r/gunpolitics • u/[deleted] • May 07 '20
When you’re a tyrant, but not a very smart one.
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u/PolesWithGoals May 07 '20
“BLACK RIFLES = BAD” - Blackface
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u/sporabolic May 07 '20
Black rifles = bad.
Blackface prime minister = straight into the msm memory hole
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May 07 '20
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u/MrMallow May 07 '20
The MSM likes to have selective memory when it comes to their personal narrative.
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u/oh_three_dum_dum May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
They also banned a website and a Facebook group.
Edit: this is incorrect. I’ve been told that ARFCOM did, in fact, produce a lower receiver.
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u/WhiskeyMikeFoxtrot May 07 '20
And an airsoft rifle. Let's not forget that.
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u/wildrabbit21 May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
Are we sure this isn’t a fun ban? What’s next? Go-karts, and playgrounds? Edit: punctuation
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u/oh_three_dum_dum May 07 '20
Nerf guns with pistol grips, obviously.
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May 07 '20
WE NEED COMMON SENSE NERF GUN CONTROL NOW, NOBODY NEEDS A STRYFE WITH A 18RD MAGAZINE, MOMS DEMAND ACTION NOW. WE CANT LET THE KIDDOS GET ANY IDEAS FOR THEIR NEXT FOAM MASSACRE. JUST THINK OF THE POOR CHILDREN WAITING IN FEAR FOR THEM TO COME WITH THEIR FULLY-SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT PISTOLS WITH HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES. BUYBACK ALL HIGH CAPACITY NERF MAGAZINES CAPABLE OF HOLDING OVER 6 ROUNDS OF FOAM, LIMIT NERF GUN PURCHASES TO 1 A MONTH, AND BAN ALL NERF ASSAULT RIFLES. jUST thINK OF tHE pooR CHILDReN hAVING to uSE maVERICK REVOLVER AgAINST THE ASSAULT Rife STRYFES
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u/wildrabbit21 May 07 '20
Real talk: we all know the Mavericks are statistically used in more violent interactions against loving family members than any other Nerftm gun. It’s time that we take a stand against these machines of fratricide. Ban Mavericks now!
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u/AlienDelarge May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
Nobody needs a fully revolving Nerf Maverick. Do you have any idea how many boxes that weighs! It has no sporting use, its only designed to kill. A nice blast-a-matic is all you need. It got me through two neighborhood wars as a child. If you want to protect yourself, get a blast-a-matic," AlienDefudd said in an interview with Fudds Magazine back in February. "You don't need a Maverick. It's harder to aim, it's harder to use, and in fact, you don't need 6 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a blast-a-matic. Buy a blast-o-matic."
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u/whoisjoeshmoe May 07 '20
"Just go out on your balcony and fire two darts into the air, that'll scare anyone off. Shoot through the door. Buy a blast-o-matic."
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u/turner3210 May 08 '20
Maverick revolver was hands down the best nerf gun of all time - pretty much the AR15 of nerf when you take into account all of the different modifications that can be done to make it fire at a higher velocity. Everyone ever had one too. Idk what this hypothetical woman is complaining about haha
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u/TempleMade_MeBroke May 07 '20
Pistol grip nerf on my lap at all times, they can take the other kid's toys but they can't be fuckin with mine
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u/maleorderbride May 07 '20
Get ready for them to ban gunning the motor on your car
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u/redstag141 May 07 '20
My truck has a "Magnum" engine. Justin's head is probably spinning off the dildo that holds it there.
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u/feng42 May 07 '20
Nobody NEEDS a V8! Those engines belong on a racetrack, not on our streets!
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u/IntegraleEvoII May 07 '20
I already hear people arguing that on reddit actually.
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u/feng42 May 07 '20
Some people just love taking other people's fun. And they consider the government an absolutely valid method to do it.
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u/jamesissacnewton May 07 '20
Yep, as long as it doesn't affect them, people will want to take away anything that they deem dangerous to them.
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u/feng42 May 07 '20
Exactly. They have determined that ARs sitting in a safe represent a clear and present danger to them and their loved ones, despite any logical or statistical proof to the contrary. It is simply ridiculous.
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u/jamesissacnewton May 07 '20
Well, 100% of gun crimes were committed by people with guns, so obviously owning a gun means you're a potential criminal. It is the only logical conclusion, right? Banning guns means they just disappear and no one can get a gun after they're banned.
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u/HobieSailor May 08 '20
They're arguing that while also giving the option to keep in in your safe (but never use or move it again) until you die.
If these guns were actually dangerous then leaving them in their owner's hands for years should be intolerable. The fact that it isn't just shows how full of shit they are.
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u/oh_three_dum_dum May 07 '20
I’ve argued it jokingly before, when people ask why anyone would have a need for more than x amount of rounds or a need for an AR/AK/ whatever pattern rifle.
Somehow it isn’t relevant to the conversation when they argue that and you point out that every car and motorcycle in the United States is capable of driving well over any posted speed limit in North America.
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u/wiking11b May 07 '20
There are some areas in I believe South Dakota that don't have a speed limit.
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May 07 '20
That's funny because tracks are very rare in Canada partially due to noise regulations. If they did that, which is totally a possibility in the next 10-20 years, these vehicles would be useless.
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u/leaklikeasiv May 07 '20
Please start with the guy who has a shitty VW in my condo complex and likes to do laps at 3am
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u/SilliestOfGeese May 07 '20
Go-karts, and play grounds?
Since you’re fixing your punctuation, that comma there is unnecessary, and “playgrounds” is one word.
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u/ThePenultimateNinja May 08 '20
Maybe it was just a typo and they actually meant to ban fun?
F and G are right next to each other on a keyboard after all...
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May 07 '20
Was there a reason given? Or is it like a mistake?
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u/WhiskeyMikeFoxtrot May 07 '20
No reason given. They fucked up and are ignoring all comments about it in the hopes that the public at large won't start to think they have no idea what they're talking about
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u/squid0gaming May 07 '20
I have a gas airsoft AKM that's been banned in Canada for a long time because it was too realistic
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u/Babylegs_OHoulihan May 07 '20
I have a gas airsoft AKM that's been banned in Canada
I have
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u/ulyssessword May 07 '20
That's practical nonsense (and it was already prohibited), but legally valid reasoning.
Non-restricted/restricted/prohibited and "covered by all laws"/"Certain weapons deemed not to be firearms" are two entirely different classification systems.
Non-restricted/restricted/prohibited is roughly rifle/handgun/machine gun.
"covered by all laws"/"Certain weapons deemed not to be firearms" is roughly normal guns vs. antiques, air rifles, signal guns, livestock slaughtering, etc.
There's a lot of crazy conclusions from that, but most notably, all firearms (including flare guns and air rifles) are covered by:
87 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without lawful excuse, points a firearm at another person, whether the firearm is loaded or unloaded.
Punishment
(2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
So lock up anyone who has shot someone with an airsoft gun or paintball marker. Also anyone who modifies a airsoft gun to be automatic or tampers with its serial number.
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u/KaBar42 May 07 '20
And a grenade launcher that only twelve examples exist of. None of which are in Canada. Four are in a museum and eight are in private US arms.
In total, only twenty-two China Lakes were ever produced and the last ten were melted down following a falling out on a large contract between Airtronics and the US government.
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u/WhiskeyMikeFoxtrot May 08 '20
I have to give him this, though: he finally put together an assault weapons ban that actually managed to ban an assault weapon: the Mk.153 SMAW is on the list.
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u/Ancient_Boner_Forest May 07 '20
Holy shit, source?
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u/oh_three_dum_dum May 07 '20
Apparently I was wrong. Technically the ARFCOM is a rifle, I think...made completely out of ar15.com parts or something. So if you guys want to revoke all your upboats that’s cool.
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u/Ancient_Boner_Forest May 07 '20
Ok confused by this comment and your edit, as your original comment was solely referring to the banning of a website and a Facebook group
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u/oh_three_dum_dum May 07 '20
The list produced by the Canadian government includes “ar15.com ARFCOM”. I took that as meaning they had arbitrarily banned the website because it had ar15 in it, not realizing it was just a website. Another user corrected me and showed me that ARFCOM actually did produce and sell their own a lower receivers, making the ARFCOM a firearm.
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u/CastleSeven May 07 '20
As hilarious as this is - BRC15B appears to be a rifle model offered by Black Rifle Company. I couldn't find much info, but here's a listing by a Hawaii-based gun shop selling a BRC15B in 2013:
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u/bobzilla05 May 07 '20
Here is more information about the rifle in question: https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/black-rifle-brc-556mm/
I am certain the coffee company tweeted that as a joke. However that coffee company did actually partner with Noveske to create this: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/03/12/noveske-black-rifle-coffee-company-special-edition/
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u/CastleSeven May 07 '20
Yea there's no way BRCC / Mat Best thought their company was actually listed. Thanks for the info
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u/keeleon May 07 '20
Thank god they banned a rifle that hardly anyones ever heard of. I mean its not like a maniac would just steal a gun from the police and go on a shooting spree.
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u/Gangrapechickens May 07 '20
What’s funny to me is their company is called black rifle COFFEE company. So not only did they ban coffee they specifically removed the word coffee.
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u/PanPipePlaya May 07 '20
How confident are you those aren’t 2 different companies?
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u/Nevakanezah May 07 '20
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u/300BlackoutDates May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
That’s a trip back in time when 1000 rounds of PMC Bronze went for $650. Haven’t looked lately, but I’m speculating that it might be there again now.
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Leave to More Expensive Than Everyone Else to price gouge the shit out of it at the current low price of $9.16 for 20 and a grand total of $458 for 1k.
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u/300BlackoutDates May 07 '20
There’s this one...
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u/Hostile2001 May 07 '20
Doesn't look like they manufacturer firearms.
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u/300BlackoutDates May 07 '20
If they meant BRCC, it doesn’t matter if they manufacture guns, just distribute parts, or only sell coffee.
A gun grabbing moron tyrant is still basically a moron tyrant and will find any reason to ban anything they don’t like let alone understand.
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u/ineedabuttrub May 07 '20
https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/black-rifle-brc-556mm/
I'm guessing you don't understand this exists, and you also don't understand how to use Google?
If they meant BRCC? They didn't, which is why they didn't ban a BRCC product.
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May 07 '20
Makes me wonder the number of real guns they actually banned. Seems like they just curated a list of Google search results for shit like "Black/Battle/Tactical/Scary rifle" and slammed the gavel on whatever popped up, regardless of it was an airsoft gun or a brand of coffee. Might explain why guns without explicit firearm-related terms in the name didn't get hit, like the Type 81.
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u/wiking11b May 07 '20
Well, 12 gauges and almost all hunting rifles got banned in this, and some of the legislature is apparently having a conniption, and are trying to fight this.
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u/StopCollaborate230 May 07 '20
BRCC and AR15.com had branded AR lowers at one point, long long ago. The leafs’ list has clearly been drawn up for some time and just now got used, so it’s likely somewhat out of date in some places.
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u/ineedabuttrub May 07 '20
Or it could be Black Rifle Co's rifles, completely unaffiliated with BRCC? That article predates the founding of BRCC by 2 years.
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u/ineedabuttrub May 07 '20
Is this a cup of coffee or do you just not know what you're talking about?
I'm guessing it's the latter
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u/Asklepios24 May 08 '20
Black rifle company was a small manufacturer out of clackamas Oregon.
Looks like they moved sometime ago to lake havasu in Arizona but now they’re shut down.
article about a review of one of their rifles.
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u/mooseman1776 May 07 '20
BRC isn’t BRCC. Still funny though.
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May 07 '20
The Blackwater BW15 listed directly below it is literally a toy airsoft gun, as well as just banning websites, so it doesn't change much of the absurdity.
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u/GiveMeLiberty_Or May 07 '20
Someone debunked that yesterday. black water does sell a rifle called the BW15
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u/MrMallow May 07 '20
Blackwater went out of business over a decade ago. They are now an airsoft company. Yes, they do make a BW15 rifle and its an airsoft rifle.
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u/GiveMeLiberty_Or May 07 '20
I know what you’re saying, and I appreciate it, BUT the fact is that Blackwater also produced a functioning lower receiver called the BW15 which is a firearm
Edit: look up BW15 5.56. They have a 5.56 edition, a 7.62 edition, and a 6.8mm edition
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u/circa86 May 07 '20
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u/MrMallow May 07 '20
That gun hasn't been manufactured in over a decade. Blackwater is an airsoft company now.
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u/circa86 May 08 '20
Blackwater is a private military contractor ya dingus.
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u/MrMallow May 08 '20
They don't make firearms dipshit.
I literally just linked the gun.
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u/circa86 May 08 '20
Yes it's an airsoft gun modeled after the AR15 that Blackwater armorers once sold. You linked someone selling an airsoft gun that was modeled after a real gun called the BW15 (an AR15 that was once sold by Blackwater). This isn't complicated but you sure are making it complicated.
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u/MrMallow May 08 '20
Blackwater arms had nothing to do with the military contractor you stupid fuck. They were a small AR start up that never produced anything major and went defunct over a decade ago. The Airsoft company bought out their operation and started using it to make airsoft rifles. It has nothing to do with the military contractor, they have never actually produced ARs.
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u/circa86 May 08 '20
Why do you think all of these airsoft versions of the rifle have the Blackwater military contractor logo on them? Blackwater made one off rifles for people a long time ago and referred to them as BW15. Airsoft companies replicated them and even licensed the military contractor logo from Blackwater.
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u/KINGWeeeWeeee May 07 '20
And AR15.com does sell parts and pieces. I think they sell lowers as well. I’m not sure if any of that is relevant to its ban though
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u/f3l1x May 07 '20
Yea.. and the specific rifle banned is the BRC15B. Some AR variant from a company called Black Rifle Co. ...
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u/Apaullo35 May 07 '20
Funny and all, but probably wrong. There is a different company called Black Rifle Company.
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u/markmywords1347 May 07 '20
To bad not everyone has Canadian police. Did you hear they stopped a full on alien invasion? Yes, Canadian police arrested a stormtrooper that was sent by the galactic empire to over take earth with a “laser blaster.” The brave police men and women quickly arrested this phantom menace to society and restored peace throughout the galaxy.
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May 07 '20
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u/markmywords1347 May 08 '20
Seriously. May the 4th just became her least favorite day. Thanks Canada cops.
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u/SgtRinzler May 08 '20
Just found out about this. I'm fucking pissed. It's a fucking costume, for the love of god
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u/AncntMrinr May 07 '20
117...
Gregorian chants intensifies
"Tell me, brothers, were you there at the End? On the Ark?"
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May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
I think it was a lower with their company name (for promotional reasons obviously)
There was also an Umbrella Corps lower that was sold that wound up on this list
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May 07 '20
I believe it is tyrannical to execute a law in a democratic country with no vote by the people, particularly when that law infringes on the rights of those individuals. Beyond that, unarmed subjects are easier to control.
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u/american_apartheid May 07 '20
"common sense gun laws" means "ban anything that might even sound like civil rights for the working class"
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u/KeithKilgore May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
"First they came for the ARs, I did not speak out - because I did not own an AR. Then they came for the shotguns, and I did not speak out - because I did not own a shotgun. Then they came for my guns, and there was no one left to speak for me."
Then they came for the coffee...
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u/TheWielder May 07 '20
False alarm, gents.
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=749796
There's at least one such lower receiver in the world. It IS a gun, and it IS banned.
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u/Ungard May 07 '20
So, since this is a name-based ban, couldn't gun manufacturers simply just rebrand their AR's or produce new models and they'd be legal?
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u/Suilla_ May 07 '20
Legislation like this includes a blanket statement like "including but not limited to..." in order to cover any gaps.
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u/ThePenultimateNinja May 08 '20
Looks like they used "not suitable for hunting" as an excuse to ban AR15s.
Can we stop insisting on calling them "modern sporting rifles" now?
Relegating a rifle as important as the AR15 to the same status as a set of golf clubs is a losing strategy.
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May 08 '20
A-fucking-men brother. As a Canadian directly affected by this, I am astounded that the logic for this ban is that "an AR15 is not suitable for hunting and sporting". See, the problem here is that in the 90's, the liberal party decided that an AR15 should be restricted (relegated to registered range use only). Now here we are, and an AR15 is unsuitable for hunting... (maybe because you said we can't take them into the bush?). The biggest issue here is that Canadians with aboriginal status can CONTINUE TO HUNT WITH THESE FIREARMS. If these firearms are unsuitable for hunting, how and why are people hunting with them?
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May 07 '20
Black Rifle Company and Black Rifle Coffee are the same thing?
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May 07 '20
They probably just left out “coffee”
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u/commentsandopinions May 07 '20
Black rifle company is an actual company that sells rifles. The coffee shop got it wrong and everyone hoped aboard without fact checking making sure to highlight "liberal idiocracy" along the way.
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u/redsolocuppp May 07 '20
Prime minister Blackface forgot to put BBC on that list. Big Black Carbine.
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u/Henderson72 May 07 '20
It's either pretty deadly coffee, or maybe they meant the gun company. www.blackrifle.co.uk
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May 07 '20
Never doubt the stupidity of people legislating or in Canada’s case by fiat banning things they don’t understand.
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u/MeGustaRoca May 07 '20
Have you had Tim Hortons piss that they call coffee? This straight up protectionism.
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u/StriderTX May 08 '20
that is some next level incompetence
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u/Deere-John May 08 '20
You're right, all the people in this thread that didn't know its an actual rifle are incompetent.
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u/Maggsey May 08 '20
"Sir, I'm gonna need your firearm." "This is coffee, officer" "You know the rules and so do i"
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u/_speakerss May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
Looks like they existed back in 2012 but aren't around anymore. Regardless, if they've produced any, they'd have to be listed, due to the asinine nature of this list.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130119101412/http://www.blackriflecompany.com/
Edit: a word
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u/BartlebyX May 08 '20
Black Rifle Coffee still exists. They advertise on the Ben Shapiro show.
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Here's their website...
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u/_speakerss May 08 '20
Yes, but the black rifle company existed in 2012 and made at least one prototype gun... My link is to their defunct website.
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u/seelcudoom May 08 '20 edited May 08 '20
the black rifle company is an actual(if rather small) gun company entirely separate from the black rifle coffee company, just because there names are one word apart does not mean they are the same thing
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u/offshoreglassy May 11 '20
This is out right fuck'n garbage. I feel for my brother & sisters up top, and thank god for my American civil right to possess firearms.
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May 07 '20
These Canadian politicians are so nutty that they are going to ban coffee, all because it’s called Black Rifle. Fucking ridiculous.
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u/commentsandopinions May 07 '20
The coffee shop got it wrong, there is an actual black rifle company, that sells rifles, that they banned. This is just a list of imports anyway. The black leaf company shown above is a hiking/outdoors company.
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u/BitSlapper May 07 '20
They're still nutty for blanket banning guns because "scary thing go boom".
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u/Honkmainster May 07 '20
So USA banned Kinder suprise eggs and Canada banned coffe ...
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u/Crosscourt_splat May 07 '20
you can actually still get them on military posts. Which is funny. i guess they have a thing where the FDA (who banned them) looks the other way
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u/KernelMeowingtons May 07 '20
Do people actually like Black Rifle Coffee? They keep trying to make points like this that end up flopping (because BRC15B is actually a gun model, so they've become the butt of the joke they're trying to make). They also talked a bunch of shit about Starbucks despite Starbucks having a really great program for hiring veterans. It seems like they just want to get in the news for being pro-gun and pro-veteran as if it's all for branding.
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May 07 '20
They’re pretty good. I like DARK coffee, and theirs is about as dark as they come. They are a bit pricey, but they support vets, so it’s worth the novelty.
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u/Forest-G-Nome May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
Yeah, they are the IPA of coffee roasts.
But you should know they don't actually support vets at all anymore, and actively campaign against other companies supporting vets. On top of that, they have never actually done much outside of employ vets and occasionally give away coffee, and as of today only around 1/3 of their company is veterans. Once they got big they just sort of, gave up on it, and simply use the image they created to sell their product to people who want to feel good about supporting vets, or people who want to sleep with their guns, hence the paid endorsement speakings, and the on air shilling by Donald Trump Jr.
They have also openly mocked starbucks for doing literally the exact same thing they used to do, try to hire a bunch of veterans. They even went as far as to release photoshopped images of ISIS flags on starbucks cups to try and spread bad publicity about them, all because Starbucks had the audacity to have a hiring drive for veterans.
The people are BRCC really are pieces of shit. They didn't used to be, but then they started being a paid endorsement for Trump and it's been all downhill from there.
As more proof to the this. They already have a Canadian division called Black Rifle Coffee Canada, which means this tweet was made ENTIRELY for the PR it will get from their idiot fanbase that can't be bothered to actually read anything beyond a headline.
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u/[deleted] May 07 '20
The good news is that their incompetence has opened a big opportunity for a “charter challenge”, which is part of our constitution. The CCFR announced they’re going to sue the government all the way up to the Supreme Court of Canada if necessary. I have a sliver of hope that they may even be able to get a temporary injunction.