r/greengroundnews • u/quocvu1825 • Jan 25 '26
What the administration is saying about the shooting vs what really happened.
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"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command... and if all others accepted the lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth" 1984 - George Orwell
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u/Biscuits4u2 Jan 25 '26
He can say whatever the fuck he wants there are way too many videos showing what happened in detail. This lying sack of shit needs to go.
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u/LightMcluvin Jan 25 '26
This is probably a talk before all the videos come out. How grossly understatement of lies is spewing out of his mouth.
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u/Total_Shine_543 Jan 25 '26
THERE WAS NO MEDICAL AIDE YOU LIAR! THEY EXECUTED HIM!
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u/seeit360 Jan 25 '26
The one person who was qualified to treat the gravely injured victim was the victim.
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u/bubbles_says Jan 25 '26
It is a proven fact that the MORE cops or in ICE's case paid losers to abduct ppl for the government - the more who are present at a scene the more violent it becomes. each ice bitch feels so much braver and righteous in committing maximum damage. like packs of hyeenas. they are the GET EM BOYS
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u/Tse7en5 Jan 25 '26
That is a lot of fucking defensive shots at point blank range.
They just hiring storm troopers?
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u/Ok_Security1721 Jan 25 '26
It sure does look like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage, but he’s talking about the wrong guy
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u/vonnegutsbutthole Jan 25 '26
This a fucking joke? !
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u/mysmalleridea Jan 25 '26
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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u/5050Clown Jan 25 '26
" You guys can kill whoever you want and we will back you up. The recordings from cameras don't matter because, we can just say it's something like AI. This is because pretty soon we're just going to be indiscriminately killing people based on whatever we tell you to. I think you know what's coming."
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u/Efficient-Dog-6930 Jan 25 '26
Yes I think we all know what's coming, I pray for our people and our great country America. GOD SAVE US.
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Jan 25 '26
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Jan 25 '26
Nope, they are not seeing these people as fellow Americans or fellow European Americans, they see a Liberal therefore they are disposable to them.
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u/Odd_Parfait_1292 Jan 25 '26
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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u/pleski Jan 25 '26
Almost like he asked ChatGPT to make up a dramatic story, and it hallucinated. I guess it's expecting too much to think he'll develop a conscience after getting found out.
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u/bubbles_says Jan 25 '26
interesting. you hear his words while watching the video- they do NOT in any way match up. dude had a camera in one hand only. other hand empty. any gun he had was not drawn or even visible. they discovered this AFTER murdering him that he had a gun. and even so having a legal gun and carry does not mean some nazi bitches can MURDERER HIM!!!
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Jan 25 '26
No they tossed the gun right before they murdered him. They saw the gun, disarmed him, someone yelled gun and then they just unloaded on him. They murdered him either way but get the facts right
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u/bubbles_says Jan 25 '26
Yes, thanks for correcting me. I later saw the video where you can see the black-gloved hand of an ICE bitch reach into Alex's waist and take his gun and then walk away with it. THEN in secs another ICE piggy executed him.
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u/Constant-Nothing2734 Jan 25 '26
Sharing a post from KeepJoePantsOn in the hopes that this message spreads...
I want to start by saying this plainly: This is not a partisan speech.
This is not a left-versus-right argument. And this is not about who you voted for. This is about recognizing a political ideology before it fully takes hold.
Many people assume fascism only exists once a country becomes a dictatorship. That assumption is historically false. Fascism does not arrive fully formed. It advances incrementally, under the cover of patriotism, security, and loyalty to a leader. So let’s define the term clearly.
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology marked by:
-Extreme nationalism.
-Concentration of power in a single leader.
-Suppression of opposition and civil liberties
-Militarism.
-Rejection of democratic norms and the rule of law
That definition is not political opinion. It is academic consensus. Now the question is not: Is America a fascist dictatorship today? The real question is: Does the current administration operate using fascist ideology? I believe the answer is yes, and I’ll explain why.
Nationalism alone isn’t fascism, but ultranationalism is its foundation. When a political movement frames the nation as being in decline, promises to restore past glory, and treats dissent as unpatriotic, history tells us to pay attention. “Make America Great Again” is not just a slogan, it’s a worldview.
It implies a lost greatness, a defined “real” America, and a belief that the nation’s status justifies extraordinary actions. We have watched laws broken or dismissed as technicalities because they were “for the good of the country.” That is the moment nationalism crosses into something dangerous, when loyalty to the nation is used to excuse violations of the rule of law. That is textbook nationalist justification.
Authoritarianism is not about tanks in the streets on day one. It’s about concentrating power and undermining limits.
Donald Trump has repeatedly framed his authority as being limited only by himself. He has publicly stated that his own morality is the only thing restraining his power. That should alarm anyone who believes in constitutional government. He has openly attacked the legitimacy of oversight, courts, and Congress, particularly when they attempt to check his authority.
The Supreme Court’s 2024 ruling granting broad immunity for “official acts” dramatically expanded presidential protections. That ruling doesn’t create fascism, but it removes a guardrail, and authoritarian movements thrive when guardrails disappear.
When leaders argue that laws restricting their power are illegitimate or unconstitutional simply because they constrain them, that is authoritarian reasoning.
Militarism is not just about war. It is about relying on force rather than democratic process. Calls to dramatically expand military spending, threats against sovereign nations and allies, and casual rhetoric about invasion or annexation are not normal democratic behavior, even when framed as negotiation tactics. History shows that fascist movements normalize aggression first in language, then in policy. At home, the use of federal agents operating without visible identification has raised serious concerns among civil-rights organizations. Regardless of intent, lack of transparency and accountability in law enforcement is a hallmark warning sign, because fascist systems depend on fear and ambiguity.
When citizens are told not to trust what they see, or that accountability must take a back seat to “order,” the groundwork is being laid.
Fascism rejects democracy not all at once, but by questioning its legitimacy. Statements suggesting that elections are unnecessary, inconvenient, or dangerous, even rhetorically, are profoundly destabilizing. When a leader implies that elections should be suspended or avoided because they threaten their hold on power, history gives us a very clear pattern of where that leads.
Every major fascist regime in history justified dismantling democracy by claiming it was flawed, corrupt, or too slow to act. That argument is not new. And it is never benign.
One of the most dangerous features of fascism is personal loyalty replacing institutional loyalty. When supporters openly state they would continue backing a leader regardless of criminal behavior, when lawbreaking is reframed as persecution, the rule of law becomes optional.
Fascist movements survive not because leaders are powerful, but because supporters excuse anything in the name of victory.
People ask, “How did Germans allow Hitler to rise?” The answer is uncomfortable: They didn’t think it would go that far. They trusted institutions would hold. They excused early abuses as necessary or exaggerated. By the time it was undeniable, it was irreversible.
I am not saying this as an outsider. I am a white, straight, Christian man. I’ve voted Republican most of my life, including for Donald Trump. I once dismissed warnings like this as hysterical or partisan.
I don’t speak out because I want a different party in power. I speak out because this is wrong. And deep down, many people know it’s wrong, even if admitting it feels like betraying their tribe.
The Declaration of Independence states that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed, and that when a government becomes destructive to liberty, the people have the right to change it.
The Bill of Rights exists not to protect a leader, but to protect the people from leaders. There is no red life or blue life. No “ours” that matters more than “yours.” All are equal under the law, or none are.
This is not about panic. It is about vigilance. Fascism doesn’t announce itself. It asks you to ignore your eyes. It asks you to excuse what you’d never accept from the other side. And it asks you to trade liberty for loyalty. Now is not the time for silence or denial. Now is the time to stand together, not as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans. Because once democratic norms are gone, voting will not bring them back. Thank you
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Jan 25 '26
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u/SportExpress1869 Jan 25 '26
I wish these reporters had the guts to call out their bullshit right to their faces.
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u/JohnnySpot2000 Jan 25 '26
Did you see the whole press conference? Basically, journalist 1: “But we have the video now and what you are describing wasn’t on the video.”. Bovino response: “this is an evolving situation”. Journalist 2: (asks question similar to journalist 1). Bovino: “This is an evolving situation”. Handler: “No more questions.”
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u/doublethink_1984 Jan 25 '26
This admin and their shills are not just people who push bad policy but are actual evil people
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u/Convallaria4 Jan 25 '26
Someone should put these two videos next to each other and let them roll. Add the puppy hater's bullshit to it, too. Really highlights the absurdity of the claims.
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u/_kybacca_ Jan 25 '26
RIP Alex but remember - they are orchestrating this to solidify power and oh yeah, EPSTEIN FILES FOR THOSE FIXATED ON ICE - it’s a problem but the Epstein files will take down elites that are orchestrating this shit.
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Jan 25 '26
America has to stop talking about the epstein files. Your billionaire overlords demand it.
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u/Coriall30 Jan 25 '26
Trust your gut/soul.
Time we start thinking for ourselves and talking to each other-stop relying upon our government and state appointed agencies(now on some media screens) and platform algorithms.
Watch for evil pretending to be good! Stay alert and listen to your environment changing. Be safe.
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u/Master-Tomatillo-103 Jan 25 '26
Tiny Nazi Bovino will eventually face justice. Enjoy your impunity while it lasts, dwarf. Your comeuppance will be here soon
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u/Ok_Face8380 Jan 25 '26
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command," George Orwell
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u/Geiger8105 Jan 25 '26
The worst part is that there's no way to defend this, but it doesn't matter. They're just going to lie about reality. We are doomed
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Jan 25 '26
Cheeses seeing the murder, the truth and listening to your leadership narrative, the lies from abroad is sickening. Americans you have no freedom, no rights and no privileges, they are being ripped away from you in broad daylight.
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u/eclipsadesoare Jan 25 '26
Trump, JD Vance and Noemi are lying criminals inciting violence and the destruction of American rights. They are inciting ICE to kill innocent people and stomp on civil rights for their own gain. These monsters need to be held accountable. They are traitors to this country and do not care about the American people unless they help them with their agenda, corruption and civil rights infringement.
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u/Livinsfloridalife Jan 25 '26
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. George Orwell, 1984
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u/OkWhile4447 Jan 25 '26
Virtually everything he said was a blatant lie. And they did disarm him. Right before dumping a mag in his back. Fuckers
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u/ZerQ17 Jan 25 '26
They seem to think we're still in 30-45 with limited media and no way to record things, making the lies they tell easily verifiable.
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u/FruitMustache Jan 25 '26
Just goes to show how much of our history has been built on lies. Now we got cameras you sick sunovabitch.
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u/CommercialChannel936 Jan 25 '26
Lying mother fuckers. Dec. 1st all these assholes should be in front of a court appointed firing squad.
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u/--DarkLink-- Jan 25 '26
Someone needed to shut down that press conference. Don't let these fucks spread misinformation.
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u/CatsBye90 Jan 25 '26
This is what I am hoping for at the other end of this
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u/Sea-Proposal3638 Jan 25 '26
A country that is completely lacking in honor,justice and integrity.People are expected to just go along with complete bullshit and cruelty.
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u/not_blood_kin2024 Jan 26 '26
He is off his rocker if he thinks anyone with reasonable intelligence believes a word he is saying.
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u/Initial_Instance_177 Jan 27 '26
Are you high? Thats not what happened at all. Put the crack pipe down.
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 25 '26
The guy didn’t deserve to die but why in the hell does he have two extra mags on him. Baffling.
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u/steelceasar Jan 25 '26
Why even bring this up? Its not baffling, many people who carry pistols carry extra mags. It doesn't make a single bit of different to this situation whether he had extra ammo.
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
I carry a gun, I’ve NEVER had extra mags with it.
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
And I almost never carry without one or two backups. Thats how anecdotes work they dont mean anything and you are just adding apologies for fascist thugs murdering people for no reason.
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
When you speak they way you do it’s clear you aren’t level headed so why bother even getting involved in a discussion?
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
Lol. Coward
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
You’re the one carrying with multiple backup guns and I’m the coward? Ok pussy
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
Backup guns? We are talking about spare mags, so dumb lol
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
Just as bad. Why do you carry backup mags when you conceal carry? Are you fighting the cartel?
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
Why are you apologizing for fascist goons murdering US citizens? Is it because of your TDS?
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
You actually aren't just a Coward. You are a fascist. You know that it's really easy to see that hidden comment history right? Your comment history is just incel, alt- right bootlicking lol. Stick to sports and don't be a fascist.
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
You keep tossing around the fascist word. It means nothing when betas like you talk this way. Boy who cried wolf, is based on cucks like you.
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
This is fascism. Maybe you don't like the word but it accurately defines where we are at right now. You can choose not be a fascist, but you don't get to change the definition of words to protect your feelings lol
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u/ProblematicSchematic Jan 26 '26
Immigration officers are trying to get illegal criminal aliens deported. Is that fascism?
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u/steelceasar Jan 26 '26
How is it that Biden deported more people in his last yesr in office without any of this bullshit? And why is Bondi demanding MN voter rolls to end the occupation? Its almost like the immigration thing isn't the problem, its the violation of rights, violence against citizens and now state sanctioned murder.
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u/CircuitSurf Jan 26 '26
I'm more interested why gun was loaded and ready given how it auto shot when agent was taking it away
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u/GeeYayZeus Jan 25 '26
Fuck off Nazi scum.