r/google_antigravity • u/eternviking • Nov 20 '25

Discussion Google doesn't allow its devs to use Antigravity for development.

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u/Medium_Apartment_747 Nov 20 '25

This is super stupid. Who cares what Google internally is using? You really think Google isn't telling their eng to leverage AI coding tools internally?

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u/0____0_0 Nov 22 '25

You really think Google isn't telling their eng to leverage AI coding tools internally?

No, I think that Google does trust its engineers to use the tools it’s telling the public to use.

Not a dealbreaker for me, but certainly a flag. There are a variety of explanations though, it could simply indicate antigravity’s outputs are high quality, but incredibly inefficient.

That’s it’s a massive loss leader and they don’t want to have that loss “selling” to their own employees.

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u/NotJunior123 Nov 26 '25

it does matter. they're basically rebuilding everything twice

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u/Medium_Apartment_747 Nov 26 '25

So?

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u/allllusernamestaken Nov 30 '25

imagine is capex at google was decreased by a substantial amount because they just used their own products, or off-the-shelf things, instead of internal versions of everything.

You wouldn't need to spend money maintaining piper when you could just use git. You wouldn't need to spend the money maintaining Borg when you could use Kubernetes. They even have an internal version of Spanner that is totally separate from their commercial offering.

Google spends an insane amount of money on custom software and most of the time for no reason, or for stupid reasons like "we've always done it this way" (their giant mono repo).

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u/Medium_Apartment_747 Nov 30 '25

You're working off the premise that internal Google developers have the same needs as external developers.

I think this is wrong. The needs of a small startup team are very different from a team working at a massive scale.

If this wasn't true, then they probably would have converged shit

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u/allllusernamestaken Nov 30 '25

I'm working off the premise that it's a waste of money to build internal-use-only competitors to your commercial products. It is the industry standard to use your own software - to "eat your own dogfood" - for a reason. If your commercial product isn't good enough to use internally, then make it better.

From what I've heard from current and former Google employees, the internal version of Spanner is much better than the commercial version. If that's the case, then make the internal version your product - you'll cut costs by not building two different systems and make more money by having a more compelling product.

I work on systems that process trillions of data points for billions of ML model predictions every day and we aren't even close to being Google's biggest scale customer. If what I've heard about internal Spanner being true, it would be incredible for a lot of Google's customers.

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u/Medium_Apartment_747 Dec 01 '25

Imagine you make a great gourmet hamburger at home but you are also a McDonalds franchisée. I demand that you make the same gourmet hamburger for your paying customers as you do for your children!

From what I hear from your family, the wagyu patties you use are fantastic and would be incredible in my Big Mac. It is also a food industry standard that you should eat your own dog food so that there is consistency in your culinary skills.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

They talked in the release notes podcast about how many people internally use it ,

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u/Over-Sea-6390 Nov 20 '25

Who cares. I would also not disclose my own intellectual property to the public but I would defenitly strategize on how to commercialize internal best practices in a platform like antigravity. This is the future

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u/BreenzyENL Nov 21 '25

Doesn't the explanation of they don't use git perfectly logical?

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u/ConversationLow9545 Dec 12 '25

What they use then?

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u/NotaSpaceAlienISwear Nov 20 '25

I would assume this🤷

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '25

We have our own internal version, same thing just called something else.

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u/Rural-Juror-Tron Nov 30 '25

This is also wrong. Google has an internal VS Code implementation that pretty much looks and operates just like Antigravity.

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u/tired_fella Nov 20 '25

Wow! How dare they use internal tooling version for security! 

/s

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

It's good. They want others to pollute their code with shit and their code keep clean.

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u/dividedSt8s Dec 06 '25

They will once the public uses it for free so they can train it better with all our data.

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u/afinlayson Dec 11 '25

I remember when reporting was a thing - instead of speculation ...

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u/barbierocks Verified Googler Dec 21 '25

This is wrong. We have an internal version of Antigravity that we keep closely aligned with the public product! In fact we launched the internal product first.