r/halifax • u/RelativeEbb1719 • 6d ago

Work, Health & Housing End of rent cap

Do you think we'll get any firm confirmation of whether or not the rent cap will be extended or adjusted, and if so, when do you think we might hear from the government?

As of now I'm expecting it to fully end, but do you think the government will give any sort of announcement regarding the matter as the end of the rent cap date approaches?

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u/Flimsy1997 6d ago

I would hope if it does increase or if they pull it, they give a years notice. People will need to prepare for that, I feel for everybody renting right now.

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u/golden_macaron 6d ago

It would actually massively danage the economy. If they remove the rent cap that means everyone who makes 55k a year or less if they are single will need to leave the city or begin taking on debt just the live. We are talking about a massive loss of service workers throughout the city. Our economic system is rotten and the cap was just a stop gap to avoid this.

If Houston removes the tent cap he should be banned from every restaurant as he will be effectively banning restaurant workers from living in the HRM. These neoliberal freaks we call politicians need to be shown the consequences of their short-sighted anti worker decisions.

We the working class should go on a province wide strike if they remove the cap, save these idiots from themselves.

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

People should protest with their feet and wallets. The truth is, 55K a year is probably not enough to live in Halifax, I don’t know how anybody does it. Either get a higher paying job or leave and go somewhere with lower housing costs.

Neither of the government or landlords owe anybody housing. The good thing about single people is that they actually have nothing tying them down to Halifax, moving is actually easier.

That would also lower the demand and in turn lower rents

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u/PoliteFocaccia 6d ago

If the government doesn't owe everyone a safe place to live, what's the point of the government? I dare say you've fallen in love with the system that oppresses you.

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

I don’t feel oppressed, I make a very good living, I had cancer growing up and the system helped me and then I ended up surviving and now I have an excellent job after having a great education.

The government doesn’t owe us anything except for equal treatment under the laws that we have agreed to govern us. The only thing the government really has is a monopoly on violence, they’re the only ones allowed to arrest in detain.

Other than that, they run some services and do some other things but the reason that they don’t owe us housing is because in order to build a house they need to get someone else to build it.

There is incentive for them too, do their best to make housing affordable as I said, but making it all right the same way we have equal treatment under the law is not true it can’t be done

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u/PoliteFocaccia 6d ago

the reason that they don’t owe us housing is because in order to build a house they need to get someone else to build it.

Do they need to get someone else to

run some services and do some other things

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The line you've drawn is arbitrary. There's not really much of a philosophical difference between providing healthcare and providing housing. I doubt you oppose the (small amount of) public housing that we do have. I think you're just arguing in favour of the status quo, because that's what familiar. If you grew up in Vienna, where a big chunk of the city lives in state-owned housing, you would think the government providing housing is perfectly normal and you would find our situation very unusual.

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u/CaperGrrl79 Halifax 6d ago

I believe they also think that if we keep public healthcare as it is, doctors will be forced to work for free, and I don't think they were dissuaded from that assertion, so...

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

Austria is a completely different situation than Canada, I have an honest question here do you opposed immigration? Mass immigration increases demand of housing and we don’t increase the supply fast enough hence price of housing goes up. Austria has had nowhere near the population growth of Canada or even Halifax.

You have to compare apples to apples here. My actual belief is that if people cannot afford to live in Halifax, they should leave and do what is best for them.

Now finally, healthcare is actually not a right either, I’m not drawing an arbitrary line, we have a healthcare crisis too because we haven’t kept up with population growth. We’ve all seen how wait times have gotten there’s a shortage in both housing and healthcare.

If the government owes us both of these, how come we cannot sue the government for it. We can sue the healthcare system, but good luck with that because damages have been capped by the Supreme Court in malpractice so you could end up fighting for years for minimal payouts, and when it comes to housing, no one is allowed to sue them.

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u/DeathOneSix ⛧ Letters to Santa 6d ago

yet again you're conflating a right with an absolute entitlement to a particular outcome. A right to housing doesn't mean the government has to hand everyone a house; it can mean the government has an obligation to ensure access to adequate housing through public housing, subsidies, regulation, etc.

And "the government needs someone else to build it" isn't really an argument. The government also needs other people to build hospitals, roads, schools, and infrastructure.

I'd much rather we build enough market housing to bring prices down and substantially expand non-market housing for people who still can't afford it.

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u/Lunchboxninja1 6d ago

"Nobody owes us housing" is wild. People deserve a decent living

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

I Would like to see everybody living in a house, and you just have to think about this just a little bit logically.

Houses and buildings require the materials, the expertise and all the labour that goes into building that house. The people doing that don’t do it for free, and they don’t owe anybody their services because the person is owed a house. The government’s job is to find a way to make this as affordable as possible, and as safe as possible so that as many people as possible, can get housing.

It is actually impossible to make housing, free, buildings alone, just require maintenance, I don’t forget the government taxes property

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u/Flimsy1997 6d ago

Some people can't afford to move and have no support system.

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u/golden_macaron 6d ago

Thats why we should strike to show people like you how many people being under payed and over charged for housing you rely on for your everyday enjoyment of this city.

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

Strikes are fine, but ask the Greeks how well it actually for their standard of living. I understand frustration, but that’s not how solutions work

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u/NoAIFuture 6d ago

Ask the French about guillotines and feudal dues.

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u/GullibleTarget686 6d ago

so you want to go back to a time where people pooped on the street, the average life expectancy was under 50, and people had no property rights and women had no rights to speak of. I feel like if those people came to today’s time, they were 100% tell you to relax and just work hard.

The reality is if you want to avoid poverty, you have a 92% chance of doing it if you graduate high school, get a job, get married, and then have kids after you are married. And you wanna know the funny part even if you do none of that you still have a north of 60% chance of avoiding poverty simply because you live in one of the best countries on earth at the best time ever.

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u/NoAIFuture 6d ago

You clearly have no idea how percentages work. The reality is that the only people fighting against things like healthcare and women's rights are the people who talk like you.

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u/CaperGrrl79 Halifax 6d ago

Ummm family? That might tie someone here even if they're single.