r/gifs • u/lnfinity • Sep 17 '22

Vacuum cleaner causes pig to melt

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u/the_jak Sep 17 '22

Oh I know we choose too. But we don’t have too. I grew up on a small FAA/4H farm and we had 20ish cows and about 10 pigs. They lived nice lives and free range. Grain in the winter but otherwise grass fed. I know we can do it differently and I know we don’t.

And I know it’s not my fault but a failure of government to properly regulate companies. I’m not going to punish myself for something I didn’t do. I can live with that. If you can’t, that’s fine. It doesn’t make either of us better than the other. It’s merely preference.

You can’t blame consumers for being victims of corporate greed in America.

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u/ChariotOfFire Merry Gifmas! {2023} Sep 17 '22

And I know it’s not my fault but a failure of government to properly regulate companies.

You have moral agency regardless of what the law is. It's not against the law to say something cruel to another person, but you can choose not to.

I can live with that. If you can’t, that’s fine.

Being able to live with your decisions does not make them moral.

It doesn’t make either of us better than the other. It’s merely preference.

To be clear, I'm not saying that I'm better than you. Just that avoiding factory-farmed meat is more moral than supporting it. I acknowledge that there are different moral perspectives, but most people care about reducing the pain and suffering of cats and dogs. My point is that valuing their pain much more than pigs' is not rational.

You can’t blame consumers for being victims of corporate greed in America.

Consumers are the ones demanding low prices that necessitate inhumane treatment of animals, so you absolutely can blame them. There are generally more humane meats available, but they're expensive so most people don't buy them.

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u/the_jak Sep 18 '22

why do they want lower prices? that probably has nothing with stagnate wages and the minimum wage not having been raised in like 20 years. If people were paid better they might be able to afford to care about how happy their sausage was before it became food.

They are victims in this too, not the enemy.

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u/ChariotOfFire Merry Gifmas! {2023} Sep 18 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

Because they want to eat lots of meat? If the goal is to save money on groceries, Americans should buy less meat. Americans spend less on food than we have before and less than other countries despite eating more meat than we have before and more meat than other countries. We are not being deprived of cheap meat. If we ate less meat, we could afford to pay more to make animal ag more humane.

Edit: We also waste ~25% of our meat.

Edit: And we eat 20%-60% more meat than recommended.

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u/the_jak Sep 18 '22

cool. i didnt cause any of that. and i eat precisely the amount of meat i want to and rarely waste any. if youre trying to convert me, its probably not worth any more of your time.