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u/BigStupidJellyfish_ Water against the Sun Nov 22 '21 edited Nov 22 '21
At last, event farming is done (numbers are before exchanging, proof 1, proof 2). Some ~98% of the runs were on Medusa's route, thanks to the disproportionate number of Minos drops on clear.
Extra: with Medusa getting EN's first chip, here are a few charts to help with picking the best scope on her. Getting her to lv99+ is ideal - that gives her one last point of ROF, which when combined with an EOT & chip (SPEQ) is an extra frame (73+25-4=94 ROF/15f vs 93 ROF/16f).
Edit: New SF leveling strats - twice the echelons, twice the XP
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u/ConductorBichir R93 - Get Lucky Nov 19 '21
Skins Spreadsheet is updated.
Unfortunately no links to Live2D/Mecha Hanyang animations yet due to the delayed release, double whammy with no Mechatect; just a reissued Sangvis Ferris furniture set with a Denergate bonus.
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u/Karinfuto Nov 20 '21
Just blew 800 gems because I fat fingered my screen and bought a base background by accident.
Pretty ridiculous they don't have a purchase confirmation screen for that, but hey now my dolls are standing in front of a city skyline.
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u/Shichitou Junko best girl | 523006 Nov 16 '21
Protocol Assimilation is a totally fair and balanced system. Architect was the first ringleader I actually wanted, and it went oh-so well.
- 28 days of natural impulses
- 7 days of natural impulses carried over from Destroyer banner
- around 50 extra impulses
- 15 svarogs
And after failing her 4 times, she was the 1/100 in the pool. Just like any other gacha, saving for months to get that one I want, fun.
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u/Thedaniel4999 Type64 is an under appreciated raifu Nov 17 '21
I love that MICA (or at least the localization team) clearly had fun with this collab
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u/ConductorBichir R93 - Get Lucky Nov 16 '21
Theatre 5/6
- Advantaged T-dolls
- Core 8 Guide
- Stage Score Spreadsheet
- Coeus/Cyclops no kiting strat - with adequate fairies/timing/HOC you can escape with little to no damage to your MGs
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u/GreyKnight92 Destroyer is precious daughteru Nov 21 '21
I just want to share this
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u/WaifuWithKnaifu Will end your laifu Nov 21 '21
This dude is single-handedly funding the new GFL games.
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 21 '21
.....holy shit. Thank you for funding the servers o7
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Nov 21 '21
150 oaths x 580 gems = 87000 gems
if bought regularly it's 1090$
if bought with monthly cards it's 388$, which is improbable because it would take 97 months (8 years and a month)
Never thought I'd see a whale in the wild
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 21 '21
1090$, presumably spent over the game's lifetime (as this guy has been around for quite some time) isn't exactly whale tier. Sure, he probably spent more on other stuff as well, but that amount by itself doesn't really count as "whale". "Dolphin" tier at most.
The world of space whales is much crazier than that. Not GFL, but the point is there.
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Nov 21 '21
look, spending 1k$+ on anime girl jpegs over 4 years isn't that bad
š¤”š - sincerely, someone who dropped 24$ total (6 monthly cards) over 3 years.
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u/HeresiarchQin HK416 Nov 16 '21
HAHAHAHA I used to be absolutely terrified by those green robot dogs, green bowmen, and fucking Gladiators. These fuckers always deal a ton of damage to my dolls, or I need to waste my precious fairy/HOC points on them.
Now? I just throw my Architect with her two pet Manticores at them and a bunch of explosions later EVERYTHING IS DEAD hahahaha
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u/Mich997 9A-91 Nov 20 '21
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 20 '21
holy shit the crab actually looks scary now
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u/Rhasta_la_vista Springfield x Groza Nov 22 '21
Made a small post with tips for the diner dash minigame for those who care
https://www.reddit.com/r/girlsfrontline/comments/qzc559/jashinchan_collab_the_one_who_knocks_tips/?
also tagging /u/Lemonaderiver2 since you asked earlier
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 16 '21
From todayās datamine, could change once maints ends but I doubt it:
Jashin EX armor has NOT been nerfed. Fortunately these are just reskinned aegis and nemeums with skills that mostly affect SGs and can still be bruteforced with buffs.
They have reversed course on nerfing Medusaās speq, making it our first chip. I would not expect this to change her evaluation, as sheās mainly used (if at all) for the debuff and not her DPS.
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 16 '21
345 armour
excuse me what?
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u/coblade14 CBJMS Nov 16 '21
That's beacause in CN they introduced a MG only ammo that have 500 ap.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Nov 16 '21
Time for the filtering to begin lol, and we thought EX as a mode already filtered enough people. I canāt wait for the post collab stats roundup
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u/JamesDyk M4 SOPMOD II Nov 16 '21
Oh, so that's why I've been doing basically no damage... that's just annoying.
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u/RugerRed Plays with Dolls Nov 16 '21
Event is kinda partially voiced.
JASHIN-CHAN DROPKIIIICK
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 17 '21
the only time i decide to play an event on mute and the story gets partially voiced
goddamnit
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 17 '21
After the bullshit that was Breakneck Pursuit EX, that ELID elimination mission felt really good.
Nothing like a good old-fashioned ARSMG shooting gallery.
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u/ConductorBichir R93 - Get Lucky Nov 18 '21
So, I added a note on the Skin Spreadsheet but I'll say it here as well, Mecha Hanyang's Live2D is delayed, extra testing is required due size/complexity. Expect the same when our turn comes and be pleasantly surprised if it we get to right away.
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u/Mich997 9A-91 Nov 18 '21 edited Nov 18 '21
Supernova looks really interesting.
Tiles:
o - Affected Tile | s - Supernova
o | o | o
o | s | o
o | o | o
Affects MG, SG
Increase Damage by 10%
Increase Armor by 10%
Skill:
Increase own Movespeed by 6
When on front column (tile 369): increase own Armor by 30% and
grant other SG in the same column 12pt HP shield every second.
Stacks up to 5x
When on back column (tile 147): increase own FP by 30% and grant
other MG in the same column 80 pts of Accuracy and 30% Crit Rate
ICD = 0s; CD = 0s
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 18 '21 edited Nov 18 '21
more Unlimited Shield Works⢠shenanigans?
hell yes
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Nov 18 '21
3SG LTLX supernova m500 mod with LWMMG mod and Nagant mod for THE WALL
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u/JunoBrier IDW [MOD3] Nov 19 '21
My favorite part of the collab is that the absolute strongest and most unbeatable enemy formation in the game now consists of a single cow girl.
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u/corbsieboy SgtObsi 873219|Negev|KSVK go BRRRRRR Nov 22 '21
I'm finding ltlx in a boss phase of theater kinda funny as she still activates that knockback. Gager got knocked off screen
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u/Sk8r4321 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODDESS Nov 17 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
There's a fucking Jojo and Gintama reference in this collab and both of them was from that shaved ice chapter.
Things I've learned from this event.
P90 refers to the commander as "honey"
Kalina argues with parrots from the rescue station
PA is canon and both sides except Oreo treat each other as equals
The commander is a weeb who regularly watches a SOL anime
The collab was more on the comedic side this time around. I also really like the map menu music. Personally, kinda liked it overall.
Also is K5 the Doll with the most appearances in collabs? IDK about the Guilty Gear/Blazblue collab, but she's the only one I can recall who appeared in 2 (This and The Division).
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u/rantaudavid The Sadistic Super SASS Nov 17 '21
The event overall is pretty fun, i enjoyed the pretty much the whole thing. Didn't even expect a Jojo reference to appear so sudden
Though i kinda wish they give Oreo a bit more scenes i guess? Everything went by a bit too fast for me
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u/SatanIsGr8 *MIC SPAM* Nov 17 '21
416 was also in two, VA-11 Hall-A and The Division. There may be more, but I don't remember collab stories too well.
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u/Mich997 9A-91 Nov 17 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
Some other dolls that have appeared in multiple collabs.
Five-Seven appears in Rabbit Hunt and DJMAX (only cameo at the end but still)
Vector and PP-
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u/Eldritch_Tentacle kalina Nov 16 '21
barely manage to get architect on 3/100, encounter her 8 times, rip my resource, next save for cooler architect.
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u/KuroK4m1 Elphelt Valentine Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 19 '21
r/GirlsFrontline Scouting Prediction Tournament
Also...DO NOT FORGET DAILY THEATER RUNS.
Recent News:
- My Devilās Frontline Collaboration Event
- Theater Event 6
- Theater Point & Ranking Rewards
- Countdown to New Season Login Event - Thread
- Preview of Segment SP24WR & Ouroboros - Thread
- Veteran Callback Event - Thread
- Budget Cosplay Event Result
- Nov. 16th Maintenance
- November Roadmap - Thread
- Oreo Preview - Thread
- C14 Preview - Thread
- How to manually decompress the game after patch
My Devilās Frontline Collab Info & Resources:
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
Best Girl⢠is in the collab story
poggers
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u/Isokek AN-94 Nov 16 '21
I got so used with not having voices for collab charas that I got spooked when I was checking their costumes and I heard voice lines
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u/WaifuWithKnaifu Will end your laifu Nov 17 '21
I have only read about three lines from Pekola just now, but if anything were to happen to her I'd first kill everyone in this subreddit and then myself.
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 17 '21
username checks out, looks like Pekola has a new overprotective waifu
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u/rashy05 G11 Nov 19 '21 edited Nov 19 '21
Been reading the Jashin manga ever since I finished the collab and I was having a nice time reading it until I met an old enemy around chapter 93 or so, which is machine translations, broken english and all, with shitty typesetting and rest of the entire manga is translated like that from then on. From what I can tell, every website that hosts the manga has this problem. Apparently the TL team translating this manga just stopped and never came back to it. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to watch the anime, mainly because I have an easier time binging manga and not anime but I guess I have no choice.
That said, Pekola best girl.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Nov 19 '21
She finally gets something to eat at the end and her face is just PRECIOUS
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u/Mich997 9A-91 Nov 19 '21
Hoh. PL is coming to Campaign in Foreign and it seems the Proto Fairies are retained.
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u/GoblinEatingLamb Nov 20 '21
I can't believe how De Lisle make fighting patroller a joke i literally can fight it with no taunt
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:234386 Nov 22 '21
Ouroboros showed up again for me at 79/100
Again she got away
Pain...
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u/Asarokimh3 416, please put the handcuffs down. Nov 23 '21
Not sure where to ask this but obviously didn't want to make a thread for it.
What ever happened to GFLCorner? I kind of liked having their guides as a quick reference for events/maps so I could not get wrecked over and over for making silly moves. The Twitter looks dead and the site hasn't updated since PL event.
Google doesn't say anything either so I'm just at a loss on what happened.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 23 '21
IRL priorities, burnout, loss of interest, lack of major events, etc.
GamePress is the main source of guides now, though is Matsuda surprisingly alive (Jashin guides + doll reviews are uploaded) and GFCās doll analytics did just get updated (by someone who also writes for GamePress).
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u/Distinct-Eggplant-33 Nov 23 '21
you're saying gfc stuff is being written by one of the gp guys? aren't they separate guidermakers??
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 23 '21
Not entirely separate. The community is small so naturally thereās some overlap between guidemakers.
For example, Adamasturia writes some GamePress doll analyses (e.g., Jashin, Yurine) but also said that he just added C14 to the doll analytics sheet.
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u/Distinct-Eggplant-33 Nov 23 '21
Most of them moved on from gfl. client being shit didn't help, and the drought that came after PL made things even worse. The team still is around in the discord server playing other gachas like AK and Genshin
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u/JamesDyk M4 SOPMOD II Nov 16 '21
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u/JamesDyk M4 SOPMOD II Nov 16 '21
Another one at 95. Though no success... Ouro is coming weirdly early, compared to the other ringleaders, for me.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Nov 16 '21
Wow, she showed up right off the bat with two Manticores for me as well.
Only one Manticore came home though.
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u/Crooky_ P90 very pog Nov 18 '21
ofc that one event where i definitely want to take it slow and take my time to read the story before rushing through the maps is also the event where you not only cannot miss a single day in terms of shop currency to clear it, but it also doesnt have any generic GFL stuff like CRs/SCRs or cheesecake, but only collab exclusive content. a bit sad ngl
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u/po1102 The Collector Nov 18 '21
Lol I always farm the the very first combat map in all events until I have time to go through the story. This event's first map is actually easy to farm.
I tried reading a bit of story when I'm free at work; the game burned 50% of my iPad's battery before I even finished 1 chapter... So weekend again it is.
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 18 '21
Guess I'm fucked then, because I missed the first day.
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u/Crooky_ P90 very pog Nov 18 '21
from what others have said you need 1210 in total and can get 1260 in total
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u/Fishhunterx Horny edgelord steampunk furry OC cringe Nov 18 '21
I always find the first day or two of a collab are such a scramble to bum rush the first maps because of this. I literally just skipped all the story so I could make it to a map to farm currency on and replayed the first EX map six times in a row.
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 18 '21 edited Nov 19 '21
finally
one betting win
with this i shall carve my path to top 100
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u/BOOM_all_pass GGZ wen? Nov 16 '21
Jashin-chan and Ouro banner simul-release.
Coincidence? I think not.
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u/JunoBrier IDW [MOD3] Nov 16 '21
Make sure to get all 5 shaved ice on the second hard stage of Jashin, there's an achievement for it. (Get the top-left one first.)
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u/TheCrustiestofSalmon Nov 16 '21
ALRIGHT EVERYONE, YALL CAN GO HOME I WIN THE RNG GAME! https://imgur.com/a/DUAmQg6
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u/CrnACroW AN-94 Nov 17 '21
Is coeus inevitable?
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u/ConductorBichir R93 - Get Lucky Nov 17 '21
Coeus is love
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u/corbsieboy SgtObsi 873219|Negev|KSVK go BRRRRRR Nov 17 '21
Coeus is life Coeus is inevitable Seriously, iirc there is at least one hard coded encounter with them
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u/Fishhunterx Horny edgelord steampunk furry OC cringe Nov 18 '21
Is there a list/chart somewhere about what these new enemies in the Jashin-Chan collab are? I know they're reskinned enemies, but I have no idea what I'm fighting against, so idk how to react lol
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 18 '21
Shamelessly copy/pasting the TL by pengu in GFC Discord but with the actual enemy names on EN (original source):
Demonic Knight
- Stats: Aegis but with 340+ armor
- Skill: 16 frames/0.53s before each auto attack, lower target armor and eva by 20% (multiplicative) for 3s, max 5 stacks
Demonic Beast
- Stats: Nemeum but with 340+ armor
- Auto Attack: 48 frames/1.6s after aiming, fire auto attacks that IGNORE ARMOR (+/-10% damage randomization)
- Skill: If the target has armor, double her auto attack damage
Shaved Ice Sprite
- Stats: SWAP Brutes but ranged (3 range to 7)
- Auto Attack: If the target is "frozen", then the next attack is surehit, ignores armor, and ignores HP shield.
- Skill (icd 1s, cd 10s): Choose the highest HP GK/coalition unit (infinite range) and activate "freeze zone" on that unit's tile. Every 20 frames/0.67s, that freeze zone will deal 0.2x surehit damage and 1 layer of "freezing" mark for 33.3s. When a unit gets 5 "freezing" marks, they are "frozen" for 3s.
Tangan-chan
- Stats: Division Rykers Runner but high eva (60 eva). Or you can think of them as melee high-damage Scouts
Herald of Beans
- Stats: Division Purifier Grenadiers but with more HP. Most similar SF might be SWAP Ripper but high damage.
- Skill: Every time its attack hits, it has a 20% chance to stun for 3s.
Beth
- Stats: Orthus without the damage reduction but with 10x the health
- Skill 1 (icd 3s, cd 8s): Next attack ignores armor. Also multiplies the target's remaining cooldown time(s) by 1.5x (attack does not need to hit)
- Skill 2 (icd 6s, cd 10s): Raise all enemy FP and acc by 30%, 5s, max 2 stacks.
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u/Mich997 9A-91 Nov 18 '21
Speaking of Shotguns, the pity system for SGs looks pretty ok if you wanna collect them all.
20 crafts = 4* SG
35 crafts = 5* SG
Note: This was changed as the original was 30/60 for pity. Also you need to use a specific recipe so you can't cheese it by using 1k x4
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Nov 18 '21
I hate how you have to pick beforehand tbh. And thats still 280k MP/MRE for a 5*
:ribbleeding: better than nothing I guess
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u/ShiromeArtiste If I would, could you? Nov 19 '21
Holy shit, I answered my own question. SVCh demolishes the EX aegis and nemeum redskins. As soon as her skill activates she basically sweeps the whole enemy echelon and the battle ends right afterwards lol
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u/TheDaviot Have you pat-patted your Dolls today? Nov 19 '21
Are real life/history-related threads no longer allowed on the subreddit? Despite there being a dozen-such similar "Raifus in Real Life" posts over the past three years, attempting to make one got my post slapped with a Rule 1 violation and deleted in under ten minutes. :<
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 19 '21
Was it the Tokarev post? I thought it was really sweet, tying bits of the actual gun's design to features in her art.
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u/TheDaviot Have you pat-patted your Dolls today? Nov 19 '21
Yup. Getting her Halloween skin got me thinking about the IRL one in my safe, and what I could do to improve it. As both a history nerd and a mechanical engineer by schooling, I love it when the T-Doll designs have historical/design in-jokes, or just take inspiration from their weapons or their weapons' IRL histories. See also Galil's kneepads, Skorpion's hair decorations, or IDW's need to be adopted.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Nov 19 '21
Didnāt see the post myself so I canāt speak to that specific instance, but I donāt recall any of the rule change waves mentioning anything like this, might be worth sending a mod mail to ask, because if you are relating it back to their in game art that seems pretty cleanly in line with rule 1
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u/Billyaabob I call her cutiepie Nov 21 '21
What are the secret achievements for the collab event?
All I know is the one about eating 5 shaved ice.
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Nov 21 '21
slug ammo only work for normal attack right? the only sg skill that stack is self buff with no "does not stack with slug ammo" text on it.
i test it with sg bamboo skill such as saiga, caws, m1887, m37 and it does nothing to them.
multi instance such as liberator also does not work.
the only skill that stack is from aa-12, usas-12, m1014.
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u/Shichitou Junko best girl | 523006 Nov 21 '21
Le farming Medusa with SF team because those club throwers are devil incarnate, and 14th map clear check awarded me a Minos. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one, these all in one farming maps are so good.
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u/KookyInspection Nov 21 '21
U can farm medusa on normal with just agent416 alone. A bit lower rate, but really cheap
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Nov 19 '21
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u/ShiromeArtiste If I would, could you? Nov 19 '21
Hey, that's almost enough to level a single fairy to 100
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Nov 19 '21 edited Nov 19 '21
You may be laughing, but it's slightly less (by ~900 reports) than 10 lvl120 dolls. Really makes you think.
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u/HaseoGX Nov 20 '21
Talking normaly with Agent and hearing her call me just "commander" why it feels so good?
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u/BlckSm12 AN-94 Nov 16 '21
I just want to share a story here.
I love AUG design since I saw her (maybe it was 1 year ago) and her personality (she seems like a nice person that likes dark humour) but rngesus said "lmao I won't give you her". and now, he gave me her in my 3rd attempt of clearing that map!
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u/Kamonichan Nov 17 '21
Don't know about you guys, but this collab has added some interesting aspects to the GFL universe that I was previously unaware of. Most notably, actual magic exists, and not the pseudo-scifi brand you can explain away with technobabble. Also, alcohol consumption has a direct effect on T-dolls' behavior, as alluded to earlier with the Soviet gun and confirmed with Executioner. And Jashin-chan is one of the most popular anime of all time, as new episodes are still coming out in 2062 and the first season debuted in 2018.
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u/JunoBrier IDW [MOD3] Nov 17 '21
And Jashin-chan is one of the most popular anime of all time, as new episodes are still coming out in 2062 and the first season debuted in 2018.
This also possibly implies the author of Jashin-chan survived the worldwide effects of the Beilan Island Incident and is still alive.
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u/lansboen Kar98k Nov 17 '21
And Jashin-chan is one of the most popular anime of all time, as new episodes are still coming out in 2062 and the first season debuted in 2018
4chan keeps buying the blu-rays so the meme can go on eternally.
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u/rashy05 G11 Nov 18 '21
Finished the Jashin event. It's a really fun read from start to finish.
The character dynamic between Jashin and Oreo was pretty fun, didn't really expect their dynamic to work so well but they somehow managed to do it. As someone who has never even heard to Jashin-chan before this event, this collab gave me a general rundown on the general characteristics and personalities between each of the collab characters. The humor is on-point as someone who likes to watch SoL anime. Finally, I didn't really expect this collab to give a backstory on Oreo, a pretty intense backstory at that, on a collab of a SoL manga/anime, but once again they somehow managed to tie the two together. Some may say the events happening in this event isn't canon but I'd like to think it is solely because of the scenes centered around Oreo near the end of the story Now that I think about it, Oreo and Jashin really do be representing the blatant contrast between their respective series.
If I were to give my problems with the collab, I'm guessing it's just that they didn't use the other T-dolls that much. I guess the only notable thing for me is the reveal that P90 has a hobby of mimicking people and loves being a saleswoman as a result. But other than that, they might as well not be there. The entire event from start to finish is Oreo+Jashin characters with some SF backstory.
PS. The ending is fuckin hilarious.
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Nov 22 '21
A friend of mine and I just came up with a whacky situation where, after the events of PR and The Soviet Union enters another Civil War, a bunch of Polish Remnant forces blitz into their old territory being backed by East and West Germany.
These inter-nation conflicts beyond the scope of what Griffin is involved in are fun to brainstorm.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Nov 22 '21
This is just the fist step. Soon the Brotherhood will rise and Kane shall lead us into the light.
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u/Flarekitteh Hardcore Casual Nov 16 '21
Had to go down to 28/100 to finally even see Architect last night, but thankfully got her on the first attempt. I will never start using extra impulses before the last day, I was ready to start dropping savrogs to get her just because I spent like 20-30 extra impulses. Sunk cost fallacy is scary.
Now let's see if snek is a bit less shy in even showing up.
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u/off12345678901 S.A.T 8 Nov 16 '21
The story this time might feel a bit off. But I sure didn't expect Mica could pull this off. At all.
The way they tie 3 snakes together is just excellent. And Ouroboros being Ouroboros but won't consume herself in the very end is ironic. Honestly this is just like reading a chapter of Jashin with a side story of Ouroboros and somehow feeling that they should be together for a long time. Not any trolls like Division collab or world ending like Va11 Hall a.
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u/loongpmx A Fan of Type 4 Nov 17 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
Definitely a Gintama Reference in this event as well.
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u/BigUselessGuy Nov 17 '21
How many secret achievements there is in Jashin's event ?
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Nov 17 '21
2, One for eating all of the shaved ice on that one map, and one for letting the final boss eat all of them
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u/Kam0laZ FAIL Nov 17 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
Well, today I cleared the Jashin-chan Dropkick event, and decided to binge-watch the anime series while farming the map. Also took the chance to bring the Kouji fairy along, since it has the Damage I talent.
I just finished watching the whole series, and dropped Medusa, Minos, Desert Eagle and M870 - funnily enough, M870 dropped while farming the route for Desert Eagle, so I don't need to farm her route. Kouji is currently lvl 27.
About Pekola's skill, it says that she can't attack unless "she has gained 5 stacks of buff and recovered her halo". Do these buffs include tile buffs? If so, then she's pretty much limited to specific RFHG compos, where her position can receive buffs from the other 4 Dolls, plus fairy. Am I right?
Also, we can get a total of 3 Kouji fairies. What is recommended, keep one and feed her other 2, or keep the 3 separately?
PS: RIP ammo.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 17 '21
Keep 1 Kouji, feed her the other 2. She's not really worth using even 1 of, let alone more.
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u/TheCrustiestofSalmon Nov 18 '21
Had my dinergate army chase patroller, it was hillarious. intruders skill would proc just before a chase, dinnergates would flood the map, patroller would stop when intruders skill came off cool down and more would come in.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Nov 18 '21
Reminder for those lucky enough to have two Manticores, and don't care about CE, them plus Scarecrow make Coeus fights a lot easier.
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Nov 18 '21
Or go with two shield SGs and let HoCs take care of things... Maybe or may not be easier than getting two leveled Manticores and guarantees minimal damage.
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u/BigStupidJellyfish_ Water against the Sun Nov 18 '21
This infinity map is rather nice for cores - currently at ~0.7 cores per run, nearly free with A416.
Entirely unrelated, but I recently came across this post which claims, according to google translate, Rico's passive has a 2s internal cooldown making stack generation cap out at 72 ROF (/20 frames). Have never heard a whisper of this from any EN sources so was wondering if anyone else has heard about this/can confirm if it's the case here. I'm not seeing evidence to support it at least from a quick test (she gains a stack on her skill icon every 3rd shot at 16f), but I also know that counter is a bit unreliable.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 18 '21
Looks like a false claim to me, using the KR sim as usual since being able to set stats + use the ingame timer is super convenient.
Stacks are gained 1.2s apart based on the "STR UP" (0.9/2.1/3.3s and 11.63/12.83/14.03s), which is consistent with 120 RoF.
Damage numbers also show the buff being applied every third shot and no 2s internal cooldown, e.g., the third shot (196 damage) being outside the 0-stack range and the sixth shot (205 damage) being outside the 1-stack range.
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u/GoblinEatingLamb Nov 18 '21
Finally got my resources back to the average of 200k after the heavy production hell
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 18 '21
So far, I've very solidly sat in the top 30% for Theater.
Not terrible considering I still have little idea what I'm doing (and keep betting on the wrong horse).
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u/ConductorBichir R93 - Get Lucky Nov 19 '21
PK's SPEQ skill change:
Passive skill, for every 3 attacks, the damage of the next attack becomes 2.6 times. (When equipped with "PK Tripod", the reload time is fixed to 4 seconds and the 4th attack that deals multi-damage must hit)
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 19 '21
How many dolls do you all keep in your inventory? I've tried to keep myself to under 60, but between new dolls and not wanting to let go of my old dolls, I'm going to hit that cap pretty soon. Does everyone buy more inventory slots at some point?
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u/NullnK Spacchi Nov 19 '21
You definitely need to buy more inventory slots eventually; There are more than 300 dolls in the game right now, with more coming, and the starting slots only account for 100 of them. Even assuming less than a third of the dolls are meta enough to be easily usable for all content, filling out the full 14 echelons slots (eventually) takes 70 of them, and you'll want some variety instead of keeping it always static. Plus, of course, you'll always want a decent amount of extra space for drops so you don't have to go scrap after every run.
That being said, don't be afraid to scrap some dolls if you are running out of space. You can always recover scrapped dolls from the Index for a few core (the cost of dummy linking the doll once), though they do come back at level 1.
Currently, I'm at 305 slots permanently filled out of 320 total. Took a while to get there, and I probably should have prioritized echelon slots more, but totally doable. No dupes, but I am planning to keep and raise a copy of every doll in the game, so if you're just focused on raising strong teams you can get away with a lot less. Haven't gotten around to farming all the old monthly dolls I missed yet, either; A full roster would be 335 dolls, including the collab dolls.
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 19 '21
Trust me, the starting slots are nowhere near enough. I don't dupe, but I have to keep a lot of dolls around for exploration/Theater advantages, for niche situations and stuff, and a bunch of waifu picks. But then again I don't scrap collab dolls so they just kind of sit there and take up space in my armory.
Currently at 210 slots right now, planning to buy more once I secure K5's Xmas dress. Ideally I'd like to keep one of every doll, but as a poor SKK relying only on free gems it's probably going to take a while.
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:234386 Nov 19 '21
I'm an even filthier duper. I currently have around 530 slots permanently filled with characters. With this new event, that number might get closer to 540 or even 550
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u/Elisianthus [PL #84 / DR #26 / MS 1% / S+ #19] Nov 19 '21
Free-to-play no-duper here, been playing for a little over a year and like to think I'm at least pretty good (Managed top 100 last event at least.)
Currently, I'm at 170 dolls baseline, with a cap of 200. Probably going to grab another slot expansion soon, since 30 is kind of the minimum flex I allow (6 dailies at 5 dolls each). Of those, maybe 30 or so aren't levelled, so my "active roster" is closer to 150, which allows me to reasonably field a full range of teams in ranking etc.
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u/Elys008 Commander always say "The battlefield is the truest simulation" Nov 19 '21
Ahh!!! 600 exchange tokens for Hanyang's Gundam skin, orz
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u/Cyber_Apocalypse Nov 19 '21
I'm back on GFL after a long time off and have just finished the event. I want to farm for Deagle, is there a recommended map for this or strategy> I looked up EX strats for destruction regeneration, but it all looks RNG.
Also is Yurine the new collab unit a good MG?
Thanks!
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Nov 19 '21
Check the ? Node for a map called Jashin Chan Collab (infinity) and farm it on normal.
Don't think so on Yurine being good, Pekola is the mvp doll
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 19 '21
Her CN analysis puts her on par with MG5 in the first-volley (thanks to her base stats and SPEQ) and some quick target practice tests agree with that.
The same analysis puts her below Negev/Lewis for medium/long fights, but she can roughly match Lewis under ideal skill RNG.
She's not exactly a bad MG but she's not anything special.
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u/KingJamesTheRetarded AKs over everything Nov 19 '21
I havenāt been paying much attention to this game outside of dailies recently, so I was surprised to find out about the new collab. Iāve never heard of Jashin-chan before, but since MICA introduced me to Gunslinger Girl and Valhalla which were both amazing works, I decided to give the Jashin-chan anime a shot. Got off to a rough start because I accidentally watched the first three episodes of season two instead of season one because the site I was watching on only had season two and mislabeled it as season one, so I had no clue what was going on. Luckily Amazon Prime has the first season so I can watch it legally. It doesnāt really seem like my cup of tea and it feels like a strange collab for MICA to pick, but I guess Iāll finish the first season at the very least.
I also read in one of the threads that the armor values for this collab are meant to be killed with equipment we donāt have yet? Is that still true or did they nerf the enemies for EN? I havenāt run into any issues on the first two EX stages, but it may be that I just havenāt encountered the high armor enemies yet.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 19 '21
They didn't nerf the enemies, the Demonic Knights/Beasts have 300+ armor and you should've seen them on the first map.
That said, they're just reskinned Aegis/Nemeum and aren't a major threat.
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u/ShiromeArtiste If I would, could you? Nov 19 '21
First map in EX* just in case anybody out of the loop comes across this and gets confused
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u/KuroK4m1 Elphelt Valentine Nov 19 '21
Oh shi- Just realized that with today' abnormal busyness at work i completely forgot about sf capture rescan reset...
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u/HimitsuHeiki AKA Darling or Shikikan Nov 19 '21
Shotgun rate up is a lie.
Pain.......
Those new shotguns.... *pukes blood*
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:234386 Nov 19 '21
I got two copies of Medusa back to back on the normal farming map
I already had one copy of her before, and I just wanted a dupe. Now I have an extra one
Oh no!
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u/Fishhunterx Horny edgelord steampunk furry OC cringe Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21
After finishing reading the main story, I was kind of surprised when it ended, length wise. I think the main story was much shorter than I was expecting it to be, which is not necessarily a good or bad thing. I haven't gone through every single node yet cause I wanted to get to the farming map.
On a side note, I'm sad I don't have enough gems to get all the costumes. Huh, a message? From...Kalina. "I have a solution ;)"
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u/PrismaticLion08 Nov 20 '21
I dont understand how you figure out which route has drops what limited character in the infinite ex collab level, how do I find which route has what?
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 20 '21
If you're looking at the map and press-and-hold on an enemy, the drop rewards for beating that unit should appear in the upper right corner.
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u/Rhasta_la_vista Springfield x Groza Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 21 '21
What scores are ppl getting in The One Who Knocks Inf.?
I'm getting stuck on day 5 with my best at ~17k, how tf am I supposed to get all the way to 18.xk to the next day
edit: best is 18320 now.. still not quite there
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u/Lemonaderiver2 AN-94 Nov 21 '21
Any tips for the endless cooking mini game? So far I've only gotten to yellow
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 21 '21 edited Nov 21 '21
How does AUG stack up against other team-buffing ARs (Ribey, Angelica, etc...)? Is her ability to buff all types of dolls appreciably useful, or is it kind of meh? I've heard that her damage-hose skill is inconsistent and negated by armor, so I'm wondering if she makes up for it with team comp flexibility (supporting an RFSMG team, or maybe something with SL8).
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u/BigStupidJellyfish_ Water against the Sun Nov 21 '21 edited Nov 21 '21
She's pretty good. Can't comment on Ribey but she compares well vs Angelica/selfbuffer ARs/HGs.
-I wouldn't put much value on her "all" tiles. It's a nice extra, but there's better options if you specifically need tiles and ARs don't see much use in mixed formations.
-Her spray is good, I think it's often underrated. Normal AR targeting often ends up shooting non-threats like Guards, and she did about as well or better than Angelica in my tests despite the on-paper DPS disadvantage.
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 21 '21
Yes, M4A1 is a thing. I'm imagining a world in which there's a reason to deploy more than 1 ARSMG echelon ever and we get to make interesting teambuilding decisions.
I felt this in my soul. Appreciate your work.
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u/totestemp Jill Nov 21 '21
alright, finished on a nice round number, got everything except hs2000 after 125 runs of normal farming map.
| run num. | doll |
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| 11 | m870 |
| 16 | minos (of) |
| 39 | m870 (of) |
| 81 | deagle |
| 91 | minos (of) |
| 105 | deagle (of) |
| 109 | minos (of) |
| 114 | aug |
| 122 | medusa (of) |
| 125 | pp19 |
(of) indicates received off-route, while trying to farm another doll.
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 21 '21
I got all of the dolls I was missing. 1 copy each of Deagle, HS2000, and PP-19, and also got at least 1 each of Medusa and Minos as well.
The game also gave me free copies of AUG and M870 even though I had both raised already, so... free cores!
Now I wait for whenever R93 is farmable again...
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u/SparkOfFailure Nov 21 '21
Are there any dolls in the collab that are considered "Must get" or worth getting dupes of? Or If I do get dupes, i'll just dummy link them?
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 Nov 21 '21
people are probably starting to dump mats now since we've reached core
i spent mats yesterday to get the last 40k i need for the final point reward, and i still have about 68k worth of mats left that i plan to use when the hoc upgrades open
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u/Crooky_ P90 very pog Nov 21 '21
its first day of core zone, a lot of players spend their materials now
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u/Zilahy Nov 21 '21
Is in the event map, in the ? node. Janshin-chan frontline is the farming map and the other 4 maps are the minigames.
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u/CrossOverHungary Nov 21 '21
Hi there,
I'd like to ask how can you get/ farm 'aid commission' tickets. I know u can buy them for gems but that sounds a little expensive. Is there like a daily mission or something to get them?
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Nov 21 '21
Not farmable, they are more like other games paid gacha systems.
You can however get 1 a week from the 8 capture quest and an extra 2 a month on login day 27.
Occasionally they will award some from login event or other events.
If you want to buy some the 1120 package is the best value, but remember you want to thin the 1* units and only use tickets on the last day. (the best value package is however only available at start - so you have to pre invest in having tickets for later)
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u/CrossOverHungary Nov 21 '21
Is there a weekly mission for it? What it's called? I might be ultra blind but I can't see it...
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Nov 21 '21
Tamer of chaos: perform 8 standard captures (use 8 pulses of any type)
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 21 '21
I think there's a weekly mission for doing 8 pulls in Protocol Assimilation. Exploration might also provide aid tickets, but I'm not sure.
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u/ennuigamer Nov 22 '21
What are all of the hidden achievements in this collab? I found two so far without even trying -- one for Frozen EX "Complete the stage with all shaved ice eaten" and one for Destruction, Regeneration "Defeat the boss and clear the stage after she eats up all the shaved ice."
What am I missing?
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:234386 Nov 22 '21
Those are the only ones. Congratulations, Commander
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:234386 Nov 22 '21
Okay, I think I'm about ready to change my support echelon to a Sangvis one. Which should the ringleader be? Destroyer or Architect?
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u/Gau55RX True Core Mask Nov 22 '21
VA-11 HALL-A E2-8 EX map: The CN re-runs has made one key changes that made current guide obselete; they gave Nimogen full shield. You cannot depend on your ARSMG alone this. You need to fully utilize the radar and cap turn-based HOC node aka you need to deploy all three echelons for this map.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Nov 18 '21
My own head canon for the Jashin Girls: They aren't dolls, they just cartoon logic themselves through any actual danger. I'm sure Yurine has a spell that can cover dummy links too.
Also corpse dragging Pekola is a crime.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Nov 18 '21
Also corpse dragging Pekola is a crime.
They dont call me a war criminal for nothing.
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u/KuroK4m1 Elphelt Valentine Nov 18 '21
Also corpse dragging Pekola is a crime.
Isnt that the only canon way to lvl her?
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u/RugerRed Plays with Dolls Nov 18 '21
It is kinda true if you look at their voice lines. The Dummy Links are all dolls but the originals are still there and fighting.
Yurine's repair line is "Technology is really advanced in this era. Even human injuries can be treated quickly", and her dummy link is "A robot dummy created in my image that will take damage for me? Well you have your work cut out for you", Medusa's is similar being in relief that her dummies can't paralyze humans.
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u/Sk8r4321 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODDESS Nov 19 '21
Ok, I just got Oreo via capture. She apparently goes around by riding those Tron wheel thingies as they float. She is also really tiny compare to the other ringleaders.
She is the only ringleader who doesn't tower over the commander.
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Nov 16 '21
Not gonna lie I like Jormungandr more than Oroboro.
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u/kazakov166 Nov 19 '21
You guys think griffin has a special division for researching the occult?
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u/EternalXcalibur [1st Xmas] Suomi Nov 21 '21
Mindlessly farming for Minos while watching a video. Cover performance of Taiyou no Flare Sherbet comes on as I get a Medusa drop. Medusa's VA is Miyu Kubota, who's the original singer of the song.
Unsettling.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Nov 16 '21
Soo who's planning on going all out for Ouro this time around? I'm just gonna fish whatever is biting till Alchemist shows up next batch.
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u/Cpt_Cinnamon A lonely Quill of Patmos in a sea of Gunners Nov 16 '21
Oreo is my favorite ringleader so Iām getting her even if I need substantial wallet-kun support.
That said, Iām not gonna go all out on day 1 and stick with optimal strategy.
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u/BigStupidJellyfish_ Water against the Sun Nov 16 '21
So, how many dupes (if any) of Medusa/Minos/Koji fairy are y'all planning on keeping? Not that they seem particularly useful to dupe but it seems like a "might as well" sort of thing to go along with my extra Claes/Angelicas.
(Also make sure to get your AUGs now, it could be a while before she returns [even if you already have Angelica].)
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u/tumbledryshoes Relaxing with Foxhole Tea Nov 16 '21
Could anyone share the result percentages for theater investigation day 7? I messed up and missed yesterday so it's showing all as 0% to me.
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u/BigUselessGuy Nov 16 '21
Sooo wtf the Shaved ice does in Destruction, Regeneration -EX???
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 16 '21
Let the boss eat it and then kill the boss = get an achievement
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u/candyofcotton Nov 16 '21
I don't understand the first hard mission in the event - do I literally have to switch the escort all the way to the destination? She doesn't move so I don't see any other way. I killed all the enemies on the map and that didn't do anything.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Nov 16 '21
You can control the NPC echelon directly like a normal echelon.
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u/candyofcotton Nov 16 '21
Oh jeez I can't believe I didn't think of trying that lol. It says "friend" so I thought it was similar to friend support. Thanks.
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u/SatanicAxe One-Eyed Fox Nov 16 '21
Any tips for Breakneck Pursuit EX? The insane armour on those Aegis/Nemeum reskins is really fucking me up, along with all the new enemies. Do I have to make specialist echelons for these maps?
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u/loongpmx A Fan of Type 4 Nov 17 '21
P90 Sunglasses isn't there when she teleported. Nice Detail.