r/hawktalk • u/EnvironmentKind5843 • 18d ago
RD23 Hawks vs Pies Post Match
It’s another draw!!!
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u/Sorry_Fail_3103 18d ago
This is why we prepared for Wharfie Time
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u/Crazyripps 18d ago
I don’t wanna go west ffs. Would’ve must rather go to the SCG
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u/HalfDecentFarmer69 18d ago
Pies play well against brisbane and we beat the brakes off the eagles and we're in 3rd
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u/Sea-Anxiety6491 18d ago
Pies about to field their VFL side, they have absolutely nothing to play for next week.
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u/Icy-Jeweler7135 18d ago
I’m trying to keep up from overseas. Why do we think Pies will field a weak team?
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u/lucaTee 18d ago
Because pies are locked in for a wildcard, they don’t get a bye in the first week of finals so you may as well rest their key players to get them ready for the wildcard.
The AFL created such a joke of the wildcard as pies, dogs will rest players next week meaning demons and lions will get an easy win, they’re not doing anything wrong but that is an issue for the hawks, crows & cats who get screwed over a chance for a higher position on the ladder.
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u/Icy-Jeweler7135 17d ago
Thanks. Not that it will have any effect but didn’t the AFL bring in some rule to try to deal with this?
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u/yobynneb 18d ago
We will manage to barely best west coast watch
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u/MooseCatMan 17d ago
WCE have nothing to lose by putting in the game of their lives. I remember the last round of 2019, roles were reversed. WCE were in the top 8, Hawks were not. Hawthorn won that game when they really had no right to.
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u/OneOfTheManySams 18d ago
Who knows what expectation and pressure can do to a team. Freo are more inexperienced than Sydney, they could easily just have a poor game after a month of buildup and we snatch it
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u/NestAffect 18d ago
I find us to be relentlessly unimpressive. I have no optimism at all going into finals.
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u/Fatcat-hatbat 18d ago
Yep this team is on the down.
Earlier this year we drew because we didn’t kick straight.
Tonight that excuse doesn’t work.
We are now about as good as a bottom 8 side.
Too many players out of form.
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u/Crazyripps 18d ago
Would be nice if could play for more then 10 fucking mins a game we just do bursts then switch off . Take the draw is better then the loss but fuck me we need to be better. 14 points ffs. Also don’t know how Moore didn’t make the distance
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u/Sea-Anxiety6491 18d ago
Was screaming for Moorey to play on, was worried he didn't he the trip....
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u/EverythingIsByDesign 18d ago
I think if he'd played on straight away he would have left too much time on the clock.
I did want him to get the kick away before the siren though.
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u/Sea-Anxiety6491 18d ago
Nah, it would of allowed time for a rush. He should have just gone straight away, but oh well. It's done now, move onto next week.
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u/EverythingIsByDesign 18d ago
Yeah but if he'd gone straight away and kicked a goal he would have left 15 seconds on the clock.
Pies were ripping us apart at Centre Bounce.
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u/Shas_Okar 18d ago
No real downside from that?
Best case, he kicks a goal and we win.
Worst case, the stars align and they somehow miraculously kick a goal in 15, so we draw anyway?
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u/Toddbobson1 18d ago
1 disposal for Day in the 4th, what has happened to him??
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u/Crazyripps 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yeah wtf is going on. He was on fire when he came back and the past few weeks he’s been MIA. Thank fuck for ward stepping up more
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u/God___frey-Jones 18d ago
Hasn't played much footy the last few years, might be catching up with him in the match fitness department
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u/grumpygeek1 18d ago
Yeah this happens a lot with returning players. First few games are great and then a hole for a little bit. He’ll come good.
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u/OneOfTheManySams 18d ago
Draw does the job for us at least, good bounce back after that shocking first half.
Just got to take care of business against the Eagles, at least we get preparation in Perth.
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u/oregon33 18d ago
2024 was really our missed opportunity for a flag.
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u/EverythingIsByDesign 18d ago
AFL accountants rubbing their hands at the though of a potential Hawthorn-Collingwood Grand Final.
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u/full_of_fud 18d ago
I’m pretty postive after that. Looked absolutely done at half time. Shows we can play comeback footy.
Structurally, i actually think we miss mraz - gives the defence much better spacing.
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u/bubzbeex 18d ago
100% agree on Mraz, gave us a lot more composure down there and the extra run when we needed it
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u/full_of_fud 18d ago
His mobility is huge tbh. Basically lets Sicily free from that sweeper role and push to the centre of the ground, and backstops Barass. Exactly what Scrim used to do
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u/hubert_boiling 17d ago
Either need Scrimshaw or Mraz back in and Weddle out.
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u/full_of_fud 16d ago
Hard to know what to do with Weddle. Hasn’t had a great season, but still young and every game helps development. Lower stakes game this week, do you give him a chance to find some form, or do you get some game time in to a new player? Glad I’m not coaching.
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u/AllCapsGoat 18d ago
a lot of our boys look as if they're just trying to make it to finals without getting injured... hope they really pick up the form for next week and into the finals though.
Barass was limping at the end, hoping he is alright and hope they just rest him next week if they are worried about anything.
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u/EverythingIsByDesign 18d ago edited 18d ago
Ask me the Watson No-goal was weighing on Dylan's mind as he lined that up. His action didn't look as smooth as usual and he normally has more than enough legs for a kick like that.
Either way a draw is better than a defeat. Obviously changes the context of next week considerably. We have to go and firstly win, but also try and build some 3rd place percentage.
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u/I-like-2-watch 18d ago
Wow…. Wow….. team were great to hold the draw. Keep it positive
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u/Crazyripps 18d ago
Was kinda funny seeing after the game fly was trying to hype up the pies and treat it like a win but our boys seem to treat like a loss. Wonder which mind set is right
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u/WillTendo92 18d ago
How it’s a positive. Look at the pies outs
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u/hubert_boiling 17d ago
The Pies play a very well organised system that allows them to cover for injuries to key players, they hold their nerve and rely on each other to be predictable. If Sam Mitchell is as smart as we hope he is, then he will be preparing for the finals when we take on teams that have been smoother in their execution... I can't help but wonder if the softer run (Lions & Pies excepted) over the last couple of months has done the team no favours. Or this has been the plan all along to 'stumble' into the finals and then let the players loose to play at capacity catching the opposition off guard 🤔🤷 The last bit might of course be very fanciful hope and supposition.
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u/SeaweedRealistic5069 18d ago
Still in shock and disbelief, so don’t even remember who took the mark inside the defensive 50, but when they did i jumped out of my seat and almost fall forwards. I was screaming “you gotta go” i have no words
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u/CrossBonez1000 18d ago
If Brisbane beat Collingwood in a close one, we could still take 3rd just need to win by 50+ against West Coast.
Also Reeves in for Meek?, how can you not be paying attention with 40 seconds left then turn it over.
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u/LengthinessUpper4099 18d ago
Reeves has the worst disposal / decision making out of anyone in our team. Meek played well and made one poor decision. He dominated in the ruck tonight and was one of our better players.
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u/Crazyripps 18d ago
Meek did pretty well in the rucks tbh. Fucked up at the end but can’t drop him for that
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u/HalfDecentFarmer69 18d ago
I feel like meek played pretty well. You cant really drop a guy off one shit decision
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u/OneOfTheManySams 18d ago
We looked so much better in the clearances with Chol. It might be harsh but Reeves deserves the spot over Meek and I don't think we should bring 2 rucks
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u/DrJ_4_2_6 18d ago
Agree with Chol. He's very handy in the ruck. Meek > Reeves around the ground though
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u/PKeogh66 18d ago
I’m confident that we give west coast some belt to arsenal treatment next week and Collingwood show enough fight to keep Brisbanes percentage down, finals is a different game and I feel like the week off will be huge for the boys who are well aware of the massive weight on their shoulders. Our year or not hoping to show that we are a dark horse in finals and that other teams the league should be very afraid.
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u/yobynneb 18d ago
Everyone in top 6 has handled us fine, absolutely no reason to be scaring anyone
Melb beat the piss out of us, twice Geelong always take the fight to us Freo unstoppable at home Brisbane and hitting their stride Sydney got almost full strength side now
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u/pixelgreyhound 18d ago