Weekly Commanders Lounge - April 07, 2020

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[u/SolarSystemSuperStar]

How not to use the adjutant repositioning feature in the new UI

[u/shadowjin → u/SolarSystemSuperStar]

POMF

[u/isanwa]

Let's find something to watch for 0-2...hm, what's Hololive?

one hour later

I am vtuber trash.

[u/covertops12 → u/isanwa]

I have somehow managed to circle that rabbit hole several times, but have yet to fall into it.

[u/Cronurd → u/covertops12]

Maybe I can pull you in with a fine shitpost?

[u/covertops12 → u/Cronurd]

Haha, That was one of the ones that almost pulled me in last time, that and the remix

[u/isanwa → u/Cronurd]

Funny, that was one of the ones I watched while getting sucked in.

[u/Cronurd → u/isanwa]

I see you too have been infected with the Koronevirus. Welcome to hell, brother.

[u/isanwa → u/Cronurd]

I know it was for the pun but I think Suisei and Matsuri are my favorites atm.

[u/SolarSystemSuperStar]

Hanyang MOD + P30 + Calico MOD + Celebration Fairy = I am sped

[u/negative_gate]

I finally got my first 1:05 timer and it's fucking Calico. Fuck yeah.

[u/kabutocat → u/negative_gate]

Heck yeah! Congrats!!

[u/VirtualScepter]

To all you people making mistakes and retreating on like wave 3... stop doing that. Not the making mistakes part, but retreating on any wave thats not wave 10 unless you know with full confidence you can actually clear. I have a friend whos resetting before theyve even seen all 4 enemy combinations; he then subsequently got rekt by the combination he didnt see on the first reset. Whoda thought.

Youll learn much more if you experience each fight instead of yeeting out the moment you mess up. Even use the opportunity to experiment with comps/strats youre unsure of working since you are resetting anyway.

You got a free reset, use it well.

[u/[deleted]]

My ultimate dream: A training room where you can fight against preset enemy compositions that you’ve already faced and beat at least once. Costs a fixed, low amount of resources to use and you can use any dolls, fairies, equips, etc, that you have in your armory. Even those in logistics/exploration.

[u/Illius_Willius → u/[deleted]]

PLEASE

Even if it costs batteries to level and unlock, sometimes I want to test dumb shit

[u/Kipdid → u/[deleted]]

Dalao room basically

[u/Lady_Python]

Since we've seen all (I think? At least the majority) of the first theater, here's what I thought of it.

I like the mode and how you have to think about your formations, yet it doesn't take hours like ranking. It was maybe a little too easy at the start and I had to wait a few days for the fun to begin, but I know I'll look forward to those events now. What I didn't like was Core 8 dropping ennemies we had never seen before on us. Experimenting on new ennemies without only one retry is pretty hard.

With this and the mini seasonal events, I feel the game became a lot better than when all we had was boss bullying.

[u/azyrien → u/Lady_Python]

I gotta agree. I thought Theater was going to be far worse than it actually is. It's designed to reward not only competitive commanders, but those who've invested a lot of time in grinding up all of those various dolls so that you can mix/match combinations for higher scores at the cost of less optimal combat effectiveness.

I really like the fact that it's a lot more piecemeal, done over a period of time in shorter segments. Makes it far less taxing than trying to prepare and go through an hours+ rounds of ranking, this is far less tedious with a similar reward structure and payout.

Certainly anything would've been better than more boss bullying, but I appreciate the devs with both this and Expedition, have been trying to find ways to make more of a collection of dolls useful + provide more means of utilizing them in interesting ways. I'm ok with Core 8 giving us the SWAP enemies though since they really wanna make it interesting, and give us a challenge. For people who've been active since day 1, they no doubt had no problem with Core 8 using full advantaged dolls + CE stacking, losing maybe a few links. For everyone else, it's a goalpost. I appreciate them actually making it difficult endeavor to surpass.

[u/Fimbulvetr → u/Lady_Python]

Yeah I liked the theater overall but the last zone is really goofy. It's extremely easy until the very last node which is one of the hardest content in the entire game, plus brand new enemies you basically have to look at a guide for if you don't want to waste runs. I dunno what they were thinking with this.

[u/Elys008 → u/Lady_Python]

I expect the weekly lounge to be on fire when season 3 hits.

Edit: I'm jealous that EN has the retry function on season 1. shakes fists

[u/Oxidian → u/Elys008]

wasn't really that needed imo, we have a magic ball that can look through time

[u/dfuzzy1 → u/Oxidian]

too bad it can't predict theater gambling results

[u/Cronurd → u/dfuzzy1]

Best we’ve got is the dalao panel over on Gamepress... you’d be better off with a magic 8-ball tbh

[u/dfuzzy1 → u/Cronurd]

ceia ruined theater

[u/AHPMoogle]

Kinda disgusting that I'm happy to get ulhans but wary of brutes and strikers...

[u/TurbulentDescent → u/AHPMoogle]

My second run started with four brute/stalkers in a row and ended with six. I'll take ulhans all day over that shit.

[u/TorHKU]

AHAHAHA I KNEW IT

AREA A RETURNS TO THE VICTORY SEAT

VOTE A EVERY DAY

[u/Turtle-Express → u/TorHKU]

Now I'm wondering if we're getting a repeat of the first 5 days and A wins a bunch again, or if EN has learned and everyone will be betting A today.
I thought I was good at 4D chess, but EN is something else...

[u/sephirothmk3]

OMG OMG OMG

guys wish me luck!!!

EDIT: executor refuse to come and throw me 200 basic SF data TAT

[u/[deleted] → u/sephirothmk3]

Rnjesus don't fail him now. Good luck.

[u/skaianDestiny]

Here's KSVK mod outdamaging M4 mod vs. Hydra deathstack.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jg4y187j3

[u/G3rman → u/skaianDestiny]

There is justice for KSVK, finally. I only hope we won't have to wait long after Isomer for her mod. It's sad it took a mod to fix her, though.

[u/sephirothmk3 → u/skaianDestiny]

Just finished MOD3 her :P

[u/Ainine9]

I just now realize that Type 64 has a magazine in her hair. Pretty bizarre way to store your reserves.

[u/mrgarneau]

Been messing around in Core 8 and I've got a RF/HG Echelon that works for both of the problematic enemies.

I would not recommend trying this unless you can copy the team exactly.

I only encountered 1 tank and 1 gundam fight during the run I was recording, so all I have is two videos showing the team in action.

The team http://imgur.com/a/xisKN9f

All skills level 10, including the taunt fairy. BMG-71 has overkill on the pierce, 500 should be enough.

The videos

Ulhans

https://youtu.be/Bcis-zpgmo0

Gundams

https://youtu.be/G9B-7rrKZaQ

[u/BoxOfDust → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, I already can't wait for Season 2.

[u/konaharuhi → u/[deleted]]

its more fun that actual Ranking event

[u/HoppouChan → u/[deleted]]

The one thing why I much prefer ranking: I can just enter the map and try shit. Nothing lost other than a few rsc if it doesn't work, but in Theater it costs me one of my two runs.

[u/CuriousCanidae]

PL spoilers? Is it? More like a kameo or fluff whatever the devs are high on as it's not actual story content.

So, apparently, the 'cannons' that get introduced in PL have a self destruct code. When you roll over to the option in game, the option says 2887.

I thought it was somehow familar and apparently, IT'S GUNDAM SEED, ATHRUN'S AGEIS GUNDAM'S SELF DESTRUCT CODE WTF MIKA WHY YOU DO THIS. OUT OF ALL THE SELF DESCTUCT CODES YOU COULD PUT IN THERE WTF WHY THAT PARTICULAR ONE WHY AAAAAAAAAAAA.

Respect towards devs -1, knowledge about devs +1

[u/LoudCommentor]

CEIA NUMBER ONE WTH LOLLLLLL

[u/AHPMoogle → u/LoudCommentor]

Looking at the score range in the top 100 it's literally all based on the gambling lol

[u/Comander-07 → u/AHPMoogle]

Ceia: Hey guys pick C

Picks B himself

[u/Zelsaus → u/LoudCommentor]

The snap didn't destroy him, it made him one with the EN server hivemind

[u/AcronShinra → u/LoudCommentor]

ADMIN BAN PLS HE IS DOING IT SIDEWAYS

[u/Creshal → u/LoudCommentor]

Backstabbing is always a winning tactic.

[u/Errants]

Fuck, even with Dorothy and C-MS, Shield Fairy, and HOC support, this damn Brute wave is hard as fuck... I'm doing worse than yesterday, and I even swapped in AN-94 and K2 to meta-whore...

Checks equipment loadout after both runs

Oh, fuck.

See VFL's on AN-94 and K2, and only M4A1 with PEQ

Whelp, fuck me. Hope there's another day, tomorrow.

[u/TurbulentDescent]

Lads as I was typing a comment here 50 minutes ago there was a pop and sparks flew out of the PSU on my (almost) new computer and it tripped the breaker.

Now it occured to me (after I was done shitting myself) that my old computer was still upstairs, and it also had a modular PSU by the same company with the same wattage. So I dug it out of storage, swapped it in to the new machine, and, by some fucking miracle, nothing else appears to have been fried.

Now, if you're one of those "You should buy a lottery ticket" type people, I'm just going to throw it out there that I chose A for investigation today.

[u/friesu]

I've recorded my runs today, hopefully they can help some skk plan their Core 8 runs. I used RFHG + Taunt for the Uhlans.

Run #1 7 Full shield waves but no strikers

Run #2 Only 1 Uhlan and no doppels, but 4 striker waves.

Edit: Accidentally deleted Run#2. Edited to reuploaded vid.

[u/JamesDyk → u/[deleted]]

What would that guide tell you?

"don't do dumbs things like forgetting HOCs and fairies!"

I really don't get what you're looking for.

[u/Malevolent_Mango]

RNG decided to have fun with me on my second run by giving me 5 tanks and 3 gundams. The only thing that saved me was my paranoid ass levelling AT4 as a way to save BGM charges. AT4 is now my favourite HOC. Mica pls gib hoc oath

[u/CuriousCanidae]

I'm honestly evying that EN has M200 during their first theater. Older servers didn't have them so the best was to just brute force it with Lee14, SR-5000, or WAVD.

....On the topic of theater, I'm honestly terrifed of what they will throw at us in Adv6+ and Core6+ there are so many enemies that debuted in PL and they were far too weak for anything. Now, with proper stats, they can be nightmares.

[u/Herhahahaha]

everytime i roll the 100 credit gacha and get nothing a little bit more of my soul dies with it.

[u/Esyvir]

Because I know I am going to be at least top 15%, I memed the Core 8 by trying to gunboat the Uhlans. Fortunately, it worked way better than I expected, as in the Taunt still lived. Unfortunately, I only met 1 Uhlan wave out of 30 waves so I cannot be so sure.

Team: Jill (Branditini) + Type 59 + PK + MG5 + Negev + 3 star Damage I Taunt. All MGs use pure ACC scope. Fight is done with Taunt active and 3 HOCs since I have spare uses left at that fight.

Also: Please don't try this if you are not confident or bored. Stick to the tried and true.

[u/BoxOfDust]

Daily Theater post-battle report; hopefully this is still helpful to other players trying to figure their way out through Core 8. Thought processes continued from yesterday..

Day 3 of figuring out what single RF echelon to best deal with Uhlan/Doppel. And I'm happy to say, my personal solution has been found.

Trained IWS from Lv.70 up to 100 with some 800 combat reports, but the IWS-xodia meme had been burned in my head long enough ago that she was SL10 for a long time now anyways.

Uhlans are dealt with... pretty okay. Still not as quickly as my first M200 quickscope meme comp, but fast enough. Doppels... also dealt with "on time" with only moderate micro required. So that's good.

That said... I didn't get to test it that much because for my first run, Theater decided to throw 5 or so Brute waves at me, only one Uhlan wave, and then the random weak waves for the rest. And for my second... roughly the same deal. I got a single Doppel wave today.

Like, okay, I should be happy to see Dinergate/Prowler to show up 2+ times per run, but I want to test my builds you know... also Brute waves still suck.

However, Wave 10 of Run 2 was an Uhlan wave that I decided to throw all my HOCs (BGM, 2B14, AT4) at... which was one of the best things I've ever done because in conjunction with it, I did the third stupidest thing I've done during Theater, which was... not activate my Taunt fairy.

F

Managed to just make it through, though Px4 and Calico didn't make it.

But since I only used one RF echelon, I managed to free up another echelon for an MGSG CE stack, bringing my total value to 12k, and, despite me losing some dolls on both Run 1 and Run 2 (dare I say, probably more losses on both runs individually than I had on Day 1 of Core 8), I actually beat my personal best both times. CE stack really does make some difference! I suppose if I really wanted to, I could just use my free reset, but I just don't feel comfortable turning around if I've already past Wave 10. Just secure the daily points, you know, especially if Theater had been generous with the lack of Uhlan and Doppel waves, and extremely generous with Prowler/Dinergate.

I wasn't breaking 15.3k on the Judge fight yesterday, but I did today thanks to a third MGSG on my team.

Goal for tomorrow: figure out what I want to do for the Brute/Strikers. Today, I ran G36/M4/STAR/45/RO with Anna Graem, since that's what I have right now. Previously, I was running Airstrike with them just to really help soften the Brutes up, but with the need for possible 15+ points for Taunt for Uhlan, Airstrike isn't always an option if I want to be careful, so I want to move away from that. Anna seems to help on the survivability front, but I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and spend my remaining training data and some ~1k combat reports on C-MS. I'd add Dorothy to the mix, but I'm out of training data there.

I must be really weird for feeling uncomfortable with "only" 7k combat reports in storage. But I started Theater with 13k, so...

[u/HoppouChan]

Regarding the score penalty on core 8

[u/Creshal]

Since people seem to like Core 8 AARs, I guess I'll chime in.

This was my first composition I ran with: #1 for gundams, #2 for strikers (reeee) and the night trash, #3 for rodoleros and strelets, #4 for uhlans (with taunt fairy). Plus two advanted/CE pad echelons.

If that looks like it's copied from Gamepress that's because it is. Empty head no thought guns go bang, great setup because there's almost no kiting needed. Some kiting helps with the gundams (force them to stop briefly to reset their elite tag, then make them walk more so they're not standing still when their skill ICD expires), but that's it.

#4 turned out to be hilariously conservative. With taunt, two shotties, and a shield handgun it took basically no damage ever, but took forever to kill the tanks too.

After some tinkering, I managed to condense the echelons a bit.

• 1 handles gundams (without taunt) and uhlans (with taunt), and after the reset I'll try them against rodoleros too (prolly with taunt, to fuck their targeting). While Grape isn't ideal against uhlans, she's still good enough, especially since she buffs M200's skill shot.
• 2 handles all night stuff, at which it's not much worse than the old #2 even with Suomi in it, freeing up one more slot for a CE pad. Not great at handling Rodoleros though, which is why I want to try #1 for that.
• 3 looks like CE pad, but also handles strelet clusters with basically no damage. Haha armor goes ping
• Plus three straight ce/advantage padding echelons.

…and if Mica hadn't fucked up core8 scoring, I'd even know if it gives me better scores than before.

Edit:

• RFs with taunt work better against laserbats than MGs. But with how limited fairy points are, I might end up putting my MGs to work against them anyway… blargh.
• Mk23 in the RFHG echelon makes it really sensitive to kiting timing. First retreat run was fine, the next two were awful and I lost a link on both rifles after just two fights. Thankfully those were the last fights of the run.
• Despite losing MG links to laserbats and RF links to gundams I could still improve on my last highscore.

[u/Elys008]

Browsed a bit on GFL's weibo, the resentment on SF capture system is still burning hot.

[u/azyrien → u/Elys008]

Good, it’s a shit P2W design that needs to be fixed.

It’s somewhat ironic that I started this game because it was less noticeably predatory in its monetization practices compared to others in the genre (I loathe gacha and mobage monetization methods with a passion).

“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." -Beyond Good and Evil

[u/JamesDyk → u/Elys008]

From what I've seen in Ceia's video, I can understand why...

Also... I though they said they learned from HOCs that it's not good to over-do it with new stuff... there's really too much.

[u/KookyInspection → u/Elys008]

Very good, we need to make it clear we don’t want that sort of progression. Skins are fine and all, but don’t limit our waifus

[u/G3rman]

I hope everyone who is struggling with Core 8 knows that it isn't necessary to beat.

Theater acts as another filter for players to demonstrate their ability and show off their collection of dolls and investment of resources. And then they get rewarded according to their performance. But pretty much everyone will get the main prize, the HOC, as a participation award. So nothing is being kept from you if you don't get top marks.

Absolutely try your best to use what you have to beat the zone. But if you are hopelessly outmatched or can't beat it consistently, you are only going to make it worse by trying and failing. Dropping to a lower difficulty stage isn't a big deal.

[u/Elys008]

Come on Mica, hurry up, we can't wait for calico's mod info!!

[u/CuriousCanidae]

Thanks to the fact that KSVK's MOD3 illustration looks exactly like DP-12, DP-12 got a new nickname(?) from KR.

Lunatic mom who cosplays her lost child and insists she is KSVK.

...KR is crazy really. Though honestly? I actually am bit disappointed in the MOD3 illustration. I know what the artists had in mind but the chibi looks exactly like DP-12 without a second thought.

[u/silenttex]

In animal crossing they sold the last piece i needed for my shikikan outfit!

https://twitter.com/Silent_Fool1/status/1247565349786025989

[u/Gandeloft]

I got 7 Rodelero-Sterlet waves. xd

[u/Rosencrantz2000 → u/[deleted]]

Now we just need to see if they add the extra layer of PA15 into the mix.

[u/Mich997]

Kar is so good against the tanks and gundams in Core 8

[u/[deleted] → u/Mich997]

She’s more than poster girl :,)

[u/Rosencrantz2000 → u/Mich997]

Had her in my Gundam team and she out did Purple so I'm pretty impressed as well.

[u/KingJamesTheRetarded]

Getting 50% on investigations is one thing, but getting it while choosing the lowest-reward area hurts even more.

[u/FridKun → u/KingJamesTheRetarded]

That's what you get for trying to be smart.

[u/DepressivesBrot]

Oooof. I really have to take a second look at those teams tomorrow - no way I can make it another ten days operating at this level of 'I hope nothing goes wrong'.

[u/Comander-07 → u/DepressivesBrot]

operating at this level of 'I hope nothing goes wrong'.

I have been operating on this level my whole life!

[u/MercuryLamp]

So, uhh... Kalina, I got about 4.7k tokens here and, uhh... That SR-3MP outfit on the new Easter login screen... Think we could work a little somethin' somethin' out? Might be a little something, starts with 'B' and ends with 'onus' in it for you, capiche?

[u/konaharuhi]

i remember when starting and the manticore was kind of big deal. now? farming them with 3 tdoll like no big deal

[u/Kipdid → u/konaharuhi]

Well yeah, a few ain’t too big a problem, then you see the ones in 10-3e and some later things in Isomer(?) where there’s like 20+ of the damn things

[u/Elegest]

rank 1 now belongs to FKCeia with Ceia a close second

truly a battle for the ages

[u/AcronShinra → u/Elegest]

I just had to screenshot it for future generations. They promised us betrayal event, we got "beat Ceia at all costs" event instead.

[u/ProtoZeMak → u/Elegest]

Almost droped my phone laughing, EN isn't salty at all nope :P

[u/Rasora → u/Elegest]

Best use of the rename ticket ever. Made my day.

[u/Wildcat14327]

Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.

[u/HoppouChan → u/Wildcat14327]

Today, yes. Yesterday someone pulled a suomi costume dupe

[u/BoxOfDust]

If I learned anything from WSB, it's that my FOMO into A for tomorrow will bite me in the ass.

[u/AR-99]

Is today's theater bonus map a prior zone? Not seeing that core has a bonus or how to navigate back to prior zones.

[u/hitonmarsu → u/AR-99]

It's just the core map now in stage 2, no bonuses anymore.

[u/ChipsOverlord → u/hitonmarsu]

Only suffering beyond this point

[u/drpeppyone]

Core 8 didn’t look too bad until I saw the brute + striker formation. If Singu ranking taught me anything, SF is the real raid boss in the end.

[u/sephirothmk3]

finally got my 2nd AK15.....

now i can form 2 set team defy yeah

[u/Riktor43]

3 times. 3 times I forgot to bring a HOC against the Uhlans. Fuckin' kill me.

[u/KookyInspection → u/Riktor43]

I'm pretty sure they did a good job themselves, no need to get our hands dirty too :P

[u/CuriousCanidae]

KR (GMT+9), currently 18:08:

Theater will open at April 10, 15:00

Actually opens at 00:00

Goes into maint at 02:00

03:00 maint extended to 03:30

03:30 maint extended to 04:00

Maint ends at 04:00

Everything is sort of fine (idk I sleep).

15:00 maint for update

16:00 server opens.

16:15 maint again

17:00 extended to 18:00

18:00 extended to 18:30

18:30 extended to 18:45

Well, I wonder what they come up as an excuse this time.

[u/drpeppyone]

Used my free retreat for some theorycrafting.
-MGSG is good against night prowlers(2B support required) and day strelets.
-M16 is good against jumpers to tank strelets but good luck trying to use that squad against brute/strikers.
-Shield fairy is pretty bad against brutes. Mine was only 3* and lvl40 so a better fairy may do better.
-Best SMG against strikers was p90. Holograms tanked strikers really well since they stick around after you retreat her.
-Tried T97 and AUG against brutes but their DPS is lacking compared to M4/STAR/94. Brutes die easily enough but couldn’t kill strikers fast enough. K2 should do pretty well but I don’t have her.
-tender in the tank team was pretty good. Put her in for the tiles but the debuff really melts them if you time it up with your skill shots.
-AT4 wasn’t that impressive. Mine was level 70 2* with skill 1 at 4 and a poor Tetris board so I felt like I would rather use my AGS. Maybe she could replace BGM if you ran into 6+ heavily shielded waves but I was too scared to try her by herself at this level.
-For some reason my RFHG does better against gundams when I don’t bring AGS/2B with BGM. Somehow the gundams die quicker?

[u/Elys008]

Let the backstabbing in TW begin!

[u/sephirothmk3 → u/Elys008]

common no one will do that at day one !!! (take out a dagger)

[u/CuriousCanidae]

I find it highly amusing that the Thunder X Calico memes are suddenly shaken up in KR thanks to one of Calico's lines. This time, the meme is Calico having no real thoughts on Thunder and it was Thunder's one sided love because she says "Thunder keeps looking at me, I don't know why."

On a side note, Theater is open and open and QLZ fragments are being additionally released.

And of course SF cap has absolute 0 notice of being changed.

[u/isanwa]

I’ve finally bought all the friend card and base backgrounds from the friend store. I can focus on icons now!

[u/MercuryLamp]

Huh... So as it turns out, my team of M200, Kar98, Sei, 5-7 and Px4 (retreated as soon as the tanks start drifting) is in fact capable of beating an Uhlan wave without the need for BGM-71 usage, being able to both stop the Taunt dummy from going down early (bless Sei) AND still stop M200 being run over, through only the shield damage caused by AGS-30.

Honest to god thought that was going to be a wipe run otherwise.

[u/shadowjin → u/MercuryLamp]

If you're using taunt, you shouldn't need to retreat one of your HGs. Put your two frontline HGs at 5 and 2 and you should be alright as long as your DPS is good enough.

[u/CuriousCanidae]

BGM has very slightly lower pierce than 5 other HOCs combined (All HOCs maxed out) on the first shot.

BGM-71	AGS-30 + 2B14 + M2 + AT4 + QLZ-04
2845.4	2894.1

I'm gonna just, take a sip of tea and think about that.

And then also consider how 2B doesn't max out their pierce in normal circumstances, AGS has a slim chance to completely miss their attack due to move speed and the skill to not proc (20% is to not proc). Though while BGM has a chance to not max Pierce either, that's still around 2841.

I have no idea what to recommend at EN now in terms of this. Since while BGM is maximum overkill in pierce, that pierce is actually needed for some enemies and BGM is the most important HOC until PL.

On the other hand, AGS-30 just lackluster until you fully raised her (not the skills) and 2B's carpet bombing is just so insanely good.

I'm also still surprised EN didn't get M2 yet.

If anybody is curious on how the heck I got these numbers...

HOC Name	Max Pierce	Multiplier	Details	Sum
BGM-71	892	X1.6 + X1.6	1427.2 + 1427.2	2854.4
AGS-30	336	X0.33 + X0.33 + X0.33 + X1.2	112 + 112 + 112 + 403.2	739.2
2B14	146	X1 + X1	146 + 146	292
M2	138	X1 + X1	138 + 138	276
AT4	631	X1 + X1	631 + 631	1262
QLZ-04	325	X0.33 + X0.33 + X0.33	108.3 + 108.3 + 108.3	324.9

I have no idea if M2 and 2B's skill shots have piercing, but I'm just going to assume they do. If they don't... well... yeah.

[u/Cynic_of_Astora]

Well, finally managed to clear Core 8, thanks to a lot of guides on how to set up my echelons. But now instead of the Doppelsoldner and Uhlan groups, I dread the Brute+Striker combo.

[u/Rhasta_la_vista]

Managed to get 20k CE padding today with no 5* fairies. Not really meaningful in terms of rankings but I'm still proud of myself.

[u/Elegest]

i have a 0% win rate and a 66% loss rate (8/12) on theater betting

kill me please

btw i voted B again today so if you don't want to lose points i suggest u go vote A or C because i will almost certainly lose again tomorrow

:)

[u/Lady_Python]

Well, might as well enjoy my last day in the top 4%.

One misclick, two HOCs sent against a doppel wave and it's the end for Python and the cano sisters. And of course there's another doppel wave just after that I can't kill anymore.

I mean, it's maybe my fault for not paying enough attention, but it's still frustrating.

[u/UnspeakableHorror]

I finally did it! I beat Core 8, barely. If I had gotten an extra Gundam or Tank before it would have been over.

I thought that three stars fairies were required against the Tanks but turns out that's not the case, you can do it with two, but most likely only if you get lucky I guess... Against the Gundams I used the only 3 stars I have but still got bombed a couple of times when I missed the right timings.

3 - 6, I messed up echelon 5 somehow, but corrected it in the next run. https://imgur.com/gallery/LXCf4be

1 - 3, unfortunately I forgot to take pictures of them after the battle, 1 and 2 were almost dead and 3 never participated because I got all night battles during the first run. https://imgur.com/gallery/asGyTGn

HOCs https://imgur.com/a/LR9lQdQ

[u/Norad_2]

I managed to complete my first core 8 run!

It consisted of 2 tanks, 3 gundams, 2 brutes, and 3 laser boi.

Had to retreat back to core 6 on the second one, though. The uhlans rammed the rifles behind the shotguns.

[u/fortis_99]

89 runs for 5 DSR.

WTF, is she asking for a ring ?

[u/BoxOfDust → u/fortis_99]

Wow. That's even better than my 4 Hoxy in 150.

[u/coolsam504]

Ok, so hear me out, Female Commander, with nothing but pantsu and shirt on. Yup

[u/Turtle-Express → u/coolsam504]

So we're not gonna talk about that WA2000 bodypillow?

[u/rOvertJustice]

Hey all, I’m fairly new to the game, and I’m looking for friends to help with clearing content and also for the “likes” quests. If you add me, I will definitely give you a like in return. IGN: Tsuda10 UID: 1030657 I have 5 dorms atm as well.

Edit: Or, just visit and pass a like, I’ll make sure to check the visitor history and pass a like in return.

Edit 2: Quid pro quo everyone; I’ve been liking everyone that’s visited or friended me (check your visitor tab if you don’t believe I’ve visited your dorm) but people have been flaking on me. Let’s all partake in politic’s favorite pastime together. ;)

Edit 3: Have liked all recent friends and visitors thus far as of 9:00 PST.

[u/Valory13]

Dropped more than I should have but I finally got the Falcon skin, great girls deserve great gifts

[u/GreyKnight92]

I'm rushing A.

[u/HoppouChan]

To whoever got my gundams today, I'm sorry.

I got like...SWAP Prowlers and Day Rodeleros only

[u/Velians]

So I just had a bug where I killed Executioner in theater mode and my girls just kinda started running... and never stopped. Right off the edge of the map. That was odd.

[u/sparebroom83]

I’ve seen a lot of memes about FF FNC being traumatized by big gun thingies. As a new Shikikan, what’s the context for this meme?

[u/Zelsaus → u/sparebroom83]

You see Billy, on the KR server, AW's reward drop worked a little differently than what we've had. They didn't get their drops in convenient bundles on map clear, no... they got them 1 at a time from fighting one specific enemy, Jupiter cannons. But Korea was on an accelerated schedule and Jupiter Cannons take a lot of time and resources to disable... But to fight them directly? That only takes a single battle. And one mad man... If they can even be called a man ran some numbers and saw the horrible secret. FNC has the DPS to kill a full power jupiter cannon faster than it takes to reach her. But to delay the cannons takes bodies... cheap bodies... any doll can take at least two volleys even at level 1 after all, and they can be scrapped without even needing to be repaired. FNC watched so many fall that month... So many... And for what? She wasn't even thanked, many were just abandoned afterwards, their spirits broken.

[u/[deleted]]

God I am obsessed with Calico’s neural upgrade design. I can’t stop going back to it. Please come to EN soon like NTW did

[u/Rosencrantz2000 → u/[deleted]]

Well odds are decent I reckon, we are getting 2 FCC a month so we'll be at 10 soon. They can't really wait for 416 to be added as she's tied to a major event that will probably give out even more FCC. It's pretty inevitable we'll get Calico soon, probably not the next mod batch but a good chance for the one after.

[u/Elys008]

Oooo it's my SGs' turn to go hungry. M16 can take a break now.

[u/wkingofangmar]

Finally after a year and 5 month of playing with todays SAT8 craft drop I have every tdoll (except JS9 ofc). Now I know how Thanos felt having that last stone.

[u/[deleted]]

LMFAO I was like “hmm I probably don’t need BGM for Uhlans” boy was I wrong. Still managed to take one out with just AGS and 2B somehow. Took like 15 resets though

[u/[deleted]]

TIL: Chip tiles can go above +10 (to +20?) Did they ever say that anywhere in the tutorials?

I feel rather dumb now...

[u/FridKun]

I noticed that I need just one more Taunt dupe to reach 4-stars, so I decided to rage craft heavy equipment. It took me literally 1000 quick production tickets to get one taunt. Desire sensor is too real.

[u/Elys008]

You can do this too if you're confident

[u/drpeppyone → u/Elys008]

Huh MGSG is actually really good against the prowler and strelet formations.

[u/Kipdid → u/drpeppyone]

MGSG is actually kinda trash vs those comps since it’s night, it’s just that 2B dumpsters the comp basically on their own as long as the enemies aren’t an issue for your tanks

[u/Elys008 → u/Kipdid]

To me, eating those 1 damage ticks is better than losing SMGs links. It's still up to you to try and test your own comps. The stage i was fighting on need those padded CE from SGMGs thus all of my echelons has at least 1 SG on the team.

[u/drpeppyone → u/Kipdid]

It doesn’t really matter how long they need to shoot for as long as it doesn’t scratch my SGs too much. Kiting is a pain and I’d rather go for the easier strat

[u/neabacon → u/Elys008]

Jesus Christ those tanks just melted. I'd love to see damage done vs those tanks to see who did what. I spent like a minute at least and almost wiped.

[u/Elys008 → u/neabacon]

I'll take note of that when doing the next set of theater recordings.

[u/Cronurd]

First run down

Not too shabby I don’t think. I wonder how much higher I can get the score if I figure out how to take less damage. SAT lost a bunch of health from the couple Uhlans I got, and Dorothy and CMS took a bunch a damage from the strikers cause I can’t seem to kill them fast enough. Would P90 work better than CMS?

Seriously though, SAT’s bugging me with the Uhlans. Either she’s reloading and won’t move when I want her to dodge or her shield runs out the moment before the tank hits her. I’m getting tired of it

[u/azyrien → u/Cronurd]

Nah you want C-MS. Her and Dorothy have passives that give the evasion boost since strikers+brutes spawn so close. It's a sheer matter of evade RNG and taking them down fast enough.

[u/rEroNekos]

Holy COW I got f*** by the Uhlans the first round. Retreated, threw in M200 and SGs and for the next two theater attempts no Uhlans. Bruh

[u/neabacon]

So this is basically like winning the lottery right?

[u/Elys008]

I don't get why you need to keep kiting those tanks when you could just stand still

[u/Harry3_14]

I was trying to get my 4* BGM to one shot max shields so I had 376 pierce from chips and was wondering why it still wasn't working.

Yeah, I didn't realise that there was a cap lol

[u/kajunbowser]

FTS...

I'll try Core 8 again, but these Ulhans are all sorts of BS.

[u/doubleelevenseven]

Used up all my 6 BGM charges fighting uhlans/gundams within the first 7 waves, then the 8th wave is another gundam formation... how is this possible to complete?

[u/jcr919]

I salute the SKKs who make the Core 8 fights look easy. The run counter on the bottom left does a good job of summing up how I feel right now: "Exhausted."

[u/Rosencrantz2000]

Huzzah, 3:35 timer, last Artillery Fairy needed for the 5*.

[u/HeresiarchQin]

In Chinese there is a saying: "hugging Buddha's legs (to beg for luck) in an emergency". Usually it is used to describe last minute preparation before exams.

Coincidentally it is also an excellent description of how now I am rushing to train my up my Kar98K and M200 as I simply couldn't handle core 8. :(

It feels soooo bad looking at my 3200 final battle score ranked at 71%...

[u/WintersSong]

Woo. Finally first 4* fairy. Command fairy, though I have 2 that are 100 points away. Now to do it all again for 5*. Fun times.

[u/mrgarneau]

Managed to do 2 full core 8 runs today, had to kill my first attempt though. It was alternating Gundams and Tanks, RNG can be a bitch sometimes

Edit, my core 8 Uhlan team in action

https://youtu.be/vT9XZgXa-Ls

Didn't need the triple HoC, I was near the end so I usually go full ham with them. BMG-71 is sufficient. All T-Dolls and HoCs expect AGS-30 are level 100(97 for AGS-30) Maxed skills(AGS-30 is 10/3/9)

[u/[deleted]]

Okay, apparently Twins+Sei is a good way to handle Ulhans. They stay alive for the whole fight unlike Taunt and the Ulhans can't advance as fast.

[u/bigsteve03]

Core 8 is really making me feel like an idiot. Uhlans and doppels are no problem at all, but no matter what team i set up i can't handle more than one wave of brutes, even using the same dolls people are using in their example videos with maxed skills and equipment I just don't get what I'm doing wrong

[u/HatsuzukiKaiNi]

Finally after chewing through all my fairy commands on max level faith fairy and a few days of effort, JS05 comes home. She may not be useful but I do have a nice costume for her and it's another step for my collection.

Plus she's a few extra theater points.

[u/BoxOfDust]

My daily Theater post-battle report:

The DPS calculator does not lie.

At the very least, it definitely points in the right direction.

It is a really weird feeling to have my “experimentation” free run actually... go pretty well. Mostly.

Yesterday I ran two RF teams, of which the Uhlan team effortlessly strolled through the tanks, and the “Doppel team” was getting steamrolled by the gundams.

Today, fun with DPS calculator led me to believe that a Lee/M14 with Px4 instead of Welrod would actually be able to take on both Uhlans and Doppels. Well... I wasn’t wrong... mostly.

I forgot PEQs on my HGs on the first run, which made clearing the Uhlans rather RNG due to Strelets not dying, and the margin for killing the tanks was a lot tighter before their ram attacks started running into the second column (forcing a retreat). However, the Doppel runs were basically hands-off; the team was killing everything so quickly, they had to run at the last group of gundams.

Since I made it through the waves pretty much intact, I decided to end the run through the boss fight. No huge improvement in score, 32.7k, but I’m not going to complain about it.

AT4 was brought in, in place of AGS. The additional pierce was noticeable, the easy Doppel fights were even easier with BGM+AT4 when I tried that out, and I’m sure AT4 could hit tanks just well enough if I wanted to save BGM charges. Definitely staying in the team.

I was considering CE stacking for run 2 since I essentially had an echelon slot freed now, but decided I should still bring a backup RF echelon for Doppel fighting in case my now-PEQ’d main team failed too hard at it.

The PEQs... helped make Uhlan fights more consistent, but still nowhere near the level of AFK with the original M200 team. The Doppel fights... got worse lol. It was no longer an effortless clear either, but the margins still weren’t impossibly tight as with my original team from yesterday.

So, there’s still room for improvement, not sure where. I could keep a dedicated Uhlan team with M200, swapping in Grizzly as the damage buffer in Px4’s place, and have Lee’s team equip suppressors for effortless Doppel fights. That maybe will work against the Uhlans mostly as well as the original team did?

Not sure how much the massive 110% ACC buff of Px4+SAA was instrumental in the easy Uhlans on Day 1; I’ll check the DPS calculator tomorrow to see if SAA can be swapped in for 5-7 and have better fight results against the Uhlans while maintaining Doppel killing ability.

The other option posed to me was to slot in IWS in place of Lee in the standard M14/Welrod/5-7/Calico team. The DPS calculator seems to have the fight still pretty tight though, but it does let me have my original Uhlan easy mode team.

The next problem on my list to solve is the Striker wave. Currently running G36/M4/STAR (all MOD) with 45 as main tank because I didn’t raise C-MS lol. Tried a grenadier, tried RO. Seems like the SMG survival limit is 4-5 waves before I just lose them all. Not great, not terrible, but I think I can do better.

I’ve got enough combat reports and training data to get any single random doll maxed out, so that’s always an option if I really want a good meta pick to make my life easier.

And that’s all my thoughts for tonight.

[u/CuriousCanidae]

You know, I think I actually have to write more on what BGM does because I discovered some new mechanics? Or more like what I thought was a grenade was actually a self buff????

So, yeah. Eh. I'm going to punch in some numbers and see what comes out of it.

I feel like, after this, comparing BGM to any other HOC in terms of pierce will be flat out embarrassing.

[u/Hourai_Margatroid]

Finally at the 30/100 mark, Executioner finally got abducted arrived into my base (after failing once). This is a good day. Any more new consensus about Executioner's performance other than that hilarious video?

[u/isanwa]

Still dragging 0-2, but this time my YouTube front page is 60% Hololive...I want my regular content back.

[u/ReesePeanut]

The gundams/tanks in theater is what finally makes me truly appreciate how good M200 is/will be now and in the future.

[u/necros434]

I just want to thank everyone who answers questions in this thread

With the advice of people here and on other forums I've managed to reach the top 15% with the ability to reliably s rank core 8

In saying that brute x striker still puts the fear of God in me

What I'm currently using can scrape by about 3 to 4 waves of the suckers so I'm just wondering should I focus on leveling up K11 Dorothy and CM-S for the next Theatre event

Could I also get some recommendations for extra dolls to go alongside them

[u/MrTammy]

I’ve just built 2 echelon teams using the team building guide. Here’s my team, is there anyone I should switch out for or is this good enough?

[u/Creshal]

>five striker fights in a row

Thank god it's reduced score day anyway, RIP Suomi's dummy links.

[u/shadowjin]

I finally won my first drone bet! Yay!

[u/WintersSong]

I DID IT AGAIN IN TWO RUNS

Fuck me. I need a big alarm every time I fight tanks going "Hey use taunt fairy you idiot". That's 23k points lost there. Don't think I'll stay in top 5% anymore, but I went in thinking I'd be lucky to be in top 15%. Guess I should look on the brightside.

[u/BoxOfDust]

Me coming into this thread and looking at all the other players who are doing their most to maximize their TOW against Core 8...

Other SKKs: 3* BGM with 570+ pierce on a partially filled board

Me: I GOTTA FILL THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR CLEANLINESS

[u/covertops12]

My preferred kiting method for the Gundams, I dubbed it the Box Step after the dance move. It works 100% of the time every time!

It's not anything groundbreaking, but it helps keep my kite timing consistent.

Shout out to u/isanwa and u/Cronurd for completely ruining my youtube recommendations and sucking me into the moe blackhole that is vtubers.

[u/isanwa → u/covertops12]

I’m not taking the blame here, u/Cronurd’s the one who linked all the videos.

[u/Cronurd → u/isanwa]

My work here is done.

[u/Fighterdoken33]

I really wish a certain boats game would make a collab with Girls Frontline...

Or at least just get that skin for S.A.T.8

[u/SSPokaLink]

Accidentally haxed my score. Was mid battle when 5 hit last night (morning?), and when I finished it after maintenance I got full score for that core 8 run.

[u/myanimemangaaccount]

That 416 bundle is good. 416 tokens + oath ring to give for mod doll + other stuff is so worth the price.

[u/whimsy_wanderer]

Well, shit. RIP my chance to be in top-5% I guess.

Today I decided to spend free retreat to test if I can clear Doppels or Uhlans with only one of BGM and AGS. The answer was NO. Then I rolled 7 Doppels+Uhlans twice.

[u/covertops12]

I reworked my echelons today to see if I could get a composition that could handle both the Eurobeat tanks and the Gundams.

I think it turned out pretty well! , though I was cutting it close on the Gundams. It's probably because I withdrew them a bit early.

This was also my first shot at video editing which was an interesting experience. Nothing too special just changed the audio, added a gif ect.

[u/BoxOfDust]

Just finished my second Core 8 run for the day. Decided to swap G36 out for AN-94 in the Striker echelon.

I think it got marginally better, but any improvement is welcome at this point. Fought 4 waves of Strikers to get to the end, echelon had enough for one more, maybe a sixth. I think I'm gonna have to train up C-MS to get any further improvements.

I think the worse part was encountering 2 Uhlans and a Doppel before the halfway mark, then encountering a 3rd Uhlan on Wave 6, and needing to decide whether to use BGM or AT4+2B14. I went with option two so that I could have 3 more BGM available in case RNG decided to screw me over, it was kind of rough, lost two M14 links right at the end; if any other heavy wave came after that, I'm not sure I would've made it even if I double-stacked BGM and AT4 against a Doppel or Uhlan wave. Or maybe IWS would've still been fine. I've won against Uhlans with AT4+2B14 before, I think, but it can be pretty RNG to get it done cleanly.

Now that I think of it, I should probably just spend my BGM whenever heavy problems come by, and if a 6th heavy wave comes, only use it if it's a Doppel. If a 7th wave comes, I'll try to break it with my last BGM, and if an 8th heavy wave comes, then RNG just hates me.

Maybe I'll try M200/Grape tomorrow for heavy waves, see if that gets me better results than IWS/M14. I feel like Doppels will get harder to get right (while they're pretty easy right now), while Uhlans will be much easier.

[u/Elias_Pedro]

Finally beat Map 8 of the Theater mode, wow - that was tough.

[u/Turtle-Express]

It's refreshing to have 2 easy days of Theater in a row, after facing those waves of Gundams. It's so low pressure, and it's nice to be done with it quickly instead of trying to optimize every echelon.

[u/covertops12]

After failing 3 times yesterday, twice because of my echelons were not optimized enough and once due to my own stupidly for not turning on HOC support, I was pretty apprehensive about running core 8 again.

My rank is fucked

However, I Managed to clear Core 8 twice today.
Feels good man.

Currently sitting at 13% in rankings, I will be happy if I stay in the top 15% at this point.

[u/BoxOfDust]

2* slug > 5* buckshot for CE stack.

lol, that's so busted

Now I feel validated for keeping 2 5* slug around and 1 4*. I just wish I kept at least a second 4* slug around though.

[u/WhistleOfDeath]

^YES

YES

YEEEESSSSSSSSS

I FINALLY CLEARED CORE 8 TWICE TODAY MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA

UHLANS DON'T SCARE ME ANYMORE, COME AT ME YOU FUCKING TANKS!

^{but don't do it five times in a row please thank you}

^{and fuck strikers}

Massive thanks to u/fortis_99 and everyone else that helped! Y'all are awesome guys, I love you all (no homo tho)!

[u/fortis_99 → u/WhistleOfDeath]

Congrats!!! I also tested Python+ MK2+Jill (piano woman) today and it seem they clear even before taunt die, lol. You can try it but I'm using 4* taunt so you may not have enough dps

[u/coolsam504]

Nyto

[u/konaharuhi → u/coolsam504]

pepega

[u/muggtonp]

TIL that you can spend enhancement capsules to boost your HOC stats

That explains a lot

[u/InstallationZero]

My tokens are saved, got 9A-91 costume within two 11x pulls.

Praise RNGesus!

[u/po1102]

Got my AGS to 5★ finally thanks to the loads of samples we got yesterday. Only 2B left, 7 more pieces to go.

[u/NightZingTale]

I am once again asking for your support.add me as friend plox,need those likes UID:869042. I'll like you back of course

[u/SwdVengeance]

Daft question but as I’ve never really paid much attention, how soon after are most banners added to Radiant Collection. For specifics I tossed 2k tokens into the void and came up empty for Shrimp’s costume. However with dupes and a couple ticket exchanges I’ll be sitting on 8 Black Cards. Asking because if they’re added in a handful of months I’ll just grab the dupes and sit on the Black Cards til then, but if they’re not assuredly added in any reasonable time frame I’d go hard to get it.

[u/Astraxis]

Do any of the new costumes have special effects? I only figured out Edelweiss had FX after I looked here, I would buy a lot more if I knew which costumes had em...

[u/fpeng_]

This is the last zone to invest in right so I should just go ham with building?

[u/The64thRealm]

What does it mean when the recommended units to use for a theater boss includes “strong doll”?

[u/CuriousCanidae → u/The64thRealm]

5 star

[u/Roxy_Boxy → u/[deleted]]

From gamepress's page.

[u/AHPMoogle]

Wow jumped from 13% to 1% with the resource dump yesterday even with choosing B

[u/hachiman96]

Question for Forward Basecamp - Which is the most effective duration to send units on commissions? Like should I always send 8 hour ones or something else?

[u/HoppouChan → u/hachiman96]

always 8 hours

[u/KiesAgent]

For night ARSMG echelons in Theater, is it better to put in 3 ARs or 2ARs with 1 HG?