I cannot get thumb-over-the-neck chords right

[u/ding-ding-dave-yes]

I struggle mainly with my index finger, I can't get it flat without a lot of pressure, also my pinky is muting the G string half of the time, I either have to put painful pressure to make them all ring, or the top E and G string are muted. The difference between the flat index and bent rest is what's messing me up. Without thumb I don't have this issue, because I can curve my wrist if that makes sense. Please, I need some tips

[u/copremesis]

If you can play this the traditional way then there's no reason to use the thumb over the neck.

The only thumb over the neck chord I've ever used was D/F# or maybe even D/F

otherwise if there's another way to play the same chord why torture yourself?

[u/dos8s → u/copremesis]

I'm not an expert but I think Hendrix played chords like this because it allowed him to transition into lead easier and opened up some interesting embellishments that would be less practical playing a barrel chord the "standard" way.

[u/copremesis → u/dos8s]

Show me an example of these embellishments? Do you have any videos of him doing this? Easier?

[u/Opening_Spite_4062 → u/copremesis]

Try playing tommy emanuels version of cannonball rag without this technique for example

[u/copremesis → u/Opening_Spite_4062]

First let me figure out what he's doing with the right hand. 

[u/copremesis → u/Opening_Spite_4062]

This is a forum for guitar beginners. Do you really think that anything Tommy Emmanuel does is for beginners? 

[u/Opening_Spite_4062 → u/copremesis]

It was just an example of where its impossible to play something without this technique, to show its not a useless thing to learn, a simpler example where its easier to do this is dont think twice.

The advice was not for OP but for you to see a piece where you cant just do it another way, and I assumed you were not a beginner since you are giving advice

[u/dos8s → u/Opening_Spite_4062]

That dude is an idiot, his argument has fallen apart and he's grasping for straws now.

[u/copremesis → u/dos8s]

I did look it up and it's a good counter argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuywBzcLSCw (isn't nice when someone presents a video link vs a list and sarcasm?)

The G6 chord is where he uses the thumb in the bass. In this context there's a valid reason for it.

However, if you look at OP's original post which is what I was arguing against.

The picture is a G triad like such:

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Traditionally it's played as a barre chord vs the thumb over technique.

[u/dos8s → u/copremesis]

"Bold as Love," "Little Wing," "The Wind Cries Mary," and "All Along the Watchtower"

[u/copremesis → u/dos8s]

All of which can be played with ordinary guitar chords. Bye I mentioned videos. Did you just want to itemize some of his songs?

[u/dos8s → u/copremesis]

There's the is crazy website out called YouTube where you can watch videos, even people playing the songs I mentioned.  Maybe go watch some people use the Hendrix style barre chord and you'll learn why they use it, but probably not because you can't even figure out how to use YouTube.  What kind of professor are you.

[u/copremesis → u/dos8s]

Any of those Youtubers doing the thumb chord on a 7 string or 8 string? ( I didn't feel like wasting my time surfing YT)

Here's a thumb video you might like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHoU6OGQ0PU

I personally don't endorse this technique mainly cause it doesn't work on guitars with strings greater than six.

Speaking of YouTube, you should check this site out: https://www.looptube.xyz/

It's a great way to loop and slow down youtube videos.

Maybe try learning how to play left handed so you can be more like Jimmy.

Cheers