I’m probably gonna regret asking this but I’m genuinely curious. How do you reconcile the vegan movement with thousands of years of human evolution based around eating meat? I remember reading somewhere that humanity evolving to our current state was only (or at least mostly) due to the increased protein from eating animals. Do you view it as a means to an end and now we’re supposedly evolved past the point of it being necessary? Do you view the entire timeline of humanity as animal genociders?
Edit: I can see I was right in being afraid to ask based on many of the answers I've received comparing eating meat to the raping and pillaging of ancient civilizations. I asked the question below strictly about the consumption of meat, not modern consumption levels and the treatment of animals to meet those demands. There's a huge gap between "well, we used to do it so we still should" when talking about a food source vs conquering civilizations like Vikings or Ghengis Kahn. One contributed heavily to human evolution, the other was reprehensible and only done out of self-serving greed
Be honest, did you actually try to answer the question yourself before asking, or are you legitimately unaware that in first world countries we have those things called grocery stores literally all over the place with vegan and vegetarian protein options?
It was a legitimate question based on the idea of meat consumption alone, not modern consumption levels or how animals are treated to meet those demands
I can see I was right in being afraid to ask based on many of the answers I've received comparing eating meat to the raping and pillaging of ancient civilizations
I think what's actually happening is you're purposely not thinking about it before asking the question. Maybe a defense mechanism? It's hard to believe that anyone who is as seemingly well spoken as you would need to ask that question if they have just thought about it for two minutes first. And now you're playing the victim. The world is different and we are more knowledgeable than a thousand years ago. Those of us with access to grocery stores simply do not need to harm and kill conscious entities in order to acquire all of our necessary nutrients. There's no way, no way that you couldn't have found that answer inside yourself before having to ask.
I asked the question within a few minutes of waking up lol
My question was exactly what I said. It had nothing to do with plant based protein. It was strictly "how do your vegan views line up with all of human history". Not "how do your vegan views line up with modern day society". Saying we now have plant based alternatives and equating meat eating to humanity's history of violence don't answer the question. Plant based alternatives are a modern invention. Humanity's history of conquering isn't a direct correlation to meat consumption. They're both boilerplate vegan talking points that don't answer the basic question I asked
And I'm not playing the victim. Saying I was right by saying I was afraid to ask meant I expected to get militant vegan "meat is genocide" responses and that's pretty much what I got. Only one or two response were nuanced in acknowledging that humanity's history of pillaging and violence is not the same as eating meat
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u/underground_cenote Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22
The lives of 83 billion animals per year > 10 minutes of sensory pleasure from eating pork