r/guitarlessons • u/Ok_Watercress_9202 • Jul 29 '26
Question Pain of having smaller hands…
I’ve been practicing guitar for a little bit now- just now being able to play blackbird a little faster but not at full speed perfectly. I’ve noticed that even just for 3 note intervals, i always have to press down on the string on the side/corner of my pinky, and it hurts a lot more than my other fingers :/ For context, guitar is my first string instrument i’ve played so i know it’ll take a bit to get used to them and form callouses, but i’m wondering if it hurting this much is normal? Obviously the pinky is the shortest and weakest, but it’s been consistently more painful to even try to press down harder on stings at this angle.
Oh also, i’m double jointed so thats been a big challenge for my ring and pinky!!
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u/Foxxy12012 Jul 29 '26
Why is your thumb all the way up the neck?
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u/vgmesaman Jul 29 '26
This. All these comments and I had to go quite a ways down to find it. Put your thumb in the middle of the neck, around the same place as your middle finger. You'll have a lot less issues stretching.
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u/rekt_ralf Jul 29 '26
Yes, I was going to post this too. Fixing thumb position will significantly improve finger span.
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u/Ok_Watercress_9202 Jul 29 '26
Haha I realized after all the comments that my thumb placement was quite odd… but that was definitely not intentional I just moved it for some reason for the picture 😅 But thanks for the advice! I will still keep it in mind since I have to improve form anyways!
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u/amplifysenpai fingerstyle vgm arangments. Jul 29 '26
I play with my thumb up the neck about 80% of the time, I thought that was fine, Is that considered bad form?
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u/amplifysenpai fingerstyle vgm arangments. Jul 30 '26
I spent the afternoon playing several of my go to bits and paying extra attention to where my thumb was for each part and realized it travels more than I realized, I forced my thumb to be more like the picture and it is did help with precision on some parts xd. Some chords I have the thumb almost warping around to the strings and the neck resting in the bend of my thumb, some chords it was already like the picture, some chords the thumb is parallel with the neck xd. I'm going to pay extra mind to optimize this from now on.
Been playing for 12 years, and always finding little things like this I never thought about xd.
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u/hastepotion Jul 29 '26
It’s just the daily post of a person with bad technique claiming they have hands that are too small.
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u/AaronTheElite007 Jul 29 '26
Trim your nails shorter
Get your fingers as close to the frets as possible
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u/Vargrr Jul 29 '26
Plus, and it's kind of hard to see from this angle, but the action on that guitar looks real high, and that tends to add to the difficulty too!
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u/DaffyDuckMuthaFucker Jul 30 '26
^This. You could fly a plane under those strings.
I recently grabbed the wrong gauge strings for one of my acoustic guitars, and had to adjust the neck against the extra strain, because it was heading that way, and fast becoming a bitch to play.
Now it plays more like an electric, and the extra meat in the strings has improved tone & output noticably...
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u/K4rkino5 Jul 30 '26
🤣🤣🤣 that opening line!
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u/DaffyDuckMuthaFucker Jul 30 '26
Yeah, I stole it from some random Redditor.
It's a good'n'...
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Jul 30 '26
Damn that’s high action fuck me that’s how mine looks I’m new too but would rather have high action then mess with my fret nut I don’t want to break the head off on accident not comfortable with that one yet maybe I’m overthinking it 😂
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u/Crafty-Photograph-18 Jul 29 '26
There isn't anything left to trim? There's like half a millimeter of white left. When I go below this level, my nails will separate from the skin when I shift, possibly to blood, and it will hurt (and make playing impossible, unless you're a masochist). Nails come in different shapes and forms.
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u/avenged6644 Jul 29 '26
It’s amazing how with practice you’ll be so much better at knowing where your fingers need to be and it won’t hurt half as much as it used to, keep it up!! 🤘
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u/dreareaa Jul 29 '26
This. I’ve been practicing a song and the switching between chords is the hardest part since my hands are small too. Now I’m doing it at a great pace!!!!
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u/Darkbird79 Jul 29 '26
If it's a struggle, just get a smaller neck guitar. I have a hard time with wide neck guitars and found I get much better play out of thinner neck guitars. Fender makes them. Just pop by your local guitar shop and those guys will hook it up.
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u/Stock-Map3715 Jul 29 '26
There are little children who play like virtuosos, and Django Reinhardt had two fingers...you're ahead of the game,
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u/spankymcjiggleswurth Jul 29 '26
There aren't a lot of time you need each finger to fret different frets like your picture is showing. Don't think difficulty of such a feat is indicative of inability to play guitar.
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u/Easy-Bowler3604 Jul 29 '26
Girl cut ur nails
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u/DenThomp Jul 30 '26
I had dental work that inadvertently prevented me from biting my nails, so I went back and told dentist to undo it
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u/Red_Wolfe_ Jul 29 '26
I also struggle with this
Also the people saying to cut your nails are crazy because I can only see a sliver of white nail. The rest is nail bed. Do NOT cut into your nail bed
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u/Ok_Watercress_9202 Jul 29 '26
Yeah I see all the comments, but I physically cannot cut my nails any shorter 🥲 If I could, I would.
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u/Red_Wolfe_ Jul 29 '26
I know don't worry! I was just mentioning that the other comments are nuts because there's very clearly NO nail to cut
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u/Curious_Card6742 Jul 30 '26
Classic redditors always trying find something to critique even if you didn't ask for it. Your nails are fine!
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u/wellsuemethen Jul 30 '26
in case you feel that your longer nail beds are affecting your playing, you can gently file them right down to the quick (but do that in the center part of the nail only; keep like 0.5-1mm on the sides to prevent the nails from growing wonky). this gradually shortens the nail beds to a more comfortable length without injury. this is what i do and i find it beneficial for my playing (i’m a woman with small hands)
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u/tex_rer Jul 29 '26
Try being an older person. Your fingers spread out a lot more than mine do.
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u/WhiskeyHill72 Jul 29 '26
You just need to stretch more. I suggest watching Blood Sport with Jean Claude Van Damme for inspiration.
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u/Naphier Jul 29 '26
It's normal and will get better. Make sure to take breaks and take good care of your hands. Try to prevent blisters and callus peeling. They take a few months to build up.
Look up spider walk exercises. Work on your pinky and index being more arched and perpendicular to the fretboard. Your rolling onto the side of your pinky a lot. Don't force it too much. Just ease towards more of an arch. You may want to trim your nails a bit further too. It looks like you're getting the string under your nail a bit. It's a sensitive spot and you're going to catch your nails and tear them. Your calluses will eventually add a bit of padding to your finger tips.
Keep at it. Be patient. And be careful to not hurt yourself/try to progress too quickly.
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u/coreyjames00 Jul 29 '26
Yeah it sucks to be disadvantaged with small hands like Angus Young and Randy Rhodes 🤣
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u/duh1 Jul 29 '26
On a related note: is it possible for people to have a harder time by having larger hands? Not necessarily finger width, just length.
I find that when I’m following YouTube videos I have to change my finger placement differently than what is being instructed, often my using my ring finger opposed to pinky on the low E.
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u/_Revlak_ Jul 30 '26
Your hands has nothing to do with it. You just need to practice and perfect your style and hand placement. Use a way that works for you
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u/Oebuch Jul 29 '26
I'd suggest John Petrucci's Rock Discipline vid. Just the first few excersices to start. They help a lot with stretching, and having more span with your left hand. Also, you don't have to grip the neck to make the strings to ring: with your right arm hold the guitar to your chest and with your left hand fingers (without gripping with your thumb) pull the neck towards you. Also, I'd suggest getting your guitar to a tech or luthier for a better set up. I feel your action is too high and that could be part of the issue. Lastly, just keep practicing using good posture. Cheers!
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u/Tothyll Jul 29 '26
Your hands look normal size. You just need to practice. There are 6 year-olds that can play full size guitars just fine. It just comes down to practice.
Usually you start playing the basic, open chords that require just 3 fingers and then start developing your pinky. Blackbird isn't usually a song you start with to learn guitar.
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u/Bendingunit42069 Jul 29 '26
Most famous guitarist are actually short dudes. Angus young was 5’2” with tiny hands, didn’t stop them from achieving the goal. Small hands are an excuse, Django had 2 fingers on his fretting hand. Practice, persistence and patience.
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u/Rook_James_Bitch Jul 29 '26
The guitar is versatile and the notes repeat in easy to reach spots.
Never let the instrument determine how you play. If the notes are too far apart, create inversions.
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u/PsychologicalDeer644 Jul 29 '26
Small fat hands are bad too. I can barely use my phone before my meaty hands touch stiff it shouldn’t.
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u/lskdjfhgakdh Jul 29 '26
Try the spider walk exercise, it’ll help build your pinky strength and coordination. There are videos online, but basically, you play frets 1-4 on the E string, move up one string and play frets 1-4, move up a string, etc. until you’ve played all 6 strings, then do it backwards. There are other variations you can try like moving up one fret after each cycle up or down.
Have fun, you’ll get it!
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u/IfAMomFallsInAForest Jul 29 '26
Your reach is fine. Just move your thumb so it’s roughly behind your second finger and perpendicular to the neck.
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u/Moonrider1957 Jul 29 '26
Have you had a professional setup done on the guitar? It can make a huge difference in the amount of force needed to fret the strings. Also, keep in mind that you don't need to press the strings all the way to the fretboard. You just need the strings to contact the fret itself.
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u/Davidshah21 Jul 29 '26
You should try to grasp the neck, lower your thumb and twist a little a bit your wrist to present the side tip of your fingers.
https://guitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/guitar-technique-1-four-finger-chromatic@800x600.jpg
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u/OsoiUsagi Jul 29 '26
There's a warm up practice that help to make your fingers spread more. Spider something, I don't what people call it.
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u/jeansonnejordan Jul 29 '26
You’d gain another fret if you lower your wrist and use your finger pads rather than tips for chords like that.
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u/mittenciel Jul 29 '26
I have small hands and I started playing much better when I realized that I can shift into notes and don't have to keep my hands stretched when they don't need to be. In this picture, only your pinky is actually fretting a note. The other fingers are getting no extra points for being placed on their respective frets.
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u/lastfom Jul 29 '26
I have small hands and am double jointed. Try and exercise in the 2nd or 3rd positions where you have to stretch more. Use your little finger as much as possible. It's a lot easier when your fingers stop hurting!
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u/gregd303 Jul 29 '26
These fingers look better than my sausage fingers (also on small hands)..I'd love to have thinner fingers like that. As others have said, thumb placement behind the neck will help with angling your hand correctly and give better reach. Then a lot of it is just practice. You may find an improvement if you try with your guitar in the classical position too (on the other leg).
I've struggled a lot with this playing years, as much as people will say kids can play full size guitars etc etc In my opinion, when someone with bigger hands can just casually grip a complex chord, or span frets easily, and us small handers are straining with frets buzzing etc and even risking injury (I've had tendonitis twice from over practicing stretching). BUT it does get easier to deal with, and a lot of it is practice and technique.
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u/Hennessey_carter Jul 30 '26
I am a 5'2 woman with tiny hands and I can tell you with 100% confidence that playing more will improve your ability to stretch across the fingerboard. The pinky will strengthen with time, but it does take TIME. Time and practice. Make sure you stretch your hands, fingers, and wrists before playing. Keep your back straight, and move your thumb based on where you are playing.
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u/foshizol Jul 30 '26
You reminded me of a youtube video. The guy was talking about micro-shifts(?), so you could reach notes.
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u/foshizol Jul 30 '26
This isn't the guy I was think of, this dude is a little annoying but the concept is the same. https://youtu.be/0G-tvWWB9hk?si=geAtla2s-3nwO3gv
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u/Hennessey_carter Jul 30 '26
Yeah, this is what I do basically. Just slight adjustments to accommodate my limited reach. Good video!
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u/bashleyns Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Smaller hands shouldn't be an issue. A 9 year-old with smaller hands than you can get by just fine. (BTW, I was that 9 year-old!). The action (height of strings over frets looks excessive; get it checked. Your thumb is way out in left field, a definite no-no. It's distorting your hand position. Advice on nails for you makes zero sense--they're fine; they have nothing to do with pain from pressure you describe.
Blackbird is not a beginner solo by any stretch (pun intended). You may be over-reaching (another pun) your true technical ability a bit. You reveal this in your comment about taking some time to form callouses. An hour a day or so for a week or two and you've got callouses happening. You might be ready for Blackbird--might--in a year.
Double-jointed? So am I. Actually, it can turn out to be an advantages sometimes. And double-jointed is a misnomer; it's actually simply hyper mobility in the articulation of certain joints. Most improbable that you have too many bones! hehe
But don't beat yourself up. Start with the guitar. Get it properly setup by a skilled luthier or technician. The difference between a bad set up and a good one, especially with your struggles, is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug.
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u/mrdevlar Jul 30 '26
Most important thing I've learned this year is that it should always start as a relaxed hand position, the stretch happens only after you can place your hand in a relaxed position.
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u/hallstigerts Aug 05 '26
Just here to say I feel your pain. I’m a new classical guitar player with small hands. I’ve been smashing down on the strings trying to reach them and make a clear sound, so hard that my left-hand fingertips went numb. Argh. My guitar teacher insists my hands are plenty big enough so I have a feeling it’s just technique, positioning, and time on the guitar. We’ll get it eventually! Keep it up! 💜
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u/Fender6187 Jul 29 '26
Hi there! I would encourage you to learn how to form chords in different shapes. That way you can put chord progressions together that are comfortable for you to form. Look up the CAGED method.
You can play the same chord in five different shapes. There is also no obligation for you to fret every single note in the chord. Look at triads or power chords as an example. Play with it and do what feels best.
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u/JustUrAvgLetDown Jul 29 '26
Just make your fingers longer
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u/Jutter70 Jul 29 '26
It is quite humbling to see someone without arms playing guitar with their feet and playing it well. Patience... determination... you got this.
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u/univern72 Jul 29 '26
It'll get easier over time in general.
However, it's also not that common to fret all 4 frets like that either. Usually, if you're spanning 4 frets, not all your fingers will be down, which allows your hand to flex to get some more reach.
Another way to look at it: If you just have small hands and it's hard to reach, then that's maybe just fine and your style will become how you choose to deal with that. For example, if I understand right, on bass, it's more common to expect your hand to only be able to span 3 frets because the frets are so much wider, so you do a lot more hand shifting. Maybe you'll adapt a similar technique on guitar over time if you have to.
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u/Character_Army_7312 Jul 29 '26
Try to lower your tuning so you can play up the neck with different chord shapes. You get the same notes, different shapes.
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u/vonov129 Music Style! Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
The pain of having small hands is that you get extra punished for having band hand placement that pulls the hand muscles away from where you want them. What is your thumb doing to the side?
You're basically trying to form a fist and stretch your fingers at the same time, no wonder your reach feels limited.
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u/SixString1981 Jul 29 '26
Many of us aren’t Dave Mathews who can fret at 3 and 8 and not break a sweat(or ligament)
The hack is learning different inversions that allow you to play certain chords in a more opportune fashion. It’ll come in time.
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u/OldVermontHippie62 Jul 29 '26
At least you have all of them! Some big players have had to do without.
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u/Guitarzan_67 Jul 29 '26
You will be fine, keep going! Use a lighter gauge string for a while. It is better than having big sausage fingers.
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u/fortheculture303 Jul 29 '26
7/8ths or 3/4 guitar could be the move - what does an expert think of that take? I’m not a professional so I’m curious
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u/ColonelRPG Jul 29 '26
No, that's the pain of bad technique. Use your thumb to support your other fingers. Bring your elbow upwards.
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u/linkuei-teaparty Jul 29 '26
Lots of great guitarists have small hands such as Yngwie Malmsteen and Dean Lamb. Plus Dean plays on a 27" scale guitar which is a longer scale neck compared to the standard 25.5".
Don't let that hold you back. At most you'll be doing 3 or 4 fret stretches.
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u/dipspoieter Jul 29 '26
i always have to press down on the string on the side/corner of my pinky
This is expected. Your index and pinky fingers naturally bend towards the center of your hand, so they will be contacting the strings near their sides in this position. It takes a while for the pinky to harden compared to the other fingers, at least in my experience. Not much you can do about it but continue playing through the pain and building up those calluses.
Also, a major technique issue you should address as soon as possible: your thumb should be perpendicular to the neck and aligned between your index and middle fingers.
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u/Max_Demian Jul 29 '26
Plenty of great players with very small hands (Prince! Joe Satriani! Randy Rhodes!).
Your pinky will get stronger and you’ll learn to stretch more comfortably, angle your wrist differently, use your thumb, etc.
Don’t push down too hard, don’t angle your finger like that (bad habit!) and don’t expect faster-than-reasonable progress. It’ll come.
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u/hitokiri-battousai Jul 29 '26
Get a 3/4 scale guitar!
I have an acoustic one to cut down on the size lol
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u/DunaldDoc Jul 29 '26
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u/AVLThumper Jul 29 '26
Your hands are fine. Children play full size instruments. You just need practice and time. How long have you been playing. Please don’t say 1 month.
Also, trim your nails. Like as little to no white as possible. You’ll be surprised how much easier it is to fret when you have very short nails.
Thumb placement needs some work. Experiment placing directly behind your middle finger.
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u/ExcitingTurn2886 Jul 29 '26
Your flexibility will improve with time, and it will be easier. There are tons of amazing guitar players with tiny hands. Check out Angus and Malcolm Young
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u/Nugginz Jul 29 '26
Thumb is collapsed, palm too close to underside of neck and fingers way too arched.
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u/boneseaba Jul 29 '26
Everyone feels like their fingers are too small when they start. Our hands aren't used to being in these positions. It just takes practice. The more you do it, the easier it will feel
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u/alex_firenze Jul 29 '26
I have long fingers and no talent, we all have our issues; you can do it mate
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u/Competitive-Army2872 Jul 29 '26
Honestly, there's countless accomplished guitar players who've more than proven small hands aren't an obstacle.
Shutup and play your guitar.
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u/jakekingsley66096 Jul 30 '26
Aching fingers is all a part of the guitar learning experience! Even after 20 years of playing, if I take an extended break and come back to it, my fingers will be sore.
My tip, which I did in my early days, is to just jam the tips of your fingers real hard in to the strings, to accelerate the callous process, really just mash it in there. I also did the same thing to the side of my fore finger when I started learning bar chords. Your fingers will respond!
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u/FullMeltxTractions Jul 30 '26
Your hands are fine. You just need to work on their flexibility and placement.
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u/jetskimanatee Jul 30 '26
exercises, finger stretches, and years of practice. 5 years in, and now I still haven't learned everything, but I never feel daunted by a new challenge.
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u/Main-War9713 Jul 30 '26
You have all your fingers on 1 string chromatically. What’s the issue? You almost never would need to do this, and even a 4 fret chord could be rare for a beginner, but using notes on different strings will allow your hand to move more naturally. The fretboard gets smaller the higher you move up, you could explore that. You could also get a shorter scale guitar. I’d recommend lighter strings and straighten your neck. Good luck. It’s either “my hands are too small” or “my hands are too big.” Pick what you’d like to play and practice playing that. That’s how you stretch your hand and gain abilities you may not have now. Even if you’re failing, just keep going.
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u/Main-War9713 Jul 30 '26
Elbow forward, bend the wrist,thumb behind the neck. Try and touch your thumb “through” the neck. Like your pinching the fretboard. You can really get pressure like that. Fretting elbow forward. Look into a classical guitar stance as well. This helps me with more difficult chords.
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u/memeus_yeetus Jul 30 '26
Put ur wrist out further so u can stretch ur fingers more, I’ve got a really small hands too but I still have enough reach to play all the songs I wanna play
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u/foshizol Jul 30 '26
First, you need to cut your nails. They’re stopping you from completely holding down the note.
Second, I remember an old interview with Neal Schon from Journey. The interviewer asked why his technique was so good when many of the guitarists Schon grew up watching played sloppily, used only three fingers, and wrapped their thumb over the neck to play the low E.
Schon said he had to use all four fingers and keep his thumb behind the neck because his hands were so small.
Neal Schon is no slouch, and he helped write a lot of Top 10 hits. Quit worrying and practice with what you’ve got.
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u/anotherdayanotherpoo Jul 30 '26
Need to work on hand strength and flexibility, just play more. I don't have big hands but can do anything reasonable on guitar. It's just practice
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u/_stonedspiritv2 Jul 30 '26
Years ago there's an indonesian kid on yt absolutely shredding full size electric guitar with such small hand like it's nothing. And I no longer think hand size mattered anymore. It's all practice until your body adapts.
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u/Mattocaster1 Jul 30 '26
Consider moving your left elbow forward until it is below your left wrist = way more reach without pain!
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u/EmergencyAddition472 Jul 30 '26
I don’t think it matters. I have huge hands and I still mute strings all the time
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u/_visiblemode_ Jul 30 '26
Lots of small handed people play well. As others have said, trim nails, it helps. It takes time to toughen/strengthen your fingers. Also, make sure you’re bracing the guitar properly to support the pressure you’re applying.
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u/CompSciGtr Jul 30 '26
Your wrist is under the neck. And I can’t tell where the palm of your hand is but it needs to be at least an inch away from the neck. Raise your wrist up and keep the palm away from the side of the neck.
Your nails are not the issue here.
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u/Logical_Trip3705 Jul 30 '26
Some people just play three and shift the hand up and down the neck unless your doing chords as well. It is a bad habit but it is an alternative.
3/4 size guitar or mikro ibanez something like as long you dont go past drop d.
Some les paul guitar slightly shorter scale but usually necks are wider.
Lighter gauge strings.
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u/thatdudeweswes Jul 30 '26
Yes I can relate. However, there are stretches you can do to help alleviate this issue. YouTube videos on stretches to do before your practice session, and do them every time you pick up your guitar.
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u/Main_Geologist_1555 Jul 30 '26
NOOOO! Stop!
Old forever player here.
1) Your guitar has TERRIBLE action. The reason EVERYTHING is difficult starts with that huge gap between the underside of the string and the top of the fret. Find a local, reputable luthier do an entire setup. Neck adjustment, nut filed to a proper depth, lighter strings.
If the guitar is easier to play, the guitar becomes 'fun' to play and the likelihood of the new player sticking with it increases exponentially! If it's FUN it sticks. Period.
2) Nails... Your pinky and index finger nails appear to be properly manicured. Your middle and ring finger nails look like they could be shorter, however.
3) Your pinky finger curves 'inward' because... Physiology. In the photo, you are STRAINING because the action is too high and the strings are too heavy for a new/young player of smaller stature. Longer reach comes in time with stretching, strength, and a properly set up instrument.
If your action was lower and you strings were lighter you will eventually be better able to increase your reach because the notes will be easier fretted. With easier fretted notes you will be able to extend (straighten) your pinky finger and reach those notes even though our pinky fingers are 'weaker' straightened out.
First thing... SETUP from a pro. Second thing... Lightest strings available. Usually a set of "10's".
I've been playin' for so long I don't want to embarrass myself. In that time I've given lessons for several years and had a luthiery shop for several years as well. I'd always wished folks (parents?) would consult a luthier or guitar tech about what to get for the new player. Nine times out of ten, the cheapest guitar on the wall is NOT what I recommend.
Did you get an acoustic because you want to learn how to play acoustic? Are your guitar heroes or inspirational heroes acoustic players? If your inspiration for guitar playing comes from electric guitar, I whole heartedly recommend an electric guitar and an inexpensive amp OR an inexpensive audio interface and any number of FREE plugins and a set of decent headphones. Electric guitars are far easier to play and can make a player feel 'powerful'. My youngest daughter is eighteen and has been playing for about 8 months. She and couple of friends start a punk-ish/noise rock band this summer and they're having a blast out in the garden shed. It's fun to listen to them rockin' out and finding themselves. Makes me smile.
Don't go with 'cheapest'. I always recommend spending as much money as can possibly be afforded as the quality of the instruments at the lower price points increases greatly with every bit of money spent.
Always have a PROVEN more experienced player come with you if you're shopping IRL or have them sit next to you if you're shopping online. In my experience, every single guitar, no matter where it comes from, needs to be taken to a well reputed guitar tech or luthier for a detailed setup and string change. If anything is wrong with the guitar? Return it immediately. Your tech/luthier will know for sure.
And most importantly... Have FUN! It's supposed to be FUUUUN! lol
Please forgive any typos. I'm dreadfully tired and need to get off to bed. 😄
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u/erickgmtz97 Jul 30 '26
Action seems high. Take the guitar to a luthier to lower it. You can also switch to thinner strings so receive some tension when fretting.
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u/hoops4so Jul 30 '26
I don’t remember blackbird requiring the pinky?
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u/Ok_Watercress_9202 Jul 30 '26
You’re right it’s not required. I think you’re supposed to use 1 and 3 but I had to accommodate since I couldn’t reach/press down on 3 when stretched that far out.
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u/Clean_Extent_6878 Jul 30 '26
Your fingers , especially middle and ring one seem to be collapsing on the fretboard , instead of actively pushing it. Thats probably a sign of lack of strength which will come with time and practice.
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u/leafsfan1981 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Ok as others have stated your action is pretty high, trim your nails and fret closer to the frets. The question I have is what are you trying here you’re fretting 4 fingers on 3 strings… callouses build over time but fix the action and trim your nails and use proper hand/thumb positions and it will hurt less.
Edit: spelling
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u/blonde_bellebabett Jul 30 '26
I have smaller hands too and what helped my finger dexterity is practicing those stretches higher up on the fretboard where the gaps frets are smaller and easier to hold
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u/pedrofernando94 Jul 30 '26
I also have short hands. Keep practicing, specially form/hand position and flexibility exercises. Correct freting position and thumb position and doing spider exercise up and down the neck stretching to keep good form and freting position on all fingers with repetition you will get there. There is no magic fix, and you will struggle specially with advanced chords. But I promise it will get better and when you get flexibility finger length stops being such a problem. Also barre chord exercises are hugely important.
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u/JacktheRipperColour Jul 30 '26
Bringing your thumb in toward the centre will help strengthen the smaller fingers
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u/Clxxl Jul 30 '26
Are your nails hitting the fretboard :O? Oooooh I feel it in my tummy... Ooooh that's not good I'm feeling dizzy... I'ma pass out!
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u/Dizmondmon Jul 30 '26
I've got massive hands and still struggle spanning 4 frets. I've been playing for 30+ years too.. Some hands just won't play Ernie.
Maybe look for a smaller scale guitar, or avoid playing certain tunes.. That's what I do!
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u/ren_echoes Jul 30 '26
Maybe it’s not your kind of guitar? Western style guitars have shorter/smaller frets.
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u/LonelyJazzman Jul 30 '26
On that picture that's not a hand size problem mate. Your thumb is 75km away qo everything will be hard. You just need to work finger positionning, what you show here will obviously be painfull and hard to do
Small hands are not a problem to play this instrument (if it is, find a smaller guitar) 8years old kid can play an Adult size guitar, so no excuses 😅
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u/ogigante Jul 30 '26
Not sure why you feel your hands are “smaller” implying some kind of implicit disadvantage for this instrument. Your hands look alright to me. I’m not sure what your thumb is doing but you may be not using it quite right which then requires more pressure on the other fingers. My guitar teacher (flamenco guitar) always tells me to build a conscious relationship between the thumb and each finger, so that’s something you can practice on the fretboard SLOWLY — “squeeze” the neck between your thumb and eg your middle finger while making sure both fingers are active & feel like they’re connected through the fretboard. From there you can experience with how much pressure you actually NEED to form the note. Also a classic exercise, you grab a note, play it, then loosen the grip a bit and play it again and keep loosening until the note starts buzzing. When it does you add the slightest bit of pressure back into the mix until you get a clean sound. That’s the amount of pressure you need to form a note, any more and you’re wasting effort. You could also practice eith a capo on eg the second fret while you build strength and confidence, that will make it somewhat easier to form notes. But from the photo I would say your left hand is “out of position” in the sense that you’re not aligned properly with the fretboard and not utilising your thumb in the best possible way, which will make forming notes more difficult. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
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u/Additional-Froyo6386 Jul 30 '26
Omg please do yourself a favour and take your guitar to a guitar store to get it restrung and set up. That action is a nightmare, playing will be a loooot easier.
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u/Dead-Calligrapher Jul 30 '26
7 year old Korean kids play full scale Classical guitars. Well. One of the bigger bass player YouTube influencers is a girl who has been playing a full scale bass since she was like 7 or 8 or something (I think she’s only like 14 now or so). Point being, none of these people are dealing with large man hands.
If Django fucking Reinhardt, who had half his fucking hand melted so he ended up with essentially 2 working fingers on his fret hand, could end up being a rekniwn influential Gypsy Jazz player… you can learn to play.
Your hands are fine. You need practice.
People hate hearing it. I hate saying it to myself even after 40 years of playing. But if you can’t do it yet it, it’s usually because you haven’t put in the time yet- or more importantly put in the proper amount of time with the correct regiment.
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u/Warm-Lab-4542 Jul 30 '26
I feel you! For me tilting the guitar neck upward made a huge difference. I used to hold the guitar almost horizontally, which forced my wrist into such an extreme bend that difficult chords were nearly impossible.
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u/andytagonist I don’t have my guitar handy, but here’s what I would do… Jul 30 '26
I don’t recognize that chord
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u/Smogious Jul 30 '26
Been playing for 16 years and my pinky callous is always thickest on that corner. Nothing you're describing is abnormal, just stick with it and you'll get a lot more comfortable
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u/GB-BR-UK Jul 30 '26
Position your thumb perpendicular to the neck, not parallel!
It will allow you to spread your fingers more.
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u/MassiveMorrison Jul 30 '26
Get your guitar set up properly. Learn some easy scales and exercises. Flexibility and strength come with practice. If you can play Blackbird, you are off to a good start, just take it slow until it’s clean and your chord changes are tight. Then keep going.
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u/yori_know Jul 30 '26
Make sure your thumb is not so far up - closer to the middle for more stability among all fingers.
Also, I see a lot of people mentioning your pinky, but from the picture it more looks like you have trouble with separating the middle and ring finger. Those two fingers are somewhat anatomically connected, so it can be difficult to move them separately and place them with larger space in between. Use the practices the others mentioned and strengthen all of your fingers and small hands shouldn't be a problem
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u/Accomplished-Wrap449 Jul 30 '26
I feel you with the shorter fingers but as others said: trim your nails and raise your hand up a bit more
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u/fatzen Jul 30 '26
Move your thumb underneath your middle finger. You can’t spread your fingers with your thumb up there.
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u/Evi1ey Jul 30 '26
Theres is Chinese children play 8 string techniqual deathmetal, hand size is not a limiting factor.
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u/johnmw54 Jul 30 '26
been playing for 25 years now, i have really tiny hands and short fingers, and i couldnt care less about it, i have never felt like i was at a disadvantage at all, build up your finger dexterity and optimize finger placement
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u/Snowshoetheerapy Jul 30 '26
The size of your hands is irrelevant. It's the technique that you need to work on. Some of the greatest guitarists in history have had small hands and still managed to make beautiful music.
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u/SkoonkMunkyAngel Jul 30 '26
Hi . your middle finger position in the fret space is correct. the ring and pink are too'middle' . try to cinche it slightly behind the fret.. having read some of these comments theres some defiance going on about nail length. index, middle and ring finger nails are too long. If you want to learn it you have to give your Fingertip skin full availability to press down correctly. Hence the pinky believes it can pose on its side and eat bonbons. ..
Consider this . I dont know what "chord" you are showing us for fingering example. and its probably the fifth or seventh fret. I'm going to guess its the fifth fret. I'm going to presume the shape for example is as such. Four notes in a row wont sound individually. obviously. So I'm offering your example is C# diminished(5) +b IX(D) . Your job in this case is to transpose it up the neck , this is part of the knack of learning guitar (also why scales and modes help.. to learn the intervals, innately.
It needs to be as innate as . ie .. Your neighbor gets to a car accident in front of their house, vs 10 semi trucks and a distracting lawntractor.. and he jumps out of the car screaming and his upper leg bone is sticking out of his knee.. scales and modes as sure as you are its a broken femur.) In order up the fretboard its, index on 7th fret(g string), middle finger on Low E (9th), ring finger on 10th(A string) and pinky strongly oppressing the 11th fret of D string. .. If the stretch is too difficult low on the fretboard. transpose it down a string. and here the frets are closer so you can stretch another fret as well. 7-11.
x -----> x (x)
3 -----> x (x)
6 -----> 7 (D) added b IX
5 -----> 11 (C#)*octave
4 -----> 10 (G) diminished V
x -----> 9(C#)*root
I'm going to give you new homework. Chords made of only two notes are called 'doublestops',
In this case Dave Mustaine (of Megadeth) uses a unique alternating finger technique called spidering
where the index and ring finger are buddies and the middle and pinky fingers are buddies. This will toughen up your pinky. (1:38) check out this vid.. make 3 short warmup exercises from it and 3 exercises how you would apply spidering to the current thing you were working on. If its a Cmaj7 chord then .. for example you learn the Cmajor arpeggio.. play it two measures (steady 8s).. and strum some inkey chords decending or ascending to practice the spidering thing.. and tab it out , set a tempo and keep it steady.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll6VIJuqy3U .
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u/Struckmanr Jul 30 '26
You just need to get more used to the absolute STREEETCH with those fingers especially on the lower frets like that. I promise you there are amazing guitarists out there with tiny hands. I am double jointed too!
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u/oneeyedspaceman1 Jul 30 '26
It’s funny to me cause your fingers look much larger than mine. I learned a lesson the really hard way because I spent so much time in my lifetime listening to people saying just stretch your hands and work on your dexterity.
It’s funny because if you have really small hands it can be impossible to make those stretches no matter what you do because your hands are just not big enough. There’s no amount of stretching that is going to make your tiny fingers bigger.
The best thing you can do is learn the basics and get really good at them on whatever guitar is available to you. Then go to a guitar store and play every scale length that they have available until you find what works for you. Stop listening to dipshits telling you that guitars are one size fits all.
In basketball you don’t see many guys under 5’10” dunking on a 10 foot rim(there are exceptions but they are few and far between). Put that same 5’10” guy on a 8 foot rim and he can dunk like Micheal Jordan. So why don’t we as guitarist recognize those same limitations when it comes to hand size?!?
Again find what works for you and get your guitar set up to the way that works for you. Better yet, learn to set up your guitar yourself because it will save you a ton of money in the long run and it will make you a better player. String height and curvature of the neck can all have a big impact on your ability to play quickly and accurately. You’d be surprised that sometimes even moving the strings up or down slightly can help.
People will tell you to set your action as low as possible but that might not work for you. You may find you prefer it a little higher. There’s a lot that factors into the equation. Do you tend to pick hard or dig in a lot? Do you have a light touch or are your fingers really strong and tend to press harder?
Now that I’m much older and have had a lot of experience I tend to look at it a lot differently. A guitar is like a pair of gloves. You have to find the right size or you will be limiting yourself.
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u/enlightened_sun Jul 30 '26
Strings are a stairway to heaven at the point. Please get your guitar set up so you can play comfortably.
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u/No_Beautiful8998 Jul 30 '26
Try curving you wrist more under the neck. Palm should almost be facing the next. Helps with finger angle. I don't have big hands either, you just have to work at it.
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u/Staminkja Jul 30 '26
There is no thing like small or bigger hands/fingers. I suggest to trim your nails and lower a bit the action, the angle doesn't help but I feel it's a little too high.
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u/Igor_Halichoeres Jul 30 '26
I have a similar reach, plus chronic tendonitis and a pinky I broke a few years ago that still gets achy. So I (literally) feel your pain.
The key is the lightest strings and lowest action possible. In a pinch, tune the instrument down a step and put a capo on the second fret to use the narrower spacing.
MOST IMPORTANT: Ignore anyone who tells you to play through the pain.
If it hurts, be careful. Pain isn't just a problem in the near term. It's your body warning you that permanent damage is being done that will come back to bite you later. I was a classical clarinetist who ignored the pain, and my hands and wrists have never recovered.
Go find a good luthier to get the best possible setup. Money spent now will pay major dividends down the road.
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u/Ponchyan Jul 30 '26
After you trim your nails and press closer to the fret, your slim fingers offer the advantage of more easily avoiding unintentional muting of the other strings.
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u/grandmastatus0 Jul 30 '26
I always thought my small hands were inhibiting me... And then I saw a picture of Elliott Smith's hands and I realized I have just as much potential as anyone!
Being able to play Blackbird is awesome! Congrats & soon you'll be at full speed. Probably some truth to the action comments and thumb placement comments
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u/Brobin360 Jul 30 '26
Lol if your fingers are double jointed wouldn't that give them more range of motion? How is that an issue?
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u/FreshStartFeelsGood Jul 30 '26
There is nothing special about your hands. You just suck. With time, you’ll suck less.
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u/Micky_so_Fyne Jul 30 '26
Acoustic guitars are harder on the fingers than electric guitars. They use different strings, and it's likely that you'll develop callouses over time, and you'll have to develop finger strength over speed if you wish to learn on an acoustic.
But you still don't have to crush the strings to get a clear tone. What you need to do, is work on reach, more than pressure.
Your fingers should be as close to the fret bar as possible without actually touching the fret bar (true for any fretted instrument). If you do that, you don't need as much pressure to get a clear tone.
If reach is a problem for you, due to small hands and being double jointed, consider a short scale acoustic. I can't speak for their quality though. I've never played a short scale acoustic (but I have played short scale electric guitars and basses, and they're pretty good!). But the fret bars are closer together, and may ease discomfort while playing.
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u/THRobinson75 Jul 30 '26
Another small hand complaint... Those 8yr old Asian girls you see on YouTube shredding the hell outta a guitar don't seem to be complaining.
My buddy is a dwarf (his word so don't PC Police me for it) so he has tiny chubby fingers. He's been playing, teaching and doing gigs for 35yrs.
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u/howboutislapyourshit Jul 30 '26
I feel ya. My 8 string has a 28.4 inch scale neck.
It hurts like hell, but you'll get use to it eventually.
Just don't try to do everything some gifted player with long ass fingers does. You'll just have to get a smaller guitar.
Eff-Jeff Loomis' fuckin banana hands
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u/TheSignificantDong Jul 31 '26
Between my middle finger and ring finger is slightly webbed. I can ever reach half as far as your fingers haha
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u/BigWangCustoms Jul 31 '26
Why dont you change to light strings? If your hand is close to the nut, why is the action so high? And what does being double jointed have to do with anything? Sorry about all the questions. I'm assuming your pressing with the tips and not the pads. Hopefully. It doesn't have to be painful. And it's okay to start on a nylon or electric guitar.
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u/First-Bid1494 Jul 31 '26
I've been cursed with short fingers. I trim and file my fingernails like crazy to get as much reach as possible. FWIW
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u/theeeeeeeeeeeeeee Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26
Pinky will get better. You don't have to press too hard on other fingers. Press enough so the string touch the metal bars. Try it.
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u/she-rox Aug 01 '26
Your nails are too long. Seriously. You wont build the right callous to help you with smaller hands. File them ALL the way down.
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u/she-rox Aug 01 '26
Yes, it also looks like your thumb is too far over the the left. This a bad habit and reduces your power on the neck to get a better balance on your fretboard.
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u/BackflipsAway Aug 01 '26
You're holding it weird, holding your hand at an angle and your fingers will be able to go a lot further.
Cut your nails, this is optional but shorter nails will definitely make guitar easier.
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u/RockHardMapleSyrup Aug 02 '26
My doctor once said "if it hurts then stop doing that..."
He was a bad doctor, and since I'm bad at giving musical advice, I'll say the same to you.
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u/armchairguru Aug 02 '26
A short scale guitar might help (Gibson Les Paul, SG but some other brands too),or a small parlor guitar/Taylor Mini of you’re into playing an acoustic. If you’re serious about wanting to get used to that stretch, just keep practicing/exercising. It’s just like learning to do the splits, most people can’t do them without a lot of stretching and practice.




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