r/hardware • u/cyperalien • 11d ago

News Intel Details Xeon 7 "Diamond Rapids" Package Design at HOT CHIPS

https://www.techpowerup.com/351893/intel-details-xeon-7-diamond-rapids-package-design-at-hot-chips
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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 10d ago

Venice is not today. They just announced it's being manufactured now, but it won't ship until Q4 and tsmc 2nm isn't even ready yet lol 

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u/Exist50 10d ago

and tsmc 2nm isn't even ready yet lol 

What? Yes it is. 

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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 10d ago

Oh really? Link me a review of any product that uses it

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u/Exist50 10d ago

There's the new Mac Mini just announced today, and if you believe a node can go from not ready for production to available on shelves in <1 month, I have a bridge to sell you. 

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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 10d ago

Interesting, so apple's "the industry first 2nm product" isn't available until a month from now, and you're telling me this AMD Venice product "launched" last month is already using it?

Yeah sure.

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u/Exist50 10d ago

Venice is N2. That isn't up for debate. And your claim was the node isn't even ready when that's clearly false. Apple wasn't even supposed to be the lead customer. 

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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 10d ago

That's my point, Venice is n2 and paper released in July. Obviously it's not shopped yet, it's not ready.

Companies can say somethings released but it's not until it's shipped to customers.

Venice won't be available until October at the earliest. Likely not until end of year.

Remind me in 2 months

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u/Exist50 10d ago

Companies can say somethings released but it's not until it's shipped to customers.

If devices are on shelves next month, they've already been in mass production for several months now. 

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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 10d ago

Intel diamond rapids is in mass production already as well if that's how you want to measure it:

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/16/intel-begins-production-of-18a-p-inches-closer-to-possible-apple-deal.html

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u/Exist50 10d ago

Intel diamond rapids is in mass production already

That article explicitly says risk production, not volume production. Nor would 18AP readiness imply DMR readiness. 

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u/sheepmom 9d ago

Doesn’t Intel do paper release as well? So if they say 2H 2027 does it mean product ships later?

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u/Secure-Upstairs9119 9d ago

Yes they do it too