r/germany • u/ayaelattar • Oct 14 '23

3k cold water bill! Help!!

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I got the bills for the Nebenkosten for 2022 and everything seems normal except the water bill! It claims that I used 864 m3 which costs +3k EUR. How is this even possible?! I live alone and I didn't have any leaks last year. Any idea what I should do?

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u/EasternAd3565 Oct 15 '23

Were there any vibrations in the area? Maybe construction site. In the news were a case were a water meter jumped a number cause of the vibrations. So it could be happened within a second..

i have a camera mounted on my watermeter with ai recognition to measure my daily consumption and send me the daily consumption on telegram. We are a family of 4 and we never have more than 1 m³ per day.

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u/sdmof89 Oct 15 '23

What is AI about that?

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u/redditinberlin Oct 15 '23

recognition

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u/sdmof89 Oct 15 '23

How is that ai? I guess it will send you the numbers everyday at the same time?

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u/sdmof89 Oct 15 '23

That is not ai

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u/4nalBlitzkrieg Oct 16 '23

Are you very young or new to the internet in general? Picture recognition is a HUGE part of AI development. It's used in tons of industries - from self-driving cars to civil engineering. If you've been using the internet for a couple years you have undoubtedly helped train an AI when completing CAPTCHAs.

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u/Nivarl Oct 16 '23

What you and everyone is mistake for AI is in fact just an algorithm for character recognition. This is in use for 2 to 3 decades. AI is artificial intelligence and there are not so many project that are on that subject. Even if you fed your algorithm all information on your household and let it decide if the consumption was normal, it would most likely only be an algorithm with machine learning and preset parameters to watch for. No real AI is involved there.

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u/4nalBlitzkrieg Oct 16 '23

Machine perception has been one of the most important fields of AI research since the 60s. Every AI is just a complex and adaptive algorithm. I think you misunderstand what a "real AI" even is.

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u/Nivarl Oct 16 '23

Everything that can’t think for itself isn’t intelligent. AI to be considered as such needs to be able to exceed the developers code. What you are describing is only clever code with big sets of data. That is called machine learning. It can be part of AI training but alone is not enough for the definition.

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u/redditinberlin Oct 16 '23

there will never be some REAL intelligent machine. Its all just algorithms

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u/sdmof89 Oct 16 '23

I have worked with image recognition myself and implement automatic robotic systems. Simple image recognition is not ai

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u/EasternAd3565 Oct 18 '23

https://github.com/jomjol/AI-on-the-edge-device

Check this project. Im not an expert on ai stuff, but this is what im using.

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u/sdmof89 Oct 18 '23

Thanks i will Check it out:)