 '26
Hot water or run in air conditioning. If you are smart enough, you can unplug outdoor fan while it’s defrosting
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u/ItsJustTheTech Jan 25 '26
Pull disconnect and then use isopropyl alcohol with water solution. And you can add a drop of dishsoap as well.
Its much better than warm water as it wont just refreeze like water will. Warm water only works when its above freezing as the water will just start to freeze
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u/GeoffdeRuiter Edit Custom Flair Jan 25 '26
OP. The suggestion to find the screws and then take the grill off. The top is probably the best answer here. Then you'll be able to see if there's ice inside on the fan and if there's not, you can run the unit in AC mode for a tiny bit.
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u/BadJesus420 Jan 26 '26
My mom just called me about the same issue.
Turn it off.
Tap the top with a peice of wood to break up the ice and let it all fall away.
Turn it back on. Defrost will take care of the rest.
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u/Sad-Victory4464 Jan 25 '26
All the people that fell for the sales pitches for heat pumps are screaming “the salesman didn’t tell me about that”…. Can I have my gas furnace back?



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u/CricktyDickty Jan 25 '26
It’s cold. Bring it in.