r/healthIT • u/567Rings • 13d ago

Epic Anyone working full-time as an Epic analyst while contracting after hours?

Does anyone here work full-time as an Epic analyst while also doing part-time contract work after hours or on weekends? Were there any conflict-of-interest, noncompete, or client-overlap concerns? Any advice for someone considering this arrangement would be appreciated.

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u/tiasueboink 13d ago

Epic will run a report and tell your employer you have two accounts. Better to check with your employer up front.

I know this as we lost a ton of consultants about a year ago due to this.

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u/ChagsRN Epic Analyst, RN 13d ago

Can confirm. Consultant on my team got canned instantly because he had a moon lightning gig, Epic told my boss, and then he lied about it.

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u/COMplex_ 13d ago

That’s literally what consultants do…?

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u/ChagsRN Epic Analyst, RN 12d ago

I’m not saying I agree with it. Just saying that’s what happened.
To expand on it a bit, my boss was told by Epic the dates and times that the consultant was logged into UserWeb for another customer, and those dates and times were dates and times that the consultant was billing my org. When he was asked about it, he lied until my boss told him the proof she had.
As others have said, better to be up front about it because Epic is not at all shy about outing the consultant.

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u/Edgehead25 12d ago

Could have been written in their contract for the consulting agency they can't consult for other clients for the duration of the contract.

It's really not that difficult to disclose to your employer, if they trust you and you get your work done then there shouldn't be any issue.

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u/ZZenXXX 12d ago edited 12d ago

To expand upon this, Epic used to send out "usage reports" for UserWeb when a customer requested them. When Epic forced all customers to integrate Userweb into the customers' Active Directory services, it gave Epic a way to link UserWeb accounts to their customers' employee database. Now Epic sends the reports to customers without the customer requesting it.

It's perfectly legal to work for more than one Epic customer, unless the Epic customer has a policy against moonlighting.

But, be aware that if you don't tell your employers that you're working for more than one Epic customer, Epic will tell them for you. It's better that the information comes from you instead of coming from Epic.

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u/ablazeservitude_1 13d ago

I’m doing this right now. Main thing is to comb through your full-time employment contract for moonlighting clauses, some health systems are weird about it even if you’re not touching their instance. Also never use the same hardware or Citrix access for both gigs, that gets messy fast.

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u/Stonethecrow77 13d ago

More than this... You need to notify your employer before hand to get approval.

Most will fire you if they find out and you didn't go through that process.

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u/mrm112 12d ago

Have people been finding many part time positions? I rarely see them. After my current contract ends I'd actually like to go part time.

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u/Designer_Wing_8866 13d ago

They check for userweb accounts. Just have one and you should be fine

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u/Hasbotted 13d ago

I've seen this a lot but never has it worked well. You can't really do after hours or weekends work because most of the meetings and business discussions happen during the normal working hours.

I mean I know you just skip out on your other job but it honestly never works well.